i just got off the phone with golden eagle in cali and finally after a week got a price.
$1441.00 plus c.o.d shipping. not too bad!

package includes block cleaning, bore 89mm over, hone, sleeved, arias low compression oversized pistons with rings and pins.

what do you guys think? that will make the h22a screeeem

 

Cool. What'll the displacement be with the overbore? 2.4L ? You're gonna need 2 bottles in the back of that thing! What shot you planning on running? 150? You going NX wetshot?

Tell me tell me!

 

Low compression pistons are for turbo engines only. If you are using nitrous you need high compression pistons. And with all the bottom end work you might as well get rods while your down there and balance the crank. You should should also consider a some head work as well to compliment your block.

 

He was saying he's building it for turbo but turbo will come a little down the line (I think?).

Yeah, get rods, you might as well while you're in there. I didn't catch that at first.

Why would you need high compression pistons for NO2? Won't the added fuel and NO2 create a very volatile mix at real high compression? More prone to detonation?

let me know your thoughts, I'm interested.

 

 

Sounds about right.

I sent pistons to 'em and it was $995. BTW, shipping from IL was $45 for each way with $3000 insurance (to replace w/sleeves).

I kept the stock bore so I can use the stock head gaskets and off the shelf pistons/rings.

Monday they will have had the block two weeks. I'll post how long it takes 'em.

 

to answer some questions:

yes i know i need rods, but didn't know if i would have to shorten or lengthen them to go with the oversized pistons?or shelf rods?

i'm not touching the crank, except maybe getting it knifedged, def not lightening it

i'm going turbo in 2004 and i'm getting low comp now so the block will be done, then i'll work on the head in 2004 when i get more $. skunk2 and JUN are coming out with head packages for the h22 soon and JG engine dynamics has one available now

yeah i'm going 150 shot for now until turbo is in then i'll run dual 50/100 or whatever works best then

NOMAD: i'm running NX 75 shot now

this project IS going through
credit cards are nice aren't they?

 

I believe you'd use shelf rods. It's the strength that is most important, as well as the weight savings. But even though your piston heads are bigger the wristpins will be placed correctly. You'd only want to change rod height to really start blueprinting out your engine. When you change the length of rod EVERYTHING changes. Just get aftermarket ones. They should know the right size.
Knifedging the crank is lightening it. Correct me if i'm wrong. This means taking off material from the crank. You may want to skip that for structural integrity purposes and just get it balanced up to a high RPM. That way with your headwork you'll rev happily past the redline...

 

actually, if i wanted to shorten or lenghten the stroke then i would need to change the rods from "off the shelf" ones, but that also requires modding the crank
i'm just going to get eagle rods and i'm not touching the crank
too much $$$

i talked to a shop right down the street from my house and they just did 97 h22. same thing that golden eagle was doing except they will also port and polish the head for 1700, and no shipping

 

That price sounds even better. Is that everything included? Labor too?

 

that includes labor for the machining
i drop off bare block and i get back bare block sleeved, decked, honed, bored and arias pistons rings and pins. i have disasemble and then reassemble the whole friggin thing, lots of work
i've never assembled a awhole engine before, this is gonna be crazy

 

Me either. Good luck with it.

Who makes the sleeves that shops trying to sell you?

 

money money money, good luck with all the work. It should be pretty quick after all that

 

i don't know who makes them, should i ask? does it matter?
i really don't know what questions to ask them

 

Get the name and research the brand.

May have to wander over here to the forced induction forum...

Good research info

 

i've been hagling the machine shop and check this out
no building the block on my part

i give him the bare block and crank, new pistons and rods
he gives it back assembled with new arp bolts, hot tanked, sleeved with universal sleeves that he gets and he mills and hones and decks the block too, and he assembles the whole friggin thing ready to go
1200.00
that is a deal if i've ever heard one

he also said the little HP i'd get out of boring and buying expensive oversized pistons, the money would be better spent elsewhere
but he has no problem charging me extra to do it, he just says his 28 years of building tell him boring aluminum blocks is a waste of money???? sounds weird to me