Jabuhanna

My name is Jake. I Finally registered as a member, woohoo. I have been visiting this forum daily for the last 2 months. You guys are just great. I would like to share with you some pictures of my CL. and I have some questions that i couldn't really find definate answers to them.

The link to my ride is : http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2964331

Now i really want make some major modfications to the Engine, but i read so many discussions here about engines that confused that hell out of me. What is the best engine to swap? h22a4? what kind of turbo goes with it for the best results? what additional parts do i need to do the swap?
I also want to put a short shifter but i couldn't find any for a CL, but i have seen pictures here of CL's with short shifters. Any ideas?

Also there are some items on eBay that i though maybe its a good idea with you guys before i go ahead and buy them :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...238561338&rd=1

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...=STRK:MEWA:VRI

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA:IT&ih=001

and Finally:

http://www.prostreetonline.com/pnsku/v10-100.asp#

I would really appreciate any help.

you guys ROCK

thanks

spencer_homer

as far as the short shifter goes, the prelude shifter works as one, it is a lot short, but its not gonna actually reduce the throw, just the shift nob length

Jabuhanna

oh,, is there any way to reduce the throw?

spencer_homer

oh i looked at what your gonna buy. dont buy any of it, non of that stuff works. They dont make any ecu mods for our cars.

Jabuhanna

how about the Venom?

klepto

everything was looking good until I clicked on those ebay links

Jabuhanna

Well, i'm not very experienced with these things, thats why i wanted to consult with you guys. Now i understand that those things on eBay are crap, but how about the Venom?

spencer_homer

ive never heard of it working? anyone else? you could try it but its a gamble im pretty sure

klepto

if you do a search for "venom" in the thread titles theres over 70 threads about it

Jabuhanna

Loool,, speaking of gambling, i just lost $1400 at the casion, so might as well make it $1800
and buy it. jK

DFoster0

i think the cat delete will work but all the other stuff is crap

GianJ30a

buy a vafc instead of the venom

JStoops

PSPEC short shifter is good stuff, i have one. makes the throws shorter for sure.

i see in your cardomain page you have headers and an intake. aside from a VFAC and an upgraded cam and an exhaust, thats about it for our engine.

if you do the H22 swap.... search first.... a billion threads on it

Jabuhanna

Thanks man,, I already have an exhaust .
I'm not sure what a VFAC is.
I'm considering the H22a4 swap seriously, I'm just waiting to get done with finals at school and start working on it.

XxAtTheGatesxX

Those rims look cleeeaan.

JStoops

VFAC basically plugs in and lets you adjust when vtec kicks in, also can tune a/f but for our tiny SOHC engine, it's not a great bang for buck imho.

i've been considering the h22 swap as well if my wrx falls through

DaInFaMMuS1

Car looks pretty good, nice and clean. As everyone else said, dont buy any of that ebay crap, none of it works. I'd say don't buy any more performance parts till u can get your swap, cuz it'll be a waste of money if you do. Well anything besides exhaust. VAFC = Vtec, Air and Fuel Controller. It will help with your H22 way more than ur F22.

AznX TL

thats because he spelled it wrong its apexi vafc, you might as well get the vafc neo though.

DaInFaMMuS1

The neo seems to be overkill to me lol. Plus i think the VAFC II looks better. And its cheaper. To each their own though.

AznX TL

for the $30 extra, the additional features are well worth the money.

DaInFaMMuS1

When i was shopping for them, the neo was 300 and the vafc2 was 170. I guess you're talking about retail?

AznX TL

oh haha, i was going off ebay prices, vafc2 is about 210-220ish and neo is about 250ish

DaInFaMMuS1

lol oh ok. with the ebay ones you also gotta factor in shipping, i just went on honda tech and looked on there, they have alot of good parts for cheap on there.

DaInFaMMuS1

Also, the forbidden motorsports short shifter for a 94-97 accord will fit in the CL. That and the PSPEC shortshifter.

Jabuhanna

which one is better?? any experience?

Dicorp

hmm. my preludes shifter is has a much shorter throw than the CL did...and its shorter in length.


1) VAFC is a waste of money. I have one in my lude. I tried playing with it, it made the car slugish and vtec was weak. the menu is unintuitive. i'd say it's a gimmick more than anything...looks nice on your dash.

2) Forget swapping the h22a4. It's the USDM 5th gen prelude motor. Due to immobilizers in all 5th gen ludes, you'll need to get a new key programmed at the dealer. Plus the engine itself is expesnsive since its coming out of ludes sold in the US. go for a JDM H22a, from a reputeable seller.

CLpwner

The H22a1 and the H22a are the USDM and JDM, respectively, H22's that are usually swapped in

97BlackAckCL

iTrader: (6)

Those perf chips and test pipe are garbage, please do not buy that junk for your car

DaInFaMMuS1

supposedly the forbidden motorsports one is the best on the market because it has 3 adjustable settings and you can abuse it pretty badly, but then again there are people who swear by their PSPEC shifter. I guess its about personal preference. I like the choice of 3 settings so i'd go w/forbidden if i ever got 1

DaInFaMMuS1

Which version VAFC do you have? I know people who have used it and say that it was effective. Then again they've been dealing w/them for years and know how to tune them to their liking.

97BlackAckCL

iTrader: (6)

vafc's are meant to be used with a tune, and to accent engine mods, what do you have to the lude engine?