ma777

I don't have any other problems with the car. I can not get it over 5k. Its like the rev limiter kicks in. I havent thrown any engine codes so i dont know where to start.
What could be possible problems.

ma777

97 CL 2.2 f22b1 5 speed

P0401

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vtec solenoid. mine did throw a code though but that is exactly what mine would do when my solenoid was unhooked

davzilla

check your engine oil

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thats right, I forgot about that. If the oil isn't just about perfect it will stop the vtec solenoid from kicking in and cause the same thing to happen

97BlackAckCL

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hybridnrg

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hmm weird no codes. you mean no check engine light or no codes? just want to make sure

i had a similar problem. people said vtec solenoid for mine, but the code came up transmission solenoid. it was not either of those, but found out it was the crank shaft sensor. I would have a professional check it out to make sure.

here is a video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-ckSyoy9x8

dont read the comments, they are all idiots.

asianspec

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97BlackAckCL

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wow, the stupid is strong with those comments

rp_guy

well actually there is a neutral rev limiter for certain cars. my dad's 02 intrigue stops the revs at 5000 in neutral or park (automatic of course), malibu stops at 5500 or so, etc


but that's not your problem lol

ma777

The check engine light doesn't come on. I havent checked for codes while the light was off. I thought vtec kicked in at 4500? Im pretty sure i feel the vtec kick in. Im thinking its a cam shaft sensor.

ma777

actually i take that back. my car WILL redline in nuetral

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the vtec doesn't kick in unless its under a load, so I would still check the oil because if its a little low it will stop the vtec from kicking in and cause the same problem you are having. I just have never seen one not throw a code but still i would check it

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Mine would go to 5k and not go any further when my vtec wasn't kicking in

on1wheel01

wow those comments are just .........

on1wheel01

Guys it may be a waste of time but plz back me up on that youtube thread. Go to it and see

davzilla

did you check your oil?

ma777

yea i checked my oil. It was a little low, so i put some in. Didn't make a difference. I have a coolant leak Ill have fixed tomarrow. Once thats done ill unplug my vtec solenoid and see what happens.

ma777

When i bought the car the guy told me he and his friend put a new head on the enigne. So, im kinda worried about what the guy did to the car before i bought it.

off subject but where do u guys get ur valve covers? A custom one makes it look so much better than stock. I dont see any on ebay. Are they not made for f22b1s?

97BlackAckCL

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They're not made, you have to paint your own

on1wheel01

dont paint it . take it off and powder coat it looks way better.

ma777

Alright i unplugged the vtec solenoid and it does the exact same thing with it plugged in.


http://www.stronghonda.co.nz/images/vtec%20engine.gif

This is the kind I'm talking about. Is that just the stock one that comes on that engine? Did he just paint it?

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that is a factory cover but for DOHC instead of SOHC like the Cl has. Totally different engine. If its doing the same thing with the vtec solenoid unplugged thats telling me the solenoid isn't kicking in so thats your problem. If you unhooked it and still get no CEL then your CEL may be burnt out

on1wheel01

Yea that's just painted and looks like poo. Powder coat it won't fade and such.

ma777

So the only option I have Is powder coating? My cel comes on with it disconnected. Ill take of my solenoid and take a look at it.

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ok well if the CEL comes on with it disconnected but doesn't when its doing it before it may not be the solenoid like it was with mine. I just don't know what else would cause it to do like this except the vtec not kicking in. The screen may be clogged up on the solenoid but I would think that would cause the cel also. Sorry I may be of no help on this one because I can only speak of the experience I had with the vtec solenoid

ma777

Im sure you know more than I do so ill take suggestions.

on1wheel01

U could paint it u don't have to powder coat it. Pc is just a better option. I have a spare 3.0 motor in my garage I may pc it and put on my car. Easy since I do coating myself.

ma777

alright well ive just been researching about why vtecs wont kick in. My spark plug caps always pop out a little bit. So that would effect my oil pressure. Well i took of my VC and there are 2 different types of screws on it. He strpped out the back 3 and put bigger bolts on it. One in the front is stripped out. So i guess im just going to buy the same size bolt he put on back and put them in the front to. Could that be my problem?

ma777

I don't have an oil pressure switch. Its just a bolt. I'm guessing that's why it isn't working. lol

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I am not sure but I think I read somewhere JDM engines didn't have the pressure switch. I don't think they even have a place for it though so if you have a bolt there chances are someone has removed it and placed the bolt in the hole. Has your car always done this or did it just start? I didn't know it always had this problem, I thought it was a new problem you were having. Do you even have the wires for the switch?

ma777

Ive always had this problem. I don't have a connector for it. The guy i bought it off said he changed the head on it. I don't know if its suppose to be there or not. Every other vtec solenoid i looked at has it. Shouldn't i be throwing a code though? I'm thinking he might have cut the wires off and bypassed the check somehow?. I need to find someone here running the stock engine and see if they have one.

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I have a 3.0 but even the 2.x I have seen had them. The 2.x is allot easier to get to than the 3.0 because on the 3.0 its right above the oil filter and its near the top of the engine on the 2.x engines. I have read a way to by pass the switch but not sure how it works. Yes I would think it should throw a code if the vtec wasn't kicking in and thats why I said before I am not sure I will be able to help you with your problem

ma777

well i just struck gold. I found a guy craigslisting an f22b1. I got a used head, valve cover, vtec solenoid,(the pressure switch i need),intake manifold, throttle body, egr, injectors, pretty much everything. All for 30 bucks lol. If somebody needs some cheap parts PM me.

Looks like i have some work to do after school tomarrow.

asianspec

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sounds too good to be true.

DaInFaMMuS1

, make sure everything is functioning properly and the head isn't warped or something before you install it. If everything checks out, congrats on a great buy!

asianspec

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make sure its not stolen either.

ma777

I'm not gunna put the head on just keep everything as spare parts. A guy at the acura dealer told me to put a honda oil filter on it because he has seen it make the vtec not kick in. Guess ill put on a honda one in another 1000 miles.

DaInFaMMuS1

Honda filter not make vtec kick in? That sounds like a load of BS to me to be honest w/u, Honda filters aren't even the best quality filters.

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yeah that sounds like something a Honda dealership would say to sell a filter, sure as heck has nothing to do with the vtec not kicking in though. I have heard the dealership say some stupid stuff to people they think didn't know anything but that ranks up there with the best ones I have ever heard especially when its less than a 10 dollar part