acura_honda_30cl

go in our cl?

Anhedonia

yes, although its a complicated swap because the s2k is mounted inline as opposed to transversly.. the s2k engine is actually an f series..

Anhedonia

oh and its an f20c/f22c

acura_honda_30cl

i know...but i was just wondering how hard is it to mount and what kind of diff needed?

Anhedonia

well correct me if im wrong, but f engine = bolt up to our f tranny, i think the mounts are going to be thebiggest pain in the ass

Eband27

hmm, .... the s2000 is a rear wheel drive car with an engine that runs along the car. So the tranny is situated after the engine... I really dont know if ur cl's transaxle would bolt right up to the s2000 engine if u would put it horizontally.

DaInFaMMuS1

The F20c/F22c is not like the regular F-series motors, you'd have to get an adapter plate to mate it to the stock CL 5speed. Why the hell you'd wanna do that, idk, it comes with a 6speed. Also you'd have to cut your firewall to fit the tranny since its not transversly mounted. You'd also have to get custom engine mounts and whatnot. All in all it's doable, just not as easy as a regular honda swap, and pretty expensive i'd think.

AznX TL

its a F engine, but the specs are no where close to F-series, its pretty close to K-series though.

Anhedonia

yeah i know its higher compression etc.. 120 hp/liter with shitty tq i didnt know about the adapter plate, learn something new every day

davzilla

you can't hook it up to the stock tranny even with an adapter. the S2K motor spins the opposite direction (aka forward, lol) You might be able to get it to adapt to a K tranny though, but who knows, this is pretty much uncharted territory.

or you make it rear wheel drive, but there's already a thread about that. lol.

Dicorp

The S2k engine shares little to nothing in common with the F22/f23 found in CLs and late 90s accord.

It's timing chain driven and has direct ignition like the K.

DaInFaMMuS1

I completely forgot about that. Good point.

I believe there are people who have transversly mounted the F22c to an rsx tranny in FWD drag cars, i coulda sworn i saw it on h-t before, i gotta go find it.

acura_honda_30cl

yea i know its gonna be expensive...cuz i found a some guy on craigslist selling a s2k motor for 3grand

spencer_homer

i think ive seen this as well

Josh99CL

I guess if you want to be different and spend 1.5-2x+ the price of the car in a swap :/

suremang

u could just buy a used ap1 with the money u would spend attempting to fit the power and drivetrain into our cars.

97BlackAckCL

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Berksallday

I thinks it's cool to be creative and unique with swaps, but this sounds like it would a very expensive project. I'd try look into a diff direction.

incredulous1

oh how i wish i was wealthy. haha

davzilla

i wouldn't be suprised, it sounds plausible. i forgot about the stuff dicorp mentioned.

HULK22

yes it will i thought about doing it but the amount of fab work involve and the money it would cost to do it!{lets just say you could buy a sup up supra or just buy s2000 and turbo it]
but hey its all about being different

but any real power setup will cost money and will spend more money to keep it running and replacing broken parts
good luck on what ever you do

732xghost

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i think its very dooable actually. it bolts up to a K trans. ive seen the swap done in a civic on HT. but id much rather do a K24 swap. F20/22C's make dick for TQ.

732xghost

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dude its in a thread i made. search F-series swaps in the Honda/Acura section in the appearence and cosmetics section.

starboy2nv

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Funny thing that I'm seeing this thread... My shop asked me if I wanted to dp this same swap... I'd do it if someone wanna take this motor off my hands and get it installed at my shop...

732xghost

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damn my friend just bought an H23A VTEC for his prelude and already dropped it off at our local shop. Shit man that sucks.

incredulous1

perfect time for an engine theft. gogogogo

Anhedonia

hmm.... im not that far from you, what we talking price wise?

DaInFaMMuS1

I thought H swaps were ''played out'' ?

Anhedonia

oh hush.

I realized today on my 160 mile drive that I wanted speed and an NA build. if its available and convienient.. then why not?

DaInFaMMuS1

hey i'm just pointing out what YOU said, I just find it ironic that you're actually considering the same thing u were just bashing. maybe it'll make due till u can actually bring ur n22diesel swap to fruition lol.

DaInFaMMuS1

btw speed + N/A build = prepare to spend a good amount of money.

Anhedonia

yes, im aware, im not looking for anything more then a 250 whp build. doesnt seem too outrageous on an H. i mean.. 150 whp is just so.... lame. lol having to downshift to 3rd or 4th.. then needing a half mile to pass someone was just so upsetting.

and your right, I did bash it. one day I will pull off that n22 swap though! just gotta find one. lol

incredulous1

doesnt h22 = around 170 or so WHP?

so with bolt ons you're looking at around maybe a 20whp increase?

Anhedonia

not sure..

• 190 PS (187 hp/140 kW) @ 6,800 rpm & 152 ft·lbf (206 N·m) @ 5,500 rpm (BB4 Prelude VTEC, CD6 Accord);
• 200 PS (197 hp/147 kW) @ 7,000 rpm & 156 ft·lbf (212 N·m) @ 5,250 rpm (BB1/4/6 Prelude SiR's);
• 200 PS (197 hp/147 kW) @ 6,800 rpm & 161 ft·lbf (218 N·m) @ 5,500 rpm;
• 220 PS (217 hp/162 kW) @ 7,200 rpm & 163 ft·lbf (221 N·m) @ 6,500 rpm (Accord Euro-R, 92+ Prelude Type-S & 97+ Prelude SiR SpecS);
• H22A1 190 PS (187 hp/140 kW) @ 6,800 rpm & 158 ft·lbf (214 N·m) @ 5,500 rpm ('92-'96 USDM Prelude VTEC)

DaInFaMMuS1

with an average h22 with the proper bolt ons and a tune, 170hp isn't hard to reach. i've seen a few guys on h-t w/ I/h/e and a vafc or neptune tune make 170 whp.

97BlackAckCL

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I'll believe it when I see it

incredulous1

oh. then i was over on my estimate. how much hp percent is taken off from the crank to the wheels?

732xghost

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after my friends H23 gets swapped into his prelude the shop is doing a dyno tune.

ill post the results.

97BlackAckCL

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not what i meant

732xghost

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duh. i thought you qouted chris' other post.