I know theres a few brake kits out there but they are out of this world expensive. And i know about the legend/nsx possibilities. But i ran upon this recently, and from what i can tell its possible on our cars.

http://www..com/showthread.php?t=2071969

 

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that looks cool! but it looks like you would need some stuff made to make it work. clearance might be an issue too.

 

i think our rotors are sized fine for our cars, i think its the 1 piston caliper that blows dick.

 

I've been waiting for someone to use the RL calipers, that's what I really want to use instead of the legend calipers

 

The 3.0 rotors are plenty big, and are a nice upgrade for the 4bangers

 

thats what i did!

i keep forgetting i need brake pads for a 3.0 and not my 2.3

 

I still think the 2.x rotors are sized fine...

 

Then you're wrong

 

im pretty sure that our rotors with 4, even 2 piston calipers would perform just as well as larger rotors.

 

, more surface area = better stopping ability, thus the 3.0 rotors are better. The damn 2.3's i got now suck, and they're aftermarket slotted ones too. Not big enough.

 

how much bigger are the 3.0 ones? My shitty stock 2.2 ones look so small and ridiculous behind my 18 inch rims. I hate it!

 

Then like I said you don't know what you're talking about

 

Your right, more surface area = more stopping power, thats simple physics. I cant deny that.

ok now that we have surface area out of the way, answer me this;

How much bigger are the 3.0 rotors then the 2.x rotors? if the answer is less the .7" then yes, a 4 piston caliper will do a better job on the 2.x rotors then a 1 piston will do on a 3.0.

 

And by your logic, the 4 pistons will do better on a 3.0 rotor than a 2.x. So you're still wrong. The 3.0 rotors are superior. Why do you think people put the Legend calipers on? Dual pistons + bigger 3.0 rotor = great stopping power.

 

I think what he's trying to say is that:
2.x rotor with 4 piston caliper > 3.0 rotor with 1 piston caliper

 

are 3.0 calipers the same size as the prelude vtec ones?

 

which is what size?

 

11.1 in

 

i didnt post the link. but theres a thread on there about it too, and looks like the guy is making the custom brackets himself, and sells them with everything in a kit.



and are u really honestly saying that there wont be much braking power upgraded with these compared to the stock slushbox brakes. youve obviously never driven a newer car with a multiple piston caliper, cause they are crazy touchy. could stop on a , better than a dime

 

EXACTLY.

thankyou for understanding



and spencer, yes I have, incredibly touchy.. dont have to throw your pedal to the floor to slow down.

 

yeah but you would need them if your driving a performance oriented car the way its supposed to be. if someone is going to be doing brake upgrades i would assume that they are doing it for performance reasons. hopefully because they have the power and speed to need better brakes.

 

That's still not a good comparison, comparing a 1 piston to a 4 piston

Bottom line is the larger rotors are better, because it provides more surface area for the brake pad to grip and apply friction. Adding an extra piston like the legend calipers helps compliment a larger rotor (just like it says in the n00b guide) and yes, if there was a 4 piston caliper that bolted right up to the 3.0 brackets I would install them instead of the legend calipers

 

92-96 Prelude VTEC brakes swap. same bolt pattern, caliper should bolt right up. or the 3.0 swap.

 

you going to put the captain obvious emoticon in any more of your posts? I dont think you played it out enough. your completely overlooking my point, and just twisting it to what you want it to be so that your right and im wrong. I AM SAYING THAT IN GENERAL.. a 4 piston caliper on a "smaller" rotor will be more efficent then a 1 piston caliper on a SLIGHTLY LARGER rotor.. its not a hard concept. I am not just comparing a 1 piston to a 4 piston, im also comparing various rotor sizes. yes, a 4 piston on a larger rotor would be better then a 1 piston on a larger rotor, thats just common sense. but thats NOT what i am comparing, now is it?

 

You're struggling to realize that you were wrong, and won't admit it. Until you can show me a 4 piston caliper for the 2.x it's irrelevant. I'm simply saying that a larger rotor is better, that's been my point all along, that's why they sell big brake kits. You would notice an improved braking with your 2.x 1 piston caliper if you put a larger 3.0 rotor on it, the only point I was trying to make. I'm not quite sure why you're clinging to the idea that a 4 piston caliper is so much better than a 1 piston caliper, I think it is common sense like you said. I just don't see your argument beyond that, since you were saying that the 2.x rotors are sufficient, which several others on here have already said they're not

 

I want to see a side by side of the 3.0 rotor and the 2.2 just to get a good look at a the difference!

 

wait, So u can just slap a 3.0 rotor with 3.0 pads on the stock 2.x hub/caliper/bracket?

 

I believe you need the caliper brackets to move the caliper up, hybrid should know for sure

 

you're wrong either way. A Larger rotor dissipates heat caused by hard braking better than a small rotor.
having a smaller rotor will more pistons will increase initial braking power but will eventually fade out your brakes (overheat in simple language) much faster than if you had a larger rotor. No serious track cars have smaller rotors with more pistons. it's the lack of heat dissipation that kills your brakes in a prolonged performance driving situation.

 

Well said dicorp, it's like I said, they sell big brake kits for a reason, and most of those are just larger rotors with caliper brackets

 

too bad it took almost 30 replies to explain such an obvious concept. Some people just don't wanna listen.

 

 

Right, but im speaking more then just our CL's.. I did say in general.. did I not? I understand, more surface area = more braking power, less heat build up etc. but the same goes for slotted and drilled, they cool quicker. now, for a car you daily drive on the road, being able to stop short is a good quality, at least ive been led to believe so with the way people drive. Dicorp said it himself, more pistons = more initial stopping power. NOT ONCE did I mention anything about track applications.



all in all, I would rather have a smaller rotor with more initial braking power then a larger rotor with less. that's all I've been trying to say, I dont understand what you two dont get about that. Would you like me to use another language?

 

Your F23A1 is NOT making enough power to require a twin piston caliper by anymeans.

you don't really want too much intial power, because the rotor will overheat and warp, requiring replacement if you continously stomp on the brakes. That's why multiple piston calipers are paired with larger rotors. They're able to handle the heat and dissipate it effectively.

Drilled rotors are garbage, they tend to warp and crack very quickly. Another reason why you see them on high peformance vehicles that get their brakes overhauled very often. for a very large amount. Not to mention, a set of Porsche rotors probably costs more than your CL and Powerslot discs off Egay are not something to buy. They're shit.

 

while I agree with everything you just said.. the CL isnt exactly a lightweight, what does the f23's power have to do with it? if your traveling at 40 mph, your traveling at 40mph, the kinetic energy is going to be the same as if you had any other engine that weighed the same in the car.

 

Why is this argument even occuring. If ahnexonia wants to rear end someone because he has no clue about brakes. Then just let the argumentative noob do what he feels in his heart. LOL

 

the point is your less likley to rear end someone driving on a daily basis with 4 piston calipers.

 

yeah and they look badass stoping.