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Old 06-17-2009, 11:56 AM
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ahhh crossroads!

So I met this kid the other day, made a compliment on my car etc. fell in love with it, it was cool. the cooler part comes when he offered me 5500$ for it. i paid 3400$ for it, and ive probably spent 1k in mods, so id be making a 1,100 profit. as much as i love this car, it gets me some serious negative attention in my area. (godamn po po tryin catch me riding dirty)

So the question is, should i take the 5500, spend 3900 on this beautiful wagon right in the area and make bank?






Its a 9-5 turbo wagon. b235e engine(280 Nm @ 1800 rpm, 170 hp@ 5500 rpm), 5 speed. leather, heated seats, premium 9 speaker sound with 200w amp. the only thing id suffer really is gas mileage (i get about 32 mpg now, and id be pulling 26 in this..)

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That's totally your call. If you don't mind going more the soccer mom route even though it's a fairly sporty car people that see you riding will think you're in your parents car.
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do it! i hear saab forums are the SHIT!
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I've had a few offers on my car. Yes, they are tempting, but I always come back to a Hell No. Just think, people want your car, but only you can have it
I cringe thinking about seeing my car being driven around town by someone else. I made it the way it is, it's just not right for it to belong to someone else.

And I would never buy a Saab..
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i love wagons, done right of course. i mean, i bought my CL because its unique.. how many wagons do you see dropped on rims that could shit on most cars? the only reason id buy this saab is because its wasnt molested by GM. it has a saab engineered powertrain, and some serious potential.

Edit: not to mention, im a film student.. and its hard as fuck to move anything in a coupe.
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sell it! I wouldn't pass up the opportunity to make a grand, your car's only going to go down in value, I never keep a car long, I always sell it for a profit about a year or less of buying it
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Hey I'm way down with wagons, just not Saabs. My is keep the CL, especially if it's going to be replaced by that.
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Shnee what is it about saabs that you dont approve of?

another thing i just though about.. id be picking up a car thats one year newer then my cl, but has almost double the amount of miles...

its so much more practical in my head to own a wagon
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I'd sell, but get a WRX wagon instead
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Originally Posted by 1slo23
I'd sell, but get a WRX wagon instead
i would love to, but not really in my price range. finding a wrx wagon for 5000 it would either have to not have an engine, or have 200+k miles

I found a v70r awd 5 speed for 2,000 $ but it had 205k miles on it.. otherwise it would already be mine.
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Originally Posted by Anhedonia
Shnee what is it about saabs that you dont approve of?

another thing i just though about.. id be picking up a car thats one year newer then my cl, but has almost double the amount of miles...

its so much more practical in my head to own a wagon
Saabs are prone to break, cost a lot to repair, and be generally dull. How many miles are on your CL? I would not get into a car with twice as many miles!
I do like wagons and have looked into replacing the CL with one in the past, but I've never even considered Saab. It's your decision, but that's my input.
Why not keep your eye out for a nice accord wagon and spend some money on fixing it up nice?
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sell your cl for another one.
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Well my issues are
-Not enough space to move multiple light kits, large shit in general
-black, loud, young kid owned coupe attracts much attention.

Pros to saab wagon
-Larger, much space for stuff and things
-definitley unique
-decent gas mileage for a car its size
-max tq hits at 1800 rpm, before the turbo even spools
-good looking wagon
Cons
-larger, weighs in at 3500 lbs
-suffer some gas mileage
-10x,xxx miles


Pros of my cl
-Unique
-the way i like it
-large enough to seat 4 comfortably
-amazing gas mileage
-55,xxx miles

Cons
-2.slow.
-clutch may be starting to go, only slips sometimes. dont ask
-no space for much of anything.
-insurance is slightly higher because its a coupe, but then again that will be about the same since the saab is a turbo
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Originally Posted by Anhedonia
Well my issues are
-Not enough space to move multiple light kits, large shit in general
-black, loud, young kid owned coupe attracts much attention.
LOL I read this as you are a black, loud, young kid

Pros to saab wagon
-Larger, much space for stuff and things
-definitley unique
-decent gas mileage for a car its size
-max tq hits at 1800 rpm, before the turbo even spools
-good looking wagon questionable
Cons
-larger, weighs in at 3500 lbs
-suffer some gas mileage
-10x,xxx miles
-on some lists for unreliability
-expensive repairs


Pros of my cl
-Unique
-the way i like it
-large enough to seat 4 comfortably
-amazing gas mileage
-55,xxx miles

Cons
-2.slow.
-clutch may be starting to go, only slips sometimes. dont ask
-no space for much of anything.
-insurance is slightly higher because its a coupe, but then again that will be about the same since the saab is a turbo
Added some things in there..
Don't forget that being a turbo, that may be an area of concern. Used cars with turbos can be a huge headache.
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Originally Posted by shnee420
Added some things in there..
Don't forget that being a turbo, that may be an area of concern. Used cars with turbos can be a huge headache.
very true, ill check to see if theres any play in it when i go check it out. thats one of those automatic disqualifies for me.

You say expensive repairs, its expensive if you take it to a shop. I came from owning both an Audi and a BMW. same boat. its all about how well the car was cared for. and if regular maintnence was kept up.
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One plus side is you can get out before you get too heavily invested in the CL if that's your decision.

After what I've done to my car (as far as getting it prepped for another +5 years of service) I would be foolish to let it go unless someone offered me an obscene amount of money(compared to the value of the car)
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Originally Posted by Anhedonia
very true, ill check to see if theres any play in it when i go check it out. thats one of those automatic disqualifies for me.

You say expensive repairs, its expensive if you take it to a shop. I came from owning both an Audi and a BMW. same boat. its all about how well the car was cared for. and if regular maintnence was kept up.

I don't know man, those Saabs seem to be more faulty than should be expected, certainly more so your CL. I knew a guy with a 9-5 and it was hellish. I know that's just one guy, so I wasn't going to say anything; but like I said, I looked at wagons for a while, and some online reading quickly steered me away from Saab.
Anyway, if you go that route, just don't say I didn't warn you
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haha yeah, i hear that. ive read some bad reviews, but ive read bad reviews about every car yanno? each cars individual. i had a 96 maxima that mechanically ran like a champ, but every other thing on the godamn car went wrong or broke.

sadly the market for wagons is kind of a slim one. At least the ones that appeal to me.

Saab 9-5
Subaru impreza, outback sport, wrx(the latter being too expensive)
BMW Touring w/xtrac (out of my price range,although id do some nasty things for an e39 540xit/6speed)
Volvo V70r

Ill never own another audi/vw. that was a fucking nightmare.
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i highly doubt that kid would come through with 5500 for a cl. he would research and find out its not worth anything near that
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In my opinion, if you're going to sell it, go for something else other than that saab. That saab yells, "THIS IS MY MOM'S CAR". I love wagons, but that one in my mind modded, still doesn't look clean. Goodluck with whatever it is your decide.
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sell your car, buy a 89-91 civic wagon for 1000 bucks, turbo, slam, rims, done.(all cheap parts on craigslist)

and youll probably end up with a few extra thousand to mess with
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get the Saab. If it's been well maintained, it's a good car. It's also fast as fuck.
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Originally Posted by spencer_homer
do it! i hear saab forums are the SHIT!
u took the words right outta my mouth lol.
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hmm....

have u thought about the "pimp" factor of the saab?... looking at the saab... i can tell you that there is none. the Saab being 170hp and turbo... doesnt actually mean it would be faster than the CL. the Saab is heavier and may not be as stable as the CL at higher speeds which also means that the CL can out handle the saab.

my vote is to keep the CL unless ur getting a TL, 350z, g35 or something better looking.

good luck with ur decision but that stuff is just my
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that saab has sleeper written all over it... Usually factory turbo cars are easier and cheaper to make faster. I can't believe it's got a 5-speed, that's gotta be rare
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first you gotta be sure that this kid can come up with $5500, on the spot, for your car. second, its your decision, but i dont really like the saab. people will ask you if its your mom's car. a honda accord wagon can look dope with a drop and rims. plus, plenty of room for your film stuff.
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that car would be sick as a 4 door not wagon id sell her and get somethin diff
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Originally Posted by spencer_homer
i highly doubt that kid would come through with 5500 for a cl. he would research and find out its not worth anything near that
he wants a cl with real low miles, which i have. probably one of the lowest, if not top 5 lowest on the forum, or in general. some people pay outrageous amounts of money for cars they love, with low miles. perfect example is an MR2. 89 NA with 33k miles just went for 12k on mr2oc.com the otherday im not asking any questions.

Originally Posted by spencer_homer
sell your car, buy a 89-91 civic wagon for 1000 bucks, turbo, slam, rims, done.(all cheap parts on craigslist)

and youll probably end up with a few extra thousand to mess with
Really not a fan of civics, too bland, not unique for me. especially since one of my good friends has a 91 civic wagon thats slammed b18/turbo lol

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get the Saab. If it's been well maintained, it's a good car. It's also fast as fuck.
Exactly my thinking, for a wagon at least. it only weighs 300 lbs more then our CL's for twice the cargo capacity

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hmm....

have u thought about the "pimp" factor of the saab?... looking at the saab... i can tell you that there is none. the Saab being 170hp and turbo... doesnt actually mean it would be faster than the CL. the Saab is heavier and may not be as stable as the CL at higher speeds which also means that the CL can out handle the saab.
True, it doesnt make it necessarily faster, but it gives it a sick tuning platform. Ask nate about his buddy with the 400+ whp saab wagon.

As for pimp factor.. My girlfriend likes it, plus with fold flat rear seats but anyways;

Its not how you stand by your car, its how you drive your car.

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that saab has sleeper written all over it... Usually factory turbo cars are easier and cheaper to make faster. I can't believe it's got a 5-speed, that's gotta be rare
exactly what i was thinking. The base model was actually sold with a 5 speed, there were not many sold in wagon form. The ones that were are either held on to by collectors/enthusiasts, or they occasionally pop up like this one.

Originally Posted by South Jersey CL
first you gotta be sure that this kid can come up with $5500, on the spot, for your car. second, its your decision, but i dont really like the saab. people will ask you if its your mom's car. a honda accord wagon can look dope with a drop and rims. plus, plenty of room for your film stuff.
Theres at least 3 accord wagons tinted in this area, slammed and sitting on 18-19's. again, not my style. the accord wagons are just too round for my liking. same reason i dont like late 90's legacies.
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As for pimp factor.. My girlfriend likes it, plus with fold flat rear seats
Omfg, jump on that shit then!
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do eeettt, you seem very excited about the saab, if you love it a lot, all of the cons o it just dissappear
i like wagons in general, and i usually like saab styling, but i really do not love the look of that saab wagon
why not a volvo wagon, or an audi wagon..... Audi A6 wagon bagged and on bentley wheels is teh secks btw
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do eeettt, you seem very excited about the saab, if you love it a lot, all of the cons o it just dissappear
i like wagons in general, and i usually like saab styling, but i really do not love the look of that saab wagon
why not a volvo wagon, or an audi wagon..... Audi A6 wagon bagged and on bentley wheels is teh secks btw

as long as im a college student, i will not own another audi. my last one leaked coolant faster then i could put gas in it. not to mention when i turned on my high beams my windshield wipers turned on. along with a shlieu of other problems.

godamn, there waons are so sexy, but its just not worth it.


I do like volvo wagons, the v70r is sick, i found one thats awd and 5 speed, but it had 205k miles on it. unfortunatley, finding a manual wagon is a needle in a haystack.
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i do like the volvos. my buddy has a S70 sedan, and its so sexy, he dropped it, white with white rims, projos, etc. so hot.
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no. not for that car. maybe something else.
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well if your throwing in that you have no place to shag and its great for that then go for it.

But that has old man or soccer mom written over it.
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well if your throwing in that you have no place to shag and its great for that then go for it.

But that has sleeper

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