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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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Angry ABS is a P.O.S.

So i was going down a hill today and at the bottom of the hill there is a stop sign. Im going about 10 MPH about 200 feet away from the sign all of a sudden the wheels lock up and it starts skidding. ABS kicks in right away and the pedal pushes back 3/4 of the way and pulsates (STUPID idea on Honda's side). It rained all day here and this was at the end of the day. The people going on the cross street didnt have a stop so they didnt stop. I turned the steering wheel to the right the car kept going straight. The road is kinda sloped to the left so i turned the wheel to the left fully. The car starts to turn to the left and skidding sideways. I stop about 10 feet past the sign sideways. If the ABS had not kicked in, I would have been able to stop. I tried pulsing the brakes as is with the ABS working, but it didnt work. While I was driving then, and while i was breaking, i could feel her start slipping but it wasnt so bad and then when the ABS kicked in, it just felt like i was on ice. So far, i hate the ABS system in this car. It doesnt work the way that other systems do in other cars. I HATE IT!!!
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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take out the abs relay
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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yea i was thinking about that...

btw, did you get new tires?
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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yeah i ordered the same ones that were on
they were 125 a piece, getting them installed tomorrow morning
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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you mean the yoko's?
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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yeah the yoko avid v4s
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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i thought this was gunna be another thread about the ebay lip lol.
btw, i thought abs didnt kick in til after 25mph?
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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Yea those tires were amazing for me.
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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Really? Well hell i dont know. I mean i know that i was going 10 cuz i looked to see right before i started skidding...
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
yeah the yoko avid v4s
Yeah once you get them mounted and balanced and when you start driving, you will notice a great difference. Just get that car aligned! Haha
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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oh yeah that full size spare you gave me........i forgot to tighten it at your house, luckly i pulled over because something fell off and i had the tools that you gave me earlier to tighten it.... i would of been screwed since that road from your house to 422 is so curvy
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 11:43 PM
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ya ABS is balls..mines not workin at all right now
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 11:53 PM
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i thought this was gunna be another thread about the ebay lip lol.
btw, i thought abs didnt kick in til after 25mph?
Haha yea I think so, I was going 20 when I umm skidded off the road a while back. I was wondering why my tires locked up...
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 12:43 AM
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False information and misconceptions run rampant.

ABS works at just above a rolling speed, 2-5mph at the maximum. Anything that, or above, will trigger ABS- even in reverse.

ABS is known to increase stopping distances in certain situations, like the one you described above. If you were doing 10mph and the car reacted as dramatically as you said, the road was too slippery for any electronic aid to do anything about it. ABS won't help you in that situation, just as it won't help you on ice. To expect it to is wrong.

Personally, I have owned many cars with ABS and the good things this system provides by far and large outnumber the extremely rare situation where ABS lengthens stopping distances.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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there should be an abs disable button. like the vsa button on the tsx
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 02:40 AM
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Why not use the hand/ebrake?
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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there should be an abs disable button. like the vsa button on the tsx
Pull the fuse
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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Even with ABS you can pulse the brakes yourself, If you do it quickly the ABS won't be able to act. I'm confused also, you have to press the brakes fkn hard for my ABS to kick in. I've never been in a situation where the ABS engaged.

That's never happened to me and it rains all the time here
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kraftey
Even with ABS you can pulse the brakes yourself, If you do it quickly the ABS won't be able to act. I'm confused also, you have to press the brakes fkn hard for my ABS to kick in. I've never been in a situation where the ABS engaged.

That's never happened to me and it rains all the time here
maybe urs aint working.

u really dont have to hit the brake hard for it to activate. it just do right when it scense the wheel are locking up.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by kraftey
it rains all the time here
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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I think thats a problem with the driver rather than the ABS itself. Unless your shit just aint workin right. I have never had a problem with mine going out of control.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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the roads from his goes like down hill in twists and sharp turns........i cant imagine driving there in snow
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
the roads from his goes like down hill in twists and sharp turns........i cant imagine driving there in snow

its a must to pump the brakes in the snow. otherwise you're gonna slide for a while.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by herbalist
its a must to pump the brakes in the snow. otherwise you're gonna slide for a while.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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so wait a second.. the abs is when the brakes feel like they're kicking back at you? Boo to that shit...
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by herbalist
its a must to pump the brakes in the snow. otherwise you're gonna slide for a while.
or just e-brake it and slide
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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winter e-brake turns
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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i highly recommend them to anyone that hasn't try it
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverCL97
or just e-brake it and slide
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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i highly recommend them to anyone that hasn't try it
Preferably not near a cliff.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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E-Brake massive?
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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Preferably not near a cliff.


i'd assume not
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SwervinCL
Preferably not near a cliff.
Or near a ditch. I knew a kid who did it for the first time and ended up ditching his 626. None the less he learned...
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
the roads from his goes like down hill in twists and sharp turns........i cant imagine driving there in snow
The best part is that that road that you are talking about isnt bad during snow. They spray that anti-snow shit on it everytime its about to snow so nothing sticks... Plus a SHITLOAD of salt (boo) and rocks.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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only time I've ever had ABS kick in when I was in packed snow, you must suck at driving, or have shitty tires.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by herbalist
its a must to pump the brakes in the snow. otherwise you're gonna slide for a while.
Are you sure about that? I found that I stopped faster on ice when I just mashed the brakes and let the ABS do it's thing. Blizzak winter tires is a must in the snow.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ghost_masterCL
only time I've ever had ABS kick in when I was in packed snow, you must suck at driving, or have shitty tires.
Its the first time that it kicked in for me too. But the the thing is that it was just total bull shit that once it kicked in, the car just felt like it hit ice and kept going...
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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maybe it was an electrical fault? when abs does kick in for me in the snow it works pretty well. of course I don't just keep my foot down, I slowly pulse on the break peddle with my foot, and then the abs stops working and my foot does the rest. If you did't let off the break peddle completely then abs would not have disengaged.

You have to let off completely, then slowly engage the break manually. I live in a very mountainous region too, so when it does snow I get a little ABS action almost every time I drive
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