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Old 07-24-2003, 03:06 AM
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mY auto tranny is slipping in a gears when it shifts. I dont know why but if it not a simple problem than i would have to get a new tranny. I am think a 5 spd would be better but i dont know if i need one from a specific year or obd2 to go with the engine. What parts do i need to complete the swap and how much should it run for the tranny and labor. I want to do it right so it willl last and have NO check engine lights. Can anyone help me with this??
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Do a search, this has been addressed many many times
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thats funny that u told me to do a search. You act like I didnt do that already. FYI i did a search amd it came out to be insufficeint info and therefore I am posting my question here. I already know that a f22 or f23 , h22 series trannies will fit but since my car is a 99 and not a 97 Im thinking it would be hard simply b/c the engine harnesses are different but im not sure. If I am not mistaken the tranny is controlled by the ECU and in order to convert the tranny i have to yank the whole harness ouut and replace it with a manual tranny harness.

Thanks for the advice on doing the search method. I would probably forget about it if you didnt remind me even tho i have been on the board for as long as you have maybe even longer.:wackit:
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you will need a 5sp tranny of your choice...e.g.(h22, h23, f22, f23)
heres the hard part, since obdII(96 and above cars) have an imobilizer built in...you will need to get a 5spd ecu, key, and cylinder from the same car otherwise it will not work. other options include getting a 96 ecu (still obdII but does not have the imoblizer..they started in 97) OR you can get a 95 ecu and purchase a obd coversion harness.
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am i going going to have to change the whole engine harness? Mind as well do a complete h22a or h22a4 swap huh?
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Re: 5 speed manual conversion

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mY auto tranny is slipping in a gears when it shifts. I dont know why but if it not a simple problem than i would have to get a new tranny. I am think a 5 spd would be better but i dont know if i need one from a specific year or obd2 to go with the engine. What parts do i need to complete the swap and how much should it run for the tranny and labor. I want to do it right so it willl last and have NO check engine lights. Can anyone help me with this??
how much does something like that cost?
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trannies run anywhere from 500- 3000 depending on where u look...
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Originally posted by ilike2cheez
thats funny that u told me to do a search. You act like I didnt do that already. FYI i did a search amd it came out to be insufficeint info and therefore I am posting my question here. I already know that a f22 or f23 , h22 series trannies will fit but since my car is a 99 and not a 97 Im thinking it would be hard simply b/c the engine harnesses are different but im not sure. If I am not mistaken the tranny is controlled by the ECU and in order to convert the tranny i have to yank the whole harness ouut and replace it with a manual tranny harness.

Thanks for the advice on doing the search method. I would probably forget about it if you didnt remind me even tho i have been on the board for as long as you have maybe even longer.:wackit:
I know for a fact that this one has been addressed many times.

Dont get angry because someone told you a quickier and easier way to find your answers.

Nowq go have another brew
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Originally posted by KC CL 1785
I know for a fact that this one has been addressed many times.

Dont get angry because someone told you a quickier and easier way to find your answers.

Nowq go have another brew
You are right, it has been addressed many times, however, no one really knows what the fuck they are talking about most of the time. I could see giving him shit about a search if he were asking about clear corners or an intake. But with something this complicated (tranny swap, engine swap) you can never get enough answers. I am still looking for info on my swap and i have been lookin since last year. So if someone is looking for info on a topic like this, don't flame them, just help em out. But if they ask about clear corners.... :flamer: :flamer:
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Originally posted by KC CL 1785
I know for a fact that this one has been addressed many times.

Dont get angry because someone told you a quickier and easier way to find your answers.

Nowq go have another brew

this shit hasn't been spoken about in while...

www.hmotorsonline.com

full engine swaps and parts...

im looking for one in the future just need the funds and someone who can actually swap it for me.
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Your best bet is to go to www.honda-tech.com and go to the hybrid section. ITs filled with civic dudes mostly, but you can still find a wealth of info there about this topic. OH, and do a search first , you will probly get decent results over there.
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thanks for the replies. I heard that the 98-99 are different from the 97 CL b/c they have a differnet engine therefore a different ECU and harness. The tranny is controlled by the ECU in this 99 model year and would be difficult to convert without changing out the whole harness. I figure i mind as well do an engine swap. The only prob is that to keep it legal i must find an OBD2 motor. Also the H22a4( OBD2) motor would be easier to swap due to the wiring. A JDM h22a OBD1 would work but would be harder to wire up and i would have to convert to OBD1 and would NOT pass emmisions. With the OBD2 setup i can run anOBD1 p13 ECU with a skunk2 conversion harness.

But if anyone done a tranny swap in a 98-99 CL let me know. Thanks again
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