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Old 10-29-2003, 05:25 PM
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2.3 vs gsr

I passed this white gsr around a turn and gave him a little rev. I was already ahead of him and then punched it when i heard him go. We were both already in second gear, and I surprisingly held him off for a few seconds but then a car was infront of him and he had to brake. So did I and we both rolled down our windows. It was one of my friends with a preludes little brother! Then I notice the rims as we slow down and realize that this was one of my other friends gsr's that was wrecked a few months back, and sold. I knew my friend had bought it, but i didn't know they got it running already.

We decided to go from a stop just for fun, so we found a good spot and went at it. We both had a passenger, and his passenger counted to 3. My launch was ok, not great and it sounded like his was about the same because we both caught at the exact same time. Through 1st it was dead even, but when I shifted he gained a nose on me. Through second he just very slowly pulled, but barely at all. He didn't even have a full car on me untill we shifted to 3rd. I shut down at about 90 and he only had me by about a car and a half. =1/2 car gap between our bumpers. At the stop sign, we both said good run and took off.

This is like the 4th gs-r i've raced, and it's usually the same outcome evey time. Usually if I have a great launch i can actually stay ahead till 50 or so, but my launch wasn't that great this time. I had actually raced this exact gs-r before when it was owned by my other friend that crashed it. Pretty much the same results then except I usually got him off the line
I have e/i/4-2-1h on my 2.3 5spd
The gs-r has e/i/4-1h

Overall I'm really not too impressed with gs-r's, because I already know my car is slow as fuck and always expect them to hand me my ass worse then they do. Anyway, it was a fun race, and I was glad to see that car running again
Old 10-29-2003, 07:25 PM
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He doesn't know how to drive...period. I've driven 4 GS-R's and they're fast. Easily faster than a 2.X with e/i.
Old 10-29-2003, 08:10 PM
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he must be a horrible driver cuz those thing should be able to beat you with ease.
Old 10-29-2003, 08:33 PM
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As i've said before, gs-r's will wipe a 2.2 or 2.3 clean all the time. our cars are too heavy and dont have the torque or the high redline as those cars have.
Old 10-30-2003, 08:01 AM
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Christian Martinez of indianapolis ran a 14.5 with CAI on a 00 GSR at indy raceway park (notorious for being slow track)

he runs a consistent 14.6-14.8

you should race him
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im sorry i have to but NO WAY IN HELL A GSR IS GOIN TO RUN 14.6 WITH JUST INTAKE

that is just BULL SHIT
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Originally posted by DIO 87 Prelude
Christian Martinez of indianapolis ran a 14.5 with CAI on a 00 GSR at indy raceway park (notorious for being slow track)

he runs a consistent 14.6-14.8

you should race him
woah woah, not trying to say i'm fast at all, just telling you what happened. I always thought gs-r's were faster too, but like I said i've raced like 4 of my friends with bolt on gsr's, and all of them were within 2 cars. I've driven them too, and they feel alot faster than they really are.

And that guy your talking about probably has they older, 94-95 gs-r with obd1. From what i've heard those are quite a bit quicker than the newer ones.
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Originally posted by ApocalypseCL
he must be a horrible driver cuz those thing should be able to beat you with ease.
This was probably the best gs-r driver i've raced so far still not saying he was perfect or anything, but usually I always get the jump on them and can hold them off at least till 50. Maybe every gs-r driver i've raced sucks, but all i know is that they really are not much quicker than us untill 3rd gear
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Originally posted by ge1stn
im sorry i have to but NO WAY IN HELL A GSR IS GOIN TO RUN 14.6 WITH JUST INTAKE

that is just BULL SHIT
Two of the gs-r's that I have raced have run low 15's with e/i/h. One of them has hit a high 14 before, but most gs-r's aren't going to hit mid-low 14's even with e/i/h.

(only the obd1, factory freaks, with great tires, stripped, with a PERFECT launch, and a badass driver will hit times like that)
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Ok... my friends GS-R with e/i/h does high to mid nines on the 1/8th... I on the other hand do low tens, and I have i/e
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Originally posted by DeadLeg
Ok... my friends GS-R with e/i/h does high to mid nines on the 1/8th... I on the other hand do low tens, and I have i/e
really, thats pretty good. What year gs-r?? my friends spec-v stopms on every bolt on gs-r he's raced, and he only runs high 9's in the 1/8th. Those are all 99+ with obd2 tho. My CL with e/i/h does low 10's too. well it did low 10's with e/i and i haven't ran it yet with the H, but it really didn't do much at all.

i guess every gs-r where i live can't drive
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Lol, maybe... but I just ordered a polished Unorthodox pulley kit for my car... so I should be running better then low ten's... hopefully.
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Originally posted by DeadLeg
Lol, maybe... but I just ordered a polished Unorthodox pulley kit for my car... so I should be running better then low ten's... hopefully.
Hey let me know if there is a noticable power gain from those once you get them. ALso let me knopw how hard the install was. Thanks bro, and good luck with the pulleys.
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The crank pulley will be a bitch to put on, and every pound you take off the crank adds like 2-3+ Hp, so it will be a noticable difference, cause the crank pulley should weigh like 2-3 pounds less... and plus the alternator pulley will also add some Hp.
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Originally posted by ge1stn
im sorry i have to but NO WAY IN HELL A GSR IS GOIN TO RUN 14.6 WITH JUST INTAKE

that is just BULL SHIT
not true, my friend ran a 14.6 on his 95 gsr with only intake. of course he stripped out the back seats and all but stil. have time slips to prove it. gsr's are quick little bastards if u drive em right.
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Originally posted by jamolie
not true, my friend ran a 14.6 on his 95 gsr with only intake. of course he stripped out the back seats and all but stil. have time slips to prove it. gsr's are quick little bastards if u drive em right.
yeah, the only way I see people getting these times out of gs-r's is if they are stripped and are the older obd1 ecu like your friends.
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Originally posted by SooDARK
yeah, the only way I see people getting these times out of gs-r's is if they are stripped and are the older obd1 ecu like your friends.
i agree... my other friend with a 2000 gsr with some bolt ons... pulleys, intake only ran a 15.7. it was pretty surprising and pathetic. driver was the same as in the 14.6 run... so no it was not the driver. obd1 kicks ass.
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No, it is an obd2 00 or 01.

Here is his list of 'mods' when he ran that 14.5
1.)Took out front seat and back seat and spare tire and jack (100 lbs = 1/10th second in theoretical racing....i doubt this was 100lbs)
2.) He did 4 Free mods that i had recommended
3.)He had AEM CAI
4.)He has 16"Enkeis
5.)Lowering Springs
6.)lower tire pressure
(so only one mod he had to pay for)
Whenever anyone around here posts his time of 14.5 people get into a fit. It is quite possible for anyone with a gsr to get this time. most people sit on the internet all day long and dont race their car enough. True, he didnt get this his first time out, but once he did get it, he rarely stepped back in the 15s. I suggest you challenge all your GSR friends to beat this. Good launch and quick shifting can get your friends knocking on, or into the 14s.

http://www.indyimport.com/cmartinez_integra.shtml
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oh and we think his is a factory freak for sure
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okay i was thinkin yall were sayin i nfull stock trim not gutted ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE JUST VERY UNLIKELY my friend has a 95 he ran a 15.5 with just a k&n with me in the car
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not too gutted, sucks anyways weighin all that shit weighs like nothing....back seat total is like 10 lbs, its just cheap foam. and the front seat and jack and spare tire were nothin really about 60 total i would say. he ends up running a 14.8-15.0 flat when he has stock trim interior, still do the free mods under the hood. I think a 15.0 is reachable with an intake on a gsr
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