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Old 10-30-2007 | 03:21 PM
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1999 2.3 cl 5speed M (Need advice on hourse power)

Hey um i ws woundering wat i can put on my car to boost hourse power, sound good and make her fast. Any advice will do.

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Old 10-30-2007 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by omg_its_the_2.3
Hey um i ws woundering wat i can put on my car to boost hourse power, sound good and make her fast. Any advice will do.

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What I want to know is how do you WOUNDER, and what is a HOURSE
Old 10-30-2007 | 03:40 PM
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What I want to know is how do you WOUNDER, and what is a HOURSE





anyways, best way is to drop in an H22...... its hard enough finding GOOD parts for our poor F series motors

a good H22 swap will boost you up to 200HP (Manual swap, if you buy an H22 that was an Auto its a meer 180HP)

anyways, that 50 right there, plus the potential of an H22 as opposed to an F22/23 is staggering...... so there you have it, 1st step H22....... or G22 if you intend to go with the boost
Old 10-30-2007 | 03:41 PM
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only way to see a good gain in hp is either nos or turbo. nos will be the cheapest. Otherwise exhaust is mainly just for sound. our cars are slow just learn to live with it.
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Read, and search please, this has been discussed numerous times

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179727
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H22 or H23A Vtec.
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^^^well a 3rd option is F20B...... about the same as H22, but savesyou the trouble of hunting down a OBD2 H22, since ALL F20Bs are OBD2....... its a bit more costly...... but its more original than an H22, and just as easy of a swap
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less torque. i would only do it in a BB4 lude or a CB/CD Accord.
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less torque. i would only do it in a BB4 lude or a CB/CD Accord.
granted thats a very good point, but, im sure theres more torque in it over our pitiful F22s

and besides we arent THAT much heavier than our CD7 sister car

BB4s and CBs on the other hand, yes were bricks next to them, but our stock engine power pushes us over them barely..... (I raced a manual CD5 in my CL and barely pulled away)
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F22's got torque man. the F20b only has 145lb-ft, an F23 makes 152lb-ft. i know thats only buy a few horses but still.
Old 10-30-2007 | 05:08 PM
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sell it and buy something designed for performance. the CL is not.

buy an s14 240sx. they don't look nearly as ghetto as their s13 counterpart, and they're handling monsters.
Old 10-30-2007 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BustedS13
sell it and buy something designed for performance. the CL is not.

buy an s14 240sx. they don't look nearly as ghetto as their s13 counterpart, and they're handling monsters.
s13 is rwd other than that its not designed for performance. Sure it has potential but in stock form its pretty annoying. the USDM s13 and s14 uses a fuckin small truck engine ..
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those small truck engines are beasts when boosted.
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imported S15 FTMFW........ lol.....
Old 10-30-2007 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 972xghost
F22's got torque man. the F20b only has 145lb-ft, an F23 makes 152lb-ft. i know thats only buy a few horses but still.

true enough. my dyno pass proved that alot more of my F22s torque made it to the ground than the little horsies
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anything can be built for performance.

and

anything can be a beast when boosted.
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Originally Posted by Palayah8ta
s13 is rwd other than that its not designed for performance. Sure it has potential but in stock form its pretty annoying. the USDM s13 and s14 uses a fuckin small truck engine ..
the near perfect weight distribution, significantly lighter weight (yes, 300 pounds is significant), and multilink rear suspension certainly aren't performance attributes. and the "small truck engine" makes more torque than horsepower, something you'll never find in a honda. and if you can't get along with a 7000 rpm redline and 155 horsepower, you can always swap in an sr20det or an rb25det.

anything can be built for performance.

and

anything can be a beast when boosted.
sure. and you can drive a car with your feet if you want to. that doesn't make it a good idea.
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Originally Posted by BustedS13
the near perfect weight distribution, significantly lighter weight (yes, 300 pounds is significant), and multilink rear suspension certainly aren't performance attributes. and the "small truck engine" makes more torque than horsepower, something you'll never find in a honda. and if you can't get along with a 7000 rpm redline and 155 horsepower, you can always swap in an sr20det or an rb25det.



sure. and you can drive a car with your feet if you want to. that doesn't make it a good idea.
sure you can the F22/3, B18B, etc etc. their out there. but generally honda's arent known for there torquey engines. i mean the F22C makes 240hp and like 130 something lb-ft. lol
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Originally Posted by BustedS13
the near perfect weight distribution, significantly lighter weight (yes, 300 pounds is significant), and multilink rear suspension certainly aren't performance attributes. and the "small truck engine" makes more torque than horsepower, something you'll never find in a honda. and if you can't get along with a 7000 rpm redline and 155 horsepower, you can always swap in an sr20det or an rb25det.

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I just hate how everyone talks SOOO highly of the nissan 240sx because everyone wants to be jdm drifter n shit. its a fat unreliable miata wannabe with 2 excuses for back seats, and a inefficient truck engine stuffed inside that makes the whole car shake at idle..
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yup.........
240SX = Useless
200SX = good fun

but either one isnt my thing, id take a Celica or a Teg over a 240/silvia any day

either way, im not too big of a Nissan guy from the start, but my next car might be from them just because neither Honda nor Toyota have caught onto the whole Smartkey thing
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id take a silvia anyday over a ghey celica and an integra.
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silvias are great, but I do NOT wanna go through all the trouble of importing one..... USDM FTL
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Originally Posted by omg_its_the_2.3
Hey um i ws woundering wat i can put on my car to boost hourse power, sound good and make her fast. Any advice will do.

Thanks,
Robert
H22a + turbo setup or NOS with all the necessary accesories. End of story.
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what website can i go to and get a turbo for the 1999 2.3 cl
Old 10-30-2007 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by lnsyone
anything can be built for performance.

and

anything can be a beast when boosted.
Werd.
Old 10-30-2007 | 09:47 PM
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few boltons will make it pull harder, when i had my cb i had all the boltons and it pulled pretty hard nothing fast but felt strong. When i dynoed it put down 116whp and 128 wtq , i was eventually going to do an h22 or f22 dohc swap.

The fseries has alot of potential, the best example i can think of is bisimoto with his 9 second honda insight. Go to www.bisimoto.com he's really pushed the limit of the sohc
Old 10-30-2007 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by G22_Powered_YA1
granted thats a very good point, but, im sure theres more torque in it over our pitiful F22s

and besides we arent THAT much heavier than our CD7 sister car

BB4s and CBs on the other hand, yes were bricks next to them, but our stock engine power pushes us over them barely..... (I raced a manual CD5 in my CL and barely pulled away)

last i checked my bb4 prelude is only 35 kg, thats 77lbs for you non metric ppl, pounds lighter than my 2.2 cl was
Old 10-30-2007 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DaInFaMMuS1
H22a + turbo setup or NOS with all the necessary accesories. End of story.
bad idea unless you overhaul most of your engine...h22s are less tolerant FA, in stock form. better off boosting an f22, those blocks are damn near bullet proof
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more adviseable to boost the f22
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wow. big noob here. they dont make any bolt on turbo kits for our cars, and if your seriously planning on boosting an f22, forget about it. either do a SERIOUS engine swap, or sell your car and get something else. cl's just aren't racecars. youll end up spending a lot more money building an f22, or any inline 4 for that matter, than just getting a fast car to start with.

go with a v6 if powers what you want.
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Originally Posted by Palayah8ta
I just hate how everyone talks SOOO highly of the nissan 240sx because everyone wants to be jdm drifter n shit. its a fat unreliable miata wannabe with 2 excuses for back seats, and a inefficient truck engine stuffed inside that makes the whole car shake at idle..
mine doesn't have back seats. they're in the garage. it also doesn't have an "inefficient truck engine". that's sitting under the carport, waiting to be picked up by a local. and this drifting you speak of..



this car handles too well to be thrown about, destroying tires. it's meant for road courses and autocross.

Originally Posted by G22_Powered_YA1
silvias are great, but I do NOT wanna go through all the trouble of importing one..... USDM FTL
a silvia is a 240sx with an sr20det under the hood. you can slap one together for under $3,000, or build yourself a monster for a bit more.

i recommend



for more information
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Originally Posted by BustedS13
a silvia is a 240sx with an sr20det under the hood.
i thought silvia's don't come in hatchback form.. arent they the 180sx in japan?

and the KA24 was originally made for those old 2door trucks not a coupe, thats why they waste so much gas.
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Originally Posted by Palayah8ta
i thought silvia's don't come in hatchback form.. arent they the 180sx in japan?

and the KA24 was originally made for those old 2door trucks not a coupe, thats why they waste so much gas.
1.) in america, the 240sx comes in both a coupe and hatch, from '89-94. they share the s13 platform. in japan, the coupe is the s13 silvia (albeit with different headlights/bumper/hood/fenders, which you can pick up here for under 500 for the whole shabang) and the hatch is the 180sx (named as such because it came originally with the ca18det instead of the sr20det, at least from '89-90). regardless, from an engineering perspective, they are the same car.

2.) the ka24e (SOHC, '89-90) was originally in the nissan hardbody, yes. it has two injectors and is a waste of space, making 130hp. however, the ka24de (DOHC '91-'98) has four injectors, and is relatively efficient, making 155hp and 160tq, while at the same time allowing for decent gas mileage (i went on a roadtrip down to sarasota a few years ago, and averaged 29mpg). it has been used in several nissans over the years, including the Altima (with a fwd tranny) and several trucks and SUV's, including the Xterra, in which it was the base model engine all the way up to 2001. multivehicle engine application is a common Nissan practice.. just look at the VQ35DE, which you'll find in everything from the Murano to the 350z
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wow. big noob here. they dont make any bolt on turbo kits for our cars, and if your seriously planning on boosting an f22, forget about it. either do a SERIOUS engine swap, or sell your car and get something else. cl's just aren't racecars. youll end up spending a lot more money building an f22, or any inline 4 for that matter, than just getting a fast car to start with.

go with a v6 if powers what you want.
custom made kits, and accord kits with some modifcation do just fine.
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yes, but thats still custom. just my personal opinion, i dont think its worth it to boost an inline 4. hopefully by the end of this school year ill have an is300 or 350z. maybe wrx.
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custom made kits, and accord kits with some modifcation do just fine.
There are plenty of accord kits that will fit with only slight mods
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yes, but thats still custom. just my personal opinion, i dont think its worth it to boost an inline 4. hopefully by the end of this school year ill have an is300 or 350z. maybe wrx.
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2125702
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onwed by the 5min edit.

not having a turbo kit isnt the end of the world. in fact most people piece there own turbo systems together, cuz most aftermarket kits arent for huge power numbers.
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the reason why turbo "kits" restrict you from those gains is because of their makeshift fuel delivery and lack of ems.


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