Acura's Small Crossover Will Be Called the ADX (motor1.com)

 

Looks like it was delayed. Back in January, ADX was announced as 2024 availability, now announced as early 2025 availability.

Also noticed that it is turbocharged, which likely means a hybrid isn't coming as I had otherwise hoped.

 

It's probably a good thing they pushed it back, could be finalizing the design and electronics. Since there have been no sightings of this model anywhere or even the customary "protoype", we are just going to have to speculate. Given that it's a gateway to the SUV lineup to give a model below the $40K price point, I don't expect it to be far below that. Acura is being coy using the turbocharged hint, it will be a tier above the Integra with the competition for this priced at or slightly above $40K, the ADX is likely to start at $38K. As for the turbocharged hint it's likely the 2.0T, since the ADX will likely build off the nostalgia of the 1st generation RDX. Acura also hinted that this would not be a version of any current Honda production model, so I wouldn't doubt it's something truly unique being the first of its namesake. Acura's tendency to make tweener models will put it in line with the segment top sellers (XT4, GLB, and XC40), the 10AT is definitely going to be in the cards.

 

Seems like to keep it simple for the ADX:
- most likely based off the 2nd gen HR-V
- 1.5T the only engine choice
- CVT and no 6MT option
- prices +/- $38,000 range for base, tech, and maybe an ASpec model (no Adv, hybrid, PHEV, or 2.0T Type-S versions)
- no sh-awd (option for CR-V slip-n-grip system)

Acura will probably save the hybrid, plug-in hybrid, or electric ADX for the Asian markets.

 

"Acura says this is an entirely new vehicle, and not a version of a product sold in other countries."

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/acu...v-updates.html

That's just one of the articles that line was pulled from back in January when the model was announced. I said it deliberately in my earlier post, since it seems no one actually looks for other sources. It will be based on the GCP with Civic, Integra, HRV (ZRV in other countries) and CRV but the platform could be modified like they did with the RDX on the old C platform. Besides that brands that are throwing CVTs in premium SUVs is wasting money, UX nor QX50/55 models aren't flying off lots. People who are actually shopping this segment don't need a family hauler but they want similar equipment to similar to the flagship models. If this thing has the 1.5T/CVT under its hood, Acura might as well not even bother. They can barely move CVT equipped Integras and which it will probably be dropped or the transmission replaced in the next year or so if they keep it around. The three top sellers I mentioned carry 9AT, 8DCT, and 8AT tied to 2.0T engines. You're even looking at 2.0Ts as base engines in the Compass, while at $32K Mazda offers the 2.5T, so Acura better not slack thinking it's going to get away with anything less in the US and Canada that are brands major markets. The Integra would have been selling at far greater volume had they not limited it to the choices their product planners came up with.

 

It seems like the small CUV field in the $32,000 to $42,000 range is extremely crowded from luxury, near luxury, and non-luxury from Ford, GM, Dodge, Jeep, Mazda, Lexus, Honda, etc... I'm not sure how Acura will stand out offering "less for more" without having some type of hybrid/PHEV option in the mid-upper $30,000 range? Precision crafted, Acurawatch, Acuralink, and wireless Carplay ain't gonna cut it now days.

 

Pretty much every article on the ADX states it's based on the Integra.

 

Civic, HRV, and Integra are all based on the same Honda global small car platform.

 

What you're referring to is the opinion of writers based on Acura's past and all the articles that say that are look plagiarized. Most are word for word, not direct responses from Acura spokespeople back in January at the dealer meeting for future product.

 

No cares about Acura anymore.

 

^ This.

Every single thing they put out is a total yawn fest. The only ones that are remotely interesting are the new MDX without the stupid touchpad and the ITS.

The TLX-S and MDX-S would be a home run if they actually gave them some balls.

 

 

Here's the entire silhouette. Hopefully someone can brighten it up more.

 

Where did you find this picture? If I get an HD version I can definitely edit it to show details

 

Click on the photos tab below:

https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...he-acura-brand

 

The only picture they have is a close up of the rear.

 

so here’s my take on brightening it. From the looks of it it seems that the ADX will have wider front tacked on fenders.

 

It's a smaller RDX so basically an HRV with some leather seats. Nothing to get super pumped about.

 

That's what it sounds like but I guess we will have to reserve final judgement until all the details are released and final.

 

HRV in a tux, much like the ILX was a Civic in a suit.

 

The photo came in an email from Acura.com, so I was surprised that no one had put it out already.

 

I mean the likes of Q3, UX, X1, GLA, etc, aren't really exciting cars. But these seem to sell well enough that every manufacturer has one.

 

This is going to sell like hotcakes. The biggest knock on the current HRV is that it is slow as molasses. The 1.5T will fix that problem, even if the hybrid powertrain would have been even better.

The previous HRV was absolutely a penalty box that felt cheap and tinny. The new one actually feels properly built (no surprise since it's now based on the awesome Civic platform instead of the old Fit platform). That should give the ADX a really great starting point. It's just up to Acura not to fumble it away.

 

I never received that email. I figured it could have been because of the way it was done.

 

I was curious, if Acura was going to use 1.5T/CVT couldn't they pair it with the hybrid system? Technically, I don't see anything stopping them from doing this for Acura if they just want to dress up the Civic and HRV so they could at least keep pace on performance with the X1/X2, Q3, GLA/GLB, Countryman, etc.

 

Acura rarely (eg: never except for the NSX) puts a turbo and hybrid in the same car. Hybrid & Turbo serve the same purpose, add-on power when needed for launch, so they could otherwise undersize the engine to meet emissions requirements. So I doubt Acura would do both for an ADX, that would price it out of the target market.

They could do an either-or per model: their new Marysville flex-line is supposed to be able to flip from ICE to Hybrid to EV on any given week, so they could more dynamically react to market needs. But that would require them to pivot from their "Acura will skip Hybrids and become EV only" strategy, it is clearly the right thing for them to do but they haven't publicly announced that yet. My guess is that they have two powertrain roadmap scenarios chosen based on presidential election results, and they will announce soon after the election.

 

Mods, is the News section being eliminated?

 

they transferred everything to ADX 1st gen. So now it’s its own Forum

 

That's obvious but that hasn't ever happened (move away from the News section) as far as I know for any other vehicle.

 

not sure then.

 

So based on past Acura teasers before reveals, I’m assuming that the ADX will be unveiled either early November or at the LA Auto Show which probably makes the most sense.

 

We can thank our friends at TFLCar.com for this spyshot.

 

few things to note right off the bat, the body line that runs through the door handle reminds me of the TLX, Wheels look great. Dual exposed exhaust is nice given I have only one on my 23’ HR-V. I believe this is an AWD based on how the exhaust is routed underneath. If it didn’t have AWD then it would go down the middle.

 

Does this compete with the X1/UX300/Q3?

X1 M35i is quite nice. Hope a Type S model can compete.

 

It’ll be slower but cheaper and bigger than the competition, which is essentially the same formula as the Integra. Unfortunately I suspect the chances of a Type S is close to nil.

The Integra is about 200-250lb heavier than the Civic it’s based on. The HRV is already about 3300lb, so we’re looking at a roughly 3500lb crossover with the same powertrain as the Integra that’s about 400lb lighter. We’re likely looking at 0-60 in the high 7s range which lags behind most of the competition and far far far behind the base X1. Fortunately, people looking for an entry level subcompact premium crossover probably care more about space, price, and fuel efficiency than they do about power and speed.

 

And these people will likely purchase a Lexus NX.

 

Thanks for sharing. Based on this picture, it looks big the ADX. Almost like an RDX

If Honda/Acura applies the same formula as Integra - more spacious than the competition, priced reasonable lower and has the premium touch. It will be a success and it will sell 2X-3X more than the X1, Q3 and GLA. Right now, Teggy's sales numbers are down but still higher than the competition.

YTD sales numbers:
Integra: 16.7K units sold
Q3: 8.4K units sold
2 Series: 10K units sold
CLA: 8.3K units sold

Let's wait and see the space, performance, fuel and etc.

 

I think NX is very expensive and competes more with Germans than even RDX and GV70 (in terms of pricing). At least in Canada, the NX prices are pretty steep. ADX will not be on the same price range. A fully load NX cost CAD$82K vs CAD$76K for RDX.

 

The NX starts at $42k USD. It's near the RDX base price, but still undercuts it by $3k. I foresee the ADX starting in the high $30s.

 

wow that's nice!

Integra base (A-SPEC - Auto) starts at CAD$42.5K vs. RDX base (standard SHAWD) starts at $56.5K in Canada. If ADX starts in the high 30s in the US. It will be around CAD$45K here as the Lexus UX starts at $46.5K.