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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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Hey, I like the ILX. But that makes me a weirdo I guess.

The magazine ad sucks, though. WTF?

6MT with the 2.4l engine would make a fun, luxurious little daily driver that sips on gas. Of course, my S2000 gets similar mileage, has a drop top, and screams to 9k rpm.
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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by neuronbob
Hey, I like the ILX. But that makes me a weirdo I guess.

The magazine ad sucks, though. WTF?

6MT with the 2.4l engine would make a fun, luxurious little daily driver that sips on gas. Of course, my S2000 gets similar mileage, has a drop top, and screams to 9k rpm.




And honda doesn't make them anymore.

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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by neuronbob
Hey, I like the ILX. But that makes me a weirdo I guess.
weirdo. I actually like the ILX a lot - the design is really good, even more impressive considering the building block they used. It's just the drive train choice that they decided to go with that is disappoints. And while the earth dream tech will surely show up eventually, it begs the question as to why not just wait until then to release the (better) ILX? The TSX is doing fine holding the entry level gate open.
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 11:27 AM
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^ because it was based on the Civic and that platform has a limited lifespan. Also, at the MMC they can trumpet all of the improvements in the drivetrain.
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 11:44 AM
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^ because it was based on the Civic and that platform has a limited lifespan. Also, at the MMC they can trumpet all of the improvements in the drivetrain.
this is where I think they are mismanaging the brand. why wait until MMC? just come out of the gate swinging.
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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^ the Germans carry over drivetrains at FMC all the time - Honda thinks it can get away with it too. It would be worse to rush the ED drivetrain and get it wrong than to wait a year or two.
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 01:56 PM
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this is where I think they are mismanaging the brand. why wait until MMC? just come out of the gate swinging.
An Acura rep already stated that they are not waiting until the MMC to give the ILX the ED engines. It will get the engines as soon as they are available. Why weren't they available from the start? Maybe they were supposed to be but were delayed because of the tsunami. I expect to see them in the next MY.
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 05:55 PM
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^ the Germans carry over drivetrains at FMC all the time - Honda thinks it can get away with it too. It would be worse to rush the ED drivetrain and get it wrong than to wait a year or two.
I think the sales #'s so far say otherwise. with the projected forecast they should be selling over 3K each month. Now with the first full month, usually sales #'s peak due to novelty as an advantage, and then either remain steady (if it's a hit) or slow down. but that didn't happen
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by phile
I think the sales #'s so far say otherwise. with the projected forecast they should be selling over 3K each month. Now with the first full month, usually sales #'s peak due to novelty as an advantage, and then either remain steady (if it's a hit) or slow down. but that didn't happen
Or it could follow the same route as the 1st gen TSX which started off slowly for the first few months, but then had a consistent, progressive increase in sales as more and more people learned about the car.
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 10:04 PM
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Uh huh, yeah sure.
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 10:10 PM
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Uh huh, yeah sure.
LOL so predictable.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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Edmund's 2013 Acura ILX Hybrid Track Test

Acura's newest model, the ILX, is aimed squarely at attracting younger buyers to the Acura brand. Acura's already attacked the drivers of the segment with the ILX 2.4 and its straight-from-a-Civic-Si powertrain, and now it's aiming at the green set with the 2013 Acura ILX Hybrid.

The Hybrid swaps out the fan-favorite 2.4-liter inline-4 and six-speed manual transmission for a 1.5-liter four-pot backed by an electric motor and a CVT (continuously variable transmission). This results in a 90-hp drop, but a significant improvement in fuel economy. The 2013 Acura ILX Hybrid returns 39 city/38 highway mpg and a combined EPA rating of 38 mpg.

But is it any good to drive? We took it to the track to find out.

Vehicle: 2013 Acura ILX Hybrid with Technology Package
Odometer: 2,876
Date: 7/3/2012
Driver: Chris Walton
Price: $35,295 (price as tested)

Specifications:
Drive Type: Front engine, front-wheel drive
Transmission Type: CVT
Engine Type: Naturally aspirated, port-injected inline-4
Displacement (cc/cu-in): 1,497/91.4
Redline (rpm): 6,000
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 111 @ 5,500
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm): 127 @ 1,000
Brake Type (front): 10.3-inch ventilated discs with single-piston sliding calipers
Brake Type (rear): 10.2-inch solid discs with single-piston sliding calipers
Suspension Type(front): Independent MacPherson struts, coil springs, twin-tube dampers, stabilizer bar
Suspension Type (rear): Independent multilink, coil springs, twin-tube dampers, stabilizer bar
Tire Size (front): P205/55R16 (89H)
Tire Size (rear): P205/55R16 (89H)
Tire Brand: Continental
Tire Model: ContiProContact
Tire Type: All-season
As tested Curb Weight (lb): 2,960

Test Results:
Acceleration
0-30 (sec): 3.8 (3.9 w/ TC on)
0-45 (sec): 6.5 (6.6 w/ TC on)
0-60 (sec): 10.4 (10.5 w/ TC on)
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 10.0 (10.1 w/ TC on)
0-75 (sec): 16.2 (16.2 w/ TC on)
1/4-Mile (sec @ mph): 17.6 @ 77.9 (17.7 @ 78.2 w/ TC on)

Braking
30-0 (ft): 31
60-0 (ft): 129

Handling
Slalom (mph): 63.6 (61.0 w/ESC ON)
Skid Pad Lateral Acceleration (g): 0.81 (0.77 w/TC on)
Db @ Idle: 38.0 (engine off)
Db @ Full Throttle: 74.1
Db @ 70 mph Cruise: 69.1
RPM @ 70: 2,250

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Acceleration: The ILX benefits only slightly from Trac Off and generous pedal overlap to keep the engine running at launch. Drive is the quickest/fastest mode — S and Manual shift modes are slower because they insert artificial gearchanges into the CVT's otherwise near-redline quarter-mile passes.

Braking: Normal jump-in with normal driving disappears with a "panic" stop where the car feels as if it didn't begin braking in earnest until 45-0 (just like the non-hybrid ILX). First stop was the shortest and the pedal went slightly softer by the fourth stop, where it tracked straight, but distance grew by 4-5 feet.

Handling:
Skid pad:With ESC Off, the ILX feels well balanced and begins a mild understeer condition that only requires throttle steering — I never moved my hands at all. Steering is pretty isolated with linear buildup, but doesn't feel like numb EPS per se. With ESC On it begins to allow the same amount of understeer, but closes throttle shy of howling tires.

Slalom: Slow-ish steering response (a little numb, too), moderate yaw reaction, but it feels stable and predictable nonetheless. With ESC Off, the car is neutral and wants to be chucked past each cone, but the tires won't cash that check and only allow predictable breakaway at a fairly low threshold. ESC On snubbed understeer with fairly heavy-handed (and loud) individual brake application. Effective but obviously conservative settings.
http://www.insideline.com/acura/ilx/...rack-test.html
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 11:53 AM
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Yup, $34k for a 110hp car that does 0-60mph in 10s. What a joke.

Should have brought back the previous hybrid accord powertrain....
Give it a few tweaks, along with the lighter curb weight of the ILX and that would be a fast, fuel efficient car that is worthy of the price tag.

Power: 255 hp
Torque: 240 lbft
Weight: 3050lb (~90lb more than current ILX hybrid)
Price: $35k
0-60: 6s
1/4 mile: 14.5@98mph

That's much better than.

Power: 111 hp
Torque: 127 lbft
Weight: 2960lb
Price: $35k
0-60: 10s
1/4 mile: 17.6@78mph

And yes, I do think a J series would fit in the the ILX as the J series is one of the smallest V6's out there. Besides, people have been swapping J series into EK Civic for a while....
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Yup, $34k for a 110hp car that does 0-60mph in 10s. What a joke.

Should have brought back the previous hybrid accord powertrain....
Give it a few tweaks, along with the lighter curb weight of the ILX and that would be a fast, fuel efficient car that is worthy of the price tag.

Power: 255 hp
Torque: 240 lbft
Weight: 3050lb (~90lb more than current ILX hybrid)
Price: $35k
0-60: 6s
1/4 mile: 14.5@98mph

That's much better than.

Power: 111 hp
Torque: 127 lbft
Weight: 2960lb
Price: $35k
0-60: 10s
1/4 mile: 17.6@78mph

And yes, I do think a J series would fit in the the ILX as the J series is one of the smallest V6's out there. Besides, people have been swapping J series into EK Civic for a while....
Those performance stats

No sane person would truly buy one after test driving that.... would they? Those numbers are eerily close to the Mazda2's but I don't see it being nearly as fun to drive. I hope this thing gets north of 50 mpg in the real world.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 01:10 PM
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It probably gets way better than that in the real world if the Insight and CR-Z anecdotal evidence are to be considered. But still not worth ~35K IMO.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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Does it also have a smaller trunk and no folding rear seat? I'm still waiting for a hybrid sedan that retains all the trunk space of the non-hybrid car.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Yup, $34k for a 110hp car that does 0-60mph in 10s. What a joke.

Should have brought back the previous hybrid accord powertrain....
Give it a few tweaks, along with the lighter curb weight of the ILX and that would be a fast, fuel efficient car that is worthy of the price tag.

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Honda got burnt once by this 3L-V6 hybrid powertrain on the poor-selling 7G Accord. This large-displacement V6 hybrid was neither a performance-oriented hybrid nor a fuel-efficiency-oriented hybrid.

Honda won't make the same mistake twice.

The future Honda hybrid powertrain will either be a large-displacement V6 hybrid with 3 electric motors for all-out performance, or a small-displacement I4 hybrid for extended fuel economy.
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 12:29 PM
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Does it also have a smaller trunk and no folding rear seat? I'm still waiting for a hybrid sedan that retains all the trunk space of the non-hybrid car.
dunno about smaller trunk but the folding rear seat is 100% folding not 60/40 like the TSX.
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Costco
Those performance stats

No sane person would truly buy one after test driving that.... would they? Those numbers are eerily close to the Mazda2's but I don't see it being nearly as fun to drive. I hope this thing gets north of 50 mpg in the real world.
Worse than Lexus CT200h. At least the CT has more useful cargo space and the Lexus badge.

Originally Posted by phile
It probably gets way better than that in the real world if the Insight and CR-Z anecdotal evidence are to be considered. But still not worth ~35K IMO.
+1

Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
Honda got burnt once by this 3L-V6 hybrid powertrain on the poor-selling 7G Accord. This large-displacement V6 hybrid was neither a performance-oriented hybrid nor a fuel-efficiency-oriented hybrid.

Honda won't make the same mistake twice.

The future Honda hybrid powertrain will either be a large-displacement V6 hybrid with 3 electric motors for all-out performance, or a small-displacement I4 hybrid for extended fuel economy.
Yes, I know, which is kinda sad IMO. I personally quite like the idea of the Accord V6 hybrid. It's a shame Honda didn't do enough to differentiate it from the regular V6 model. At the very least though, the previous Accord hybrid drove like an actual car...not like an appliance...

With that said, I'd think that sort of powertrain is more suitable for Acura and will help build the sporty image with the right package. Performance will be guaranteed. 30mpg combined is quite decent too. Make the package sportier and I'd definitely consider one. I am actually thinking about getting a used 7G Accord hybrid but I can't get past its boring styling and the lack of sportiness.
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou

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With that said, I'd think that sort of powertrain is more suitable for Acura and will help build the sporty image with the right package. Performance will be guaranteed. 30mpg combined is quite decent too. Make the package sportier and I'd definitely consider one. I am actually thinking about getting a used 7G Accord hybrid but I can't get past its boring styling and the lack of sportiness.
Honda is never keen on putting large displacement engines in small sedans, even for the premium Acura division. Otherwise, we would already have Acura versions of the M3, RS3, and IS-F fighters.
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 12:03 PM
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Yes...which is why it's disappointing......sigh...
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 05:08 AM
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Acura ILX All Access Ride and Drive event
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 09:28 AM
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SF is coming up, but no thanks. Nice find though!
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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Recall already?

Statement by American Honda Regarding Front Door Latch Recall: 2012 Honda CR-V and 2013 Acura ILX

07/18/2012 - TORRANCE, Calif.

American Honda will voluntarily recall approximately 166,000 model-year 2012 CR-V vehicles and approximately 6,200 model-year 2013 Acura ILX vehicles in the United States to replace both front door latches and, in some CR-V vehicles, the interior front door handles. Simultaneous operation of the driver's or passenger's inner door handle and either the manual or power door lock may result in the inner door handle release cable becoming partially disengaged. When this occurs the door may not latch when closed and/or the door may latch and close, but then open when the door locks are operated; either case may result in the affected door opening unexpectedly. No accidents or injuries have been reported related to this issue.

Honda is announcing this recall to encourage owners of all affected vehicles to take their vehicles to an authorized dealer as soon as they receive notification of this recall from Honda. Mailed notification to customers will begin in mid-August 2012. In mid-August, owners of these vehicles also will be able to determine if their vehicles require repair by going on-line to www.recalls.honda.com and www.recalls.acura.com or by calling (800) 999-1009 for Honda owners or (800) 382-2238 for Acura owners, and selecting option 4.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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Can't go to that....my dad wanted to have me.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 06:56 PM
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For reference Motor Trend drove the 2012 Toyota Prius V to a 0-60 time of 10.2 seconds and a 1/4 time of 17.6s @ 78.2mph.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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Can't go to that....my dad wanted to have me.


I'm going on Aug 4th but then again, my parents didn't want me. (luckily - for me anyway - no Roe v Wade back in '68)
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 06:10 PM
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Recall already?
American Honda will voluntarily recall approximately 166,000 model-year 2012 CR-V vehicles and approximately 6,200 model-year 2013 Acura ILX vehicles in the United States to replace both front door latches

I was led to believe that Acura had superior door latches?
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 06:20 PM
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^ just the side view mirrors and ground clearance.
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
I was led to believe that Acura had superior door latches?
Originally Posted by Hapa DC5
^ just the side view mirrors and ground clearance.

You guys have great memory
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 12:21 PM
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damn wish i saw this earlier.
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 12:51 PM
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damn wish i saw this earlier.
I went to a similar road test even a month ago to test drive the ILX and RDX. Didn't get a chance to sample a ILX 2.4. But I did had the chance to the drive the ILX 2.0 AT a few laps around the test track. For the laps which I drove hard, yes, it's slow like a TSX 2.4 5AT. Handling was decent. No real surprises. For the laps which I drove in a more relaxed manner, I felt that the car was quite quiet, had enough power to get going, and the car in general felt more comfortable. Certainly felt way more expensive than a Civic. It feels like a smaller TSX.
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Old Aug 6, 2012 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
I went to a similar road test even a month ago to test drive the ILX and RDX. Didn't get a chance to sample a ILX 2.4. But I did had the chance to the drive the ILX 2.0 AT a few laps around the test track. For the laps which I drove hard, yes, it's slow like a TSX 2.4 5AT. Handling was decent. No real surprises. For the laps which I drove in a more relaxed manner, I felt that the car was quite quiet, had enough power to get going, and the car in general felt more comfortable. Certainly felt way more expensive than a Civic. It feels like a smaller TSX.
Just having check out this event on Saturday, . (I only drove the 6MT model, with no interest in trying the AT model. The wifey wasn't interested in driving any ILX model.)

It's not a horrible car, being inoffensively styled and generally efficient. But, it wont do much for the Acura lineup.
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Old Aug 6, 2012 | 02:29 PM
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i sat in my friends ILX from the impression i had with just sitting in it when it was parked in the garage was nice. I really did like the interior. It seemed pretty upscale for anything else you get in that price that I can think of.
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 11:53 AM
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Yea, it feels quite decent inside and the ride is smooth - something I'd expect from a mid-size sedan.

Put the proper powertrains in and axe or move the TSX higher up and the ILX should do well IMO.
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 11:55 AM
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At the Acura Stealership getting my 07 TL serviced... I think I'd rather pay the 3500 difference and go up to this TSX than the ILX...

Finally saw this ILX thing in person and I must say
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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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ILX Endurance Racer Concept: http://www.netcarshow.com/acura/2013...durance_racer/




ILX Street Build Concept: http://www.netcarshow.com/acura/2012...build_concept/

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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ttribe
Looks pretty sharp with the wheels and drop.

Even better with the supercharger.
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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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Looks pretty sharp with the wheels and drop.

Even better with the supercharger.
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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 12:29 PM
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Looks even more Civic in SEMA garb.
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