Ingalls or SPC rear camber kit ?
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Ingalls or SPC rear camber kit ?
Trying to decide on which camber kit to get. I know the ingalls give toe/camber adjustment. I was just wondering about whether there is a quality difference between the two. Is it really necessary to have the extra toe adjustment of the ingalls ?
Eibach kit. I had the ingalls. The bushing donut over time. not sure about SPC it looks like the Eibach one also. I accidentlt bought 2.. not realizing that one box was enough. So don't trust the generic pictures.
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Yeah my alignment was way out of spec-- toe was like at 2. So they the alignment shop told me to fix the Toe they will have to make the camber worse. It really killed my tires in the rear. 20k miles and the wires are coming out of 1 of my tires.
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Find another shop..never heard u have to make your camber worse...especially that much camber to get the toe right....if u align it every 6k miles or so to keep toe in check u should get more miles out of it...
SPC = same company as Eibach or knock off of Eibach? damn they are 150 also.. Screw that I am glad I got the Eibach. If Eibach can make springs and swap bar I am sure they know how to make camber kit also.
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Stock you have toe adjustment , with the SPC type your adding camber adjustment on the top.
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The INGALLS rear kit is a better kit; it gives you toe and camber adjustment for the same price as the Eibach/SPC. By the way, Eibach is just SPC re-branded. We have never had any quality issues on the INGALLS kits and we sell and install a lot of them.
Here is a link to them (you need a qty of 2 if ordering):
http://store.excelerateperformance.c...5/i-60220.aspx
Here is a link to them (you need a qty of 2 if ordering):
http://store.excelerateperformance.c...5/i-60220.aspx
Here are pix from my friends car. He doesn't track and only has tien s techs
Mine were way worst... So OEM arm and eibach ftw in my case
Mine were way worst... So OEM arm and eibach ftw in my case
Last edited by thisaznboi88; Feb 6, 2012 at 08:37 PM.
If you do your own alignments, SPC doesn't affect toe when you adjust your camber. And most cars depending on arm placement, camber adjustment affects toe. Just an FYI. Had my SPC camber kit for about 6 months and no issues so far.
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What did you end up buying? I'm currently shopping for a rear camber kit myself.
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jebus, thats some crap. how long have those kits been installed? are those bushings really soft rubber or something? maybe I dont want the ingalls kits after all.
25k. I end up buying the eibach one from the TL and then it didn't fit... So I picked up the ebay jpower one which are the ingall knock off. If they donut again its only 75 bucks instead of 120 for each side from ingalls. Really disappointed but shit happens. Life goes on
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why not have bushings made for ingalls stuff? or see if you can find es bushings that will work in the ends. what did you do with ingalls arms??
im having some bushings made for an old ingalls anchor bolt camber kit for up front. still waiting on quote for final price, but Im hoping its not to much.
im having some bushings made for an old ingalls anchor bolt camber kit for up front. still waiting on quote for final price, but Im hoping its not to much.
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I will be selling my ingalls setup soon. Hit me up. I bought the SPC to run more camberrrrrr.
^i told you! just do it right and put both upper and lower arms for more adjustments.
are u getting the skunk2 fronts? I'm doing this on my current set up but funds are kinda low right now. let me know how it goes man
are u getting the skunk2 fronts? I'm doing this on my current set up but funds are kinda low right now. let me know how it goes man
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Anakalia, how much camber you looking to run up front?
I have the camber arms already and they allowed me just enough camber up front. Others have stated that they only got -1.5 camber from them.
I will post back when i get my alignment....I had the original settings at -.5 front camber and -1.5 rear. Just installed 19x9.5 +22 all around and adjusted my camber arms all the way in in the front. Like I said it was "enough" to work. Won't know actual #'s until my alignment though.
I have the camber arms already and they allowed me just enough camber up front. Others have stated that they only got -1.5 camber from them.
I will post back when i get my alignment....I had the original settings at -.5 front camber and -1.5 rear. Just installed 19x9.5 +22 all around and adjusted my camber arms all the way in in the front. Like I said it was "enough" to work. Won't know actual #'s until my alignment though.
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Anakalia, how much camber you looking to run up front?
I have the camber arms already and they allowed me just enough camber up front. Others have stated that they only got -1.5 camber from them.
I will post back when i get my alignment....I had the original settings at -.5 front camber and -1.5 rear. Just installed 19x9.5 +22 all around and adjusted my camber arms all the way in in the front. Like I said it was "enough" to work. Won't know actual #'s until my alignment though.
I have the camber arms already and they allowed me just enough camber up front. Others have stated that they only got -1.5 camber from them.
I will post back when i get my alignment....I had the original settings at -.5 front camber and -1.5 rear. Just installed 19x9.5 +22 all around and adjusted my camber arms all the way in in the front. Like I said it was "enough" to work. Won't know actual #'s until my alignment though.
sorry! yep let us know! did u get your skunk2s hellaflush? the modified ones? i think it allows you up to -3 camber..
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I just got the skunk 2 front camber kit, and they are very good. I got them from heeltoe $269, they are on sale go check them out!!!!
Full article:
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/tech-arti...l-joints..html
Originally Posted by mrheeltoe
I had a customer in today, 05 TSX with some Tein Basics set at a 13.5″ height all around (measured from center of center cap to fender lips). The camber in the rear was corrected with an SPC camber kit, also sold under the CT or Comptech name.
Some of you know from reading our posts and such over the years that we recommend the Ingalls brand of camber kits for the rear on a TSX/TL/CL/Accord. And this post is to tell you why.
Because the arms mentioned, in addition to those sold by Megan Racing and Eibach, all replace the upper arm in the rear to an adjustable part. The rear upper arm that these kits replace on these cars contains a ball-joint to attach it to the rear hub carrier.
The problem with replacing the stock arm with an aftermarket one is that the stock ball-joints have really high quality rubber on the boots, and are deigned to work within a specific range of motion. Because aftermarket ball-joint boots are of inferior material, and are subjected to altered range of motion (when installed on a lowered car), the boots tend to become brittle and they brake after a while.
Full article:
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/tech-arti...l-joints..html
Some of you know from reading our posts and such over the years that we recommend the Ingalls brand of camber kits for the rear on a TSX/TL/CL/Accord. And this post is to tell you why.
Because the arms mentioned, in addition to those sold by Megan Racing and Eibach, all replace the upper arm in the rear to an adjustable part. The rear upper arm that these kits replace on these cars contains a ball-joint to attach it to the rear hub carrier.
The problem with replacing the stock arm with an aftermarket one is that the stock ball-joints have really high quality rubber on the boots, and are deigned to work within a specific range of motion. Because aftermarket ball-joint boots are of inferior material, and are subjected to altered range of motion (when installed on a lowered car), the boots tend to become brittle and they brake after a while.
Full article:
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/tech-arti...l-joints..html
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I will be keeping my suspension stock. Only adding rear camber kits because of eating tires on the inside. Has anyone experience noise with installing Ingalls rear camber/toe kits on stock suspensions?
Don't waste your money on a camber kit if that is your problem. Most likely you have a bad alignment (toe is off) and/or your rear shocks are worn causing excess droop and cycling of the suspension (both of which affect toe).
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I feel pretty comfortable with the last person who done my alignment. The right rear set to 0 toe and camber was -1.8. The left rear is set 0 toe and camber was -1.6. The front was within honda spec. I will go back to dealer to get a copy of alignment spec. and post.
I'm just ready try something else after eating up every tire after oem tire on the inside rear mainly on the right. Did use my local honda dealer where an experience honda tech this trip. No apparent damage or excessive wear to other part of the suspension according to tech.
Still dont have any comments about whether there will any suspension noise because of camber kits installation....
Just want to start off in spec and go from there.
I wont doubt that, but minimal back seat riders. Nothing extra in trucks, maybe 5-10lbs totals except on vacations we took when the car was basically brand new.
I feel pretty comfortable with the last person who done my alignment. The right rear set to 0 toe and camber was -1.8. The left rear is set 0 toe and camber was -1.6. The front was within honda spec. I will go back to dealer to get a copy of alignment spec. and post.
I'm just ready try something else after eating up every tire after oem tire on the inside rear mainly on the right. Did use my local honda dealer where an experience honda tech this trip. No apparent damage or excessive wear to other part of the suspension according to tech.
Still dont have any comments about whether there will any suspension noise because of camber kits installation....
Just want to start off in spec and go from there.
I feel pretty comfortable with the last person who done my alignment. The right rear set to 0 toe and camber was -1.8. The left rear is set 0 toe and camber was -1.6. The front was within honda spec. I will go back to dealer to get a copy of alignment spec. and post.
I'm just ready try something else after eating up every tire after oem tire on the inside rear mainly on the right. Did use my local honda dealer where an experience honda tech this trip. No apparent damage or excessive wear to other part of the suspension according to tech.
Still dont have any comments about whether there will any suspension noise because of camber kits installation....
Just want to start off in spec and go from there.
Toe is supposed to be 2mm Toe IN according to FSM...
Your toe is off, which is causing excess tire wear, don't think that all tech's know what they are talking about...
Think you should read up some more before spending the loot on camber kits which won't really help your situation....
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-tires-wheels-suspension-97/alignment-procedures-service-manual-574027/
Not trying to be an ass, but Marcus (Mrheeltoe) is sending you in the right direction, rather than taking your money and laughing...