GM Synchromesh Availability/Alternative?
#1
GM Synchromesh Availability/Alternative?
Been seeing a lot of users commenting that GM Synchomesh friction modified fluid is no longer available. I would like to change my transmission fluid on my 6MT today and am wondering what others have been using if they were unable to find this?
I plan on going to Autozone to pick up the fluid, so idk what other options they will have. Thanks.
I plan on going to Autozone to pick up the fluid, so idk what other options they will have. Thanks.
#2
i suggest you order online and get the GM syncromesh friction modified.
the GMSFM is pretty good and the new honda fluid comes in 2nd.
if you must do it today, go to several GM dealerships to see if they have it.
if not, head to honda to pick up their new revised fluid.
I advise you to read this thread.https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/where-buy-synchromesh-friction-modified-online-784282/
The GM fluid is simply better. PERIOD. you're going to regret it if you put in autozone fluid....
ALso there are tons TONS TONS TONS of threads on this.
do you homework before hand, that way when the time comes to change out fluid you're not stuck in abind, like you are now.
the GMSFM is pretty good and the new honda fluid comes in 2nd.
if you must do it today, go to several GM dealerships to see if they have it.
if not, head to honda to pick up their new revised fluid.
I advise you to read this thread.https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/where-buy-synchromesh-friction-modified-online-784282/
I heard that too, and any other members please correct me if I'm thinking the wrong "new" fluid.
There is a newer transmission fluid that Acura/Honda uses, but there are threads that can be found on this board along with other Honda boards where the feedback is simply its an improvement but it doesn't perform as well as the GM Friction Modified. Seems most stand behind the gm friction modified fluid. Hence I opted to purchase it too.
There is a newer transmission fluid that Acura/Honda uses, but there are threads that can be found on this board along with other Honda boards where the feedback is simply its an improvement but it doesn't perform as well as the GM Friction Modified. Seems most stand behind the gm friction modified fluid. Hence I opted to purchase it too.
ALso there are tons TONS TONS TONS of threads on this.
do you homework before hand, that way when the time comes to change out fluid you're not stuck in abind, like you are now.
Last edited by justnspace; 01-04-2011 at 01:48 PM.
#3
Just ordered mine from http://www.gmpartsonline.net/ (part# 12377916). I ordered 6qts for just over $60 shipped I'm assuming they're in stock because I got a shipping notification, should be here tomorrow
#4
Just ordered mine from http://www.gmpartsonline.net/ (part# 12377916). I ordered 6qts for just over $60 shipped I'm assuming they're in stock because I got a shipping notification, should be here tomorrow
he's done his homework.
#7
I believe ACDelco carries the exact same fluid that's been relabeled. The ACDelco part number is: 10-4014 88900399.
I want to say ACDelco's fluid is cheaper. Maybe someone can research this and also post where they found it for sale?
I want to say ACDelco's fluid is cheaper. Maybe someone can research this and also post where they found it for sale?
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Here's another site I found where you could order the GM fluid:
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/
It's $0.64 cheaper per quart compared to http://www.gmpartsonline.net/ but I believe you have to buy a box of 6 for that price.
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/
It's $0.64 cheaper per quart compared to http://www.gmpartsonline.net/ but I believe you have to buy a box of 6 for that price.
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#14
And if you had taken couple more mins and looked at the site you suggested. You'd realize even after buying a quantity of 6 quarts, http://gmpartsonline.net is still the cheaper option since shipping is still only $8 shipping.
#15
Called a local GM dealership and the parts manager ran the number and told me the location nearest with any of the fluid was almost an hour away, looks like I'll just be ordering it online and waiting a couple days. Thanks guys.
#16
ACDelco stuff is in Canada, highly doubt you'll find it for sale in the usdm market. Just stick with the GM Fluid, is it really work the headache trying to find the AC Delco stuff for a TL in the usdm?
And if you had taken couple more mins and looked at the site you suggested. You'd realize even after buying a quantity of 6 quarts, http://gmpartsonline.net is still the cheaper option since shipping is still only $8 shipping.
And if you had taken couple more mins and looked at the site you suggested. You'd realize even after buying a quantity of 6 quarts, http://gmpartsonline.net is still the cheaper option since shipping is still only $8 shipping.
Got it. That's why I was posting, hoping someone would do the leg work for me. Thanks!
#18
Got my GM elixir today from a local Chebby dealership. Only cost about $5 bucks more than ordering it online, so I went ahead.
Now I just need a weekend off from work. Won't be this coming weekend so I guess about a week and a half.
3rd gear is really starting to annoy me.....
Now I just need a weekend off from work. Won't be this coming weekend so I guess about a week and a half.
3rd gear is really starting to annoy me.....
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Yes, ACDelco is Canadian.. unless for some reason you guys have it down there.
It's funny... cause ACDelco doesn't entirely "relabel". They just [poorly] stick their label over the GM one lol
I forgot how much it cost me for 3.. but it was somewhere around 40-45 CAD [after a 13% tax].
It's funny... cause ACDelco doesn't entirely "relabel". They just [poorly] stick their label over the GM one lol
I forgot how much it cost me for 3.. but it was somewhere around 40-45 CAD [after a 13% tax].
#22
I just purchased 7 bottles from http://www.gmpartsonline.net/
Items Ordered:
Item: FLUID
Price: $8.83
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 7
Total: $61.81
-----------------------------
Items Total: $61.81
Shipping: $8.00
Handling Fee: $0.00
Order Total: $69.81
Items Ordered:
Item: FLUID
Price: $8.83
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 7
Total: $61.81
-----------------------------
Items Total: $61.81
Shipping: $8.00
Handling Fee: $0.00
Order Total: $69.81
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#25
I'm also planning to change my transmission fluid this week and was about to buy in to this Amsoil advertisment until I saw this on their site:
"Not for use in engines, hypoid rear axles, limited-slip or wet clutch applications."
Is it okay to use? If not Amsoil I'm debating between GM or the new Acura MTF.
"Not for use in engines, hypoid rear axles, limited-slip or wet clutch applications."
Is it okay to use? If not Amsoil I'm debating between GM or the new Acura MTF.
#27
Here's another site I found where you could order the GM fluid:
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/
It's $0.64 cheaper per quart compared to http://www.gmpartsonline.net/ but I believe you have to buy a box of 6 for that price.
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/
It's $0.64 cheaper per quart compared to http://www.gmpartsonline.net/ but I believe you have to buy a box of 6 for that price.
Or is ordering from these websites based just on the part number sufficient?
#28
Same thing when I ordered (gmpartsgiant.com), just said "fluid" with the part #. Didn't call. Order arrived as expected...wouldn't worry about it.
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#29
Neither or these websites seem to give any description when you pull up the part number 12377916. It just says "Fluid". Did you guys need to call at all to confirm its the correct synchromesh MTF fluid?
Or is ordering from these websites based just on the part number sufficient?
Or is ordering from these websites based just on the part number sufficient?
I just purchased 7 bottles from http://www.gmpartsonline.net/
Items Ordered:
Item: FLUID Price: $8.83
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 7
Total: $61.81
-----------------------------
Items Total: $61.81
Shipping: $8.00
Handling Fee: $0.00
Order Total: $69.81
Items Ordered:
Item: FLUID Price: $8.83
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 7
Total: $61.81
-----------------------------
Items Total: $61.81
Shipping: $8.00
Handling Fee: $0.00
Order Total: $69.81
#30
Ok, thanks.
It looks like synchromesh is getting harder to find, at dealers especially.
I guess its becuase there aren't many GM manual vehicles out there? Or is the fluid being discontinued?
I have a 2007 tl-s with 55k miles and the trans is still under warranty to 70k. I'd rather not have a dealer replace the 3rd gear if a different fluid is pretty much the solution. But if there's concern synchromesh might go away in the future, maybe I should try to get the 3rd gear mechanical fix done now. Any thoughts?
It looks like synchromesh is getting harder to find, at dealers especially.
I guess its becuase there aren't many GM manual vehicles out there? Or is the fluid being discontinued?
I have a 2007 tl-s with 55k miles and the trans is still under warranty to 70k. I'd rather not have a dealer replace the 3rd gear if a different fluid is pretty much the solution. But if there's concern synchromesh might go away in the future, maybe I should try to get the 3rd gear mechanical fix done now. Any thoughts?
#31
Ok, thanks.
It looks like synchromesh is getting harder to find, at dealers especially.
I guess its becuase there aren't many GM manual vehicles out there? Or is the fluid being discontinued?
I have a 2007 tl-s with 55k miles and the trans is still under warranty to 70k. I'd rather not have a dealer replace the 3rd gear if a different fluid is pretty much the solution. But if there's concern synchromesh might go away in the future, maybe I should try to get the 3rd gear mechanical fix done now. Any thoughts?
It looks like synchromesh is getting harder to find, at dealers especially.
I guess its becuase there aren't many GM manual vehicles out there? Or is the fluid being discontinued?
I have a 2007 tl-s with 55k miles and the trans is still under warranty to 70k. I'd rather not have a dealer replace the 3rd gear if a different fluid is pretty much the solution. But if there's concern synchromesh might go away in the future, maybe I should try to get the 3rd gear mechanical fix done now. Any thoughts?
Also FYI:
I believe the manual transmission falls under the 100k powertrain warranty.
I thought that acura extended all their powertrain warranties to 100k since the automatic tranny fiasco a few years back...I could be wrong.
#32
Experiences
So does anyone have input about the general consensus regarding synchromesh vs. mechanical repair if your powertrain is still under warranty?
Have people still gone and had the 3rd gear work done because it is under warranty, or just been satisfied with the synchromesh results without having it "fixed" mechanically?
Have people still gone and had the 3rd gear work done because it is under warranty, or just been satisfied with the synchromesh results without having it "fixed" mechanically?
#33
So does anyone have input about the general consensus regarding synchromesh vs. mechanical repair if your powertrain is still under warranty?
Have people still gone and had the 3rd gear work done because it is under warranty, or just been satisfied with the synchromesh results without having it "fixed" mechanically?
Have people still gone and had the 3rd gear work done because it is under warranty, or just been satisfied with the synchromesh results without having it "fixed" mechanically?
Please do a search. Cliff notes: GM fluid 99+% success rate. TSB success rate: less than that.
#34
Here's another site I found where you could order the GM fluid:
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/
It's $0.64 cheaper per quart compared to http://www.gmpartsonline.net/ but I believe you have to buy a box of 6 for that price.
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/
It's $0.64 cheaper per quart compared to http://www.gmpartsonline.net/ but I believe you have to buy a box of 6 for that price.
#36
Anyone use Redline MTL?
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=45&pcid=7
"Popular replacement for and improvement over GM Synchromesh® (#12345349) "
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=45&pcid=7
"Popular replacement for and improvement over GM Synchromesh® (#12345349) "
#38
Yes, ACDelco is Canadian.. unless for some reason you guys have it down there.
It's funny... cause ACDelco doesn't entirely "relabel". They just [poorly] stick their label over the GM one lol
I forgot how much it cost me for 3.. but it was somewhere around 40-45 CAD [after a 13% tax].
It's funny... cause ACDelco doesn't entirely "relabel". They just [poorly] stick their label over the GM one lol
I forgot how much it cost me for 3.. but it was somewhere around 40-45 CAD [after a 13% tax].
#39
I did the fluid last night in my 08 Type S. Instant improvement sooooo smooth in every gear. The slight 3rd gear notichiness is 100% gone. Highly recommend doing this fluid change! I ordered mine from gmpartdirect. Im sure it was available at any one of the local dealers but for more money.
James
James
#40
AC Delco= GM for all intents and purposes. They are GM.
Does anyone know if the GM fluid has more FM or less FM than the Honda fluid?
If the GM stuff has more FM, another option is to use the Honda fluid and add a tube of limited slip differential additive that's designed to stop clutch and cone chatter in LSDs. It should do the same thing as the GM fluid. I would start out with 1/3 tube and try it out and add more if necessary. It's a very cheap alternative that should work very well assuming the GM fluid actually uses more FM to get the nice shifts.
Maybe someone that still has Honda fluid and is about to switch over to the GM fluid can try out a tube before they do the fluid swap and report back.
Does anyone know if the GM fluid has more FM or less FM than the Honda fluid?
If the GM stuff has more FM, another option is to use the Honda fluid and add a tube of limited slip differential additive that's designed to stop clutch and cone chatter in LSDs. It should do the same thing as the GM fluid. I would start out with 1/3 tube and try it out and add more if necessary. It's a very cheap alternative that should work very well assuming the GM fluid actually uses more FM to get the nice shifts.
Maybe someone that still has Honda fluid and is about to switch over to the GM fluid can try out a tube before they do the fluid swap and report back.
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