DIY: ThermoBlok Spacers install / EGR cleaning

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Old 03-31-2007 | 08:28 PM
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DIY: ThermoBlok Spacers install / EGR cleaning

Well my spacer kit came in the mail today and i got right to instaling them.
the time it took me to complete this was about 2 hours going slowly and about 30 min trying to get the old gaskets off .

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first thing is to take the intake, i have a short ram so it was simple to get out, the stock air box is a little more involved. then you are going to want to do is remove everthing conected to the throttle body and intake manifold. make sure plug up the the coolant lines so to minimize coolant lose

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and dont forget this little hose in the back

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after all the hoses and such are off turn your atention to the throttle cables. they are a little dificult to remove.
first thing you will want to take a wrench and loosen the cable mounts

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next pull the throttle back till the butterfly is open, the trick to getting them off is while holding it open, slide the cable out. you will have too see it for yourself its not easy to explain, but its not hard.

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when once you have made sure that everthing is disconected you can go ahead and remove the bolts on the throttle body, there are 4 of them, the one in the back is a little hard to get to, i used a socket extension.

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after all the bolts are off gently pull off the throttle body

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put the throttle body aside
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next up is the intake manifold, just take off these bolts with a 14mm socket and extension

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gently remove the manifold, and make sure that everything is connected again, so you dont pull up with somthing still atached

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with a 10mm socket remove these 3 things and put them aside.

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hear is the infamous EGR port, give that thing and the whole manifold a good spra down with throttle body cleaner. take your time here, it took me 3 cans to get this thing clean, make sure ou hose out all that crap. it was a milky white/brown nastyness it took me about 30 min to get it fully clean. let it dry out in the sun.

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once everything is clean and dry get started on installing the spacers. the bolts will have to come off to be replaced with the longer new ones. the easyest wa is to get some plyers of somthing to grip them with and unscrew them.

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then get the gasket off, it was a pain and time consuming. make sure the gasket is fully off and the surface is clean.

now install the supplyed gasket followed by the spacer and the other suppled gasket
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bolt on the throttle body and torque to 14 - 18 lb-ft DO NOT OVER TORQUE

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now take off the old bolts and install the new bolts just like the throttle body.

clean the surface where the stock gasket was on the lower manifold. the replace the stock gasket followed by the spacer then the suppled gasket.

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now bolt on the manifold with the new bolts, and toruqe them in this order to 16-18 lb-ft DO NOT OVERTOURQE!!

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now replace all the cables and hoses in the reverse order, and if u want use the throttle bosy coolant bypass that was included.
i have to say the spacers were well worth it, i havent floored the car yet, but i definalty feel better responce and MUCH smoother ride with a free flowing egr. the low end power gain is great. the combo off a good cleaning and spacer install brought life back to my car if you have any questions just ask
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Old 03-31-2007 | 08:31 PM
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sweeet write up
Old 03-31-2007 | 08:48 PM
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very nice write up!
Old 04-01-2007 | 07:45 AM
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great writeup!!
Old 04-01-2007 | 10:58 AM
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very good DIY! I did this with about 80000 miles on my car mainly because my EGR port was completely clogged and it threw an engine code. I took off the intake manafold at 110000 also because it was running a little rough and the EGR port was half way clogged again - that little thing gets dirty fast!
Old 04-01-2007 | 05:14 PM
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thanks guys, fyi i have more pics but i only posted a few. if anyone needs a specific pic lemmi know.
Old 04-01-2007 | 06:33 PM
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sweet, since there is now a good write-up, i will consider getting these now
Old 04-01-2007 | 06:51 PM
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sweet great write up............. that is one of the things i was going to do this summer when school is over
thanks
Old 04-02-2007 | 12:27 PM
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I know this is little off topic but what is the spacer made of?
Old 04-02-2007 | 12:44 PM
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Nice write up. Thanks! I'll get some free time and do this myself.
Old 04-02-2007 | 01:15 PM
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DaLine and others

For full tech info on the space age Thermoblock heat insulating spacer block

go to www.outlawengineering.com thats that makers website

Less temp transfer to the intake manifold is a good thing!
Old 04-03-2007 | 01:45 PM
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thanks!
Old 04-04-2007 | 12:30 AM
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sweet, since there is now a good write-up, i will consider getting these now

X2. How did you know what to do? Just look at service manual/other car's diys?
Old 04-04-2007 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mmmmmbarb
X2. How did you know what to do? Just look at service manual/other car's diys?
the instructions are very good. i also searched throught the forums for some pics. i was surprised by how easy this was
Old 05-23-2007 | 08:59 AM
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Just to be clear, you don't have to remove the original lower manifold gasket like you have to remove the original throttle body gasket, right?
Old 05-23-2007 | 10:02 AM
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Just to be clear, you don't have to remove the original lower manifold gasket like you have to remove the original throttle body gasket, right?
you reuse it. its a metal gasket unlike the trottle body gasket. the layer order goes lower manifold->reused gasket->spacer->gasket included in kit->upper manifold
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Originally Posted by AMGala
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Old 05-23-2007 | 12:28 PM
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Very nice write up. Very detailed step by step and clear pictures.
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nice- thanks! Does cleaning the EGR improve gas mileage
Old 05-23-2007 | 02:25 PM
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great writeup
boy im glad i saw this on the front page. it's next on my list to do after i get my headers on.
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BIG thank you for this DIY bro... will be following this for sure in the future!!
Old 05-23-2007 | 02:48 PM
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haha thanks guys, glad i could help. guess its a good thing AMGala brought the thread back to life
Old 05-23-2007 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SSMTL01
nice- thanks! Does cleaning the EGR improve gas mileage
i wouldnt think so unless your egr port was reaaaly dirty. but cleaning the manifold and egr port really did smooth things out, you can tell more air is mooving without any restrictions
Old 05-23-2007 | 03:54 PM
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Installed mine just now using this guide. Good writeup indeed. Thanks for the DIY
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haha thanks guys, glad i could help. guess its a good thing AMGala brought the thread back to life
Glad I could do my part!
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Does anyone happen to know the torque specs for the nuts and bolts on the intake manifold?
Old 05-25-2007 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by cyde7399
Does anyone happen to know the torque specs for the nuts and bolts on the intake manifold?
its in the DIY, 16-18ft lbs and make sure you torqe in the proper order.
Old 05-25-2007 | 10:51 AM
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Proper torque in the correct order as described and then go back and check them all again!
Hand snug each bolt- then the tool and torque wrench to final setting
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Once this was installed, were you able to put the engine cover back on, or does it hit the hood?

Thanks
Old 05-25-2007 | 08:27 PM
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Its only a 1/4 inch thick- no probs with clearance
The engine cover bolts to the manifold and the hood is plenty high above that
Install and enjoy the cooler intake air performance
These days of $#!$ per gal gas- every little bit helps!
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do you feel any difference
Old 06-13-2007 | 09:56 PM
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What is the advantage of the TB spacers and the theory behind it?
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^^^ Read the website. It goes between the engine and intake manifold keeping the intake manifold farther away from the engine block keeping it cooler, allowing cooler air to enter the engine.
Old 09-16-2007 | 02:56 PM
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Removed my intake last week to clean the EGR port and your procedure was the greatest.
Step by step with all the needed info.
THANKS!!
No more check engine light and much better running machine now.
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I'm gonna have to order up these spacers and clear the EGR port and IACV.
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Yup, just ordered them
Hope to get them installed before the dyno day with the local car club.
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only one note -

when removing the studs from the manifold(s), instead of unscrewing them with vice-grips, use a simple technique called "double-nutting."

just screw one nut down, so that you have at least 1.5 times the thickness of a nut's worth of threads left above the first nut. then screw another nut down on top of the first one. use two open-end wrenches to tighten the nuts against one another. then you can just put an open end wrench on one of the nuts and back the stud out.

works like a charm, guaranteed.

otherwise, great write-up.

a question - do these cars have any kind of EGR valve(s), or is it just the port that gets dirty?
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Originally Posted by carl m
only one note -

when removing the studs from the manifold(s), instead of unscrewing them with vice-grips, use a simple technique called "double-nutting."

just screw one nut down, so that you have at least 1.5 times the thickness of a nut's worth of threads left above the first nut. then screw another nut down on top of the first one. use two open-end wrenches to tighten the nuts against one another. then you can just put an open end wrench on one of the nuts and back the stud out.

works like a charm, guaranteed.

otherwise, great write-up.

a question - do these cars have any kind of EGR valve(s), or is it just the port that gets dirty?
Yes there is a EGR valve. It doesnt usually get dirty, just the stupid little ports on teh upper IM
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Ok sorry if this is a total noob question but I'm going to clean the EGR port this weekend, if I had the money for the spacers I'd do em in a heartbeat while this is all apart. But if I take this all apart, am I going to need new gaskets, or can I reuse the old ones?


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