Help deciding 2011 or 2012 MDX??
#1
Help deciding 2011 or 2012 MDX??
Hi guys,
I'm currently an 09' TSX owner looking to get a 2011 or 2012 MDX. Just to clarify I'm keeping my TSX but getting an MDX to replace my wife's honda civic whose transmission decided to quit last week. I've been doing a lot of research and have narrowed down my choices to either a 2011 or 2012 MDX. Based on my research I have read about known issues about excessive oil consumption and some steering wheel vibrations when driving about 70-80MPH. I'm considering the following 3 TECH pkg cars:
1) 2012, 51K Used 2012 Acura MDX Portland P98956
2) 2012, 44K Used 2012 Acura MDX Technology - Low Miles - Warranty - Navigation - Near Portland OR - Ron Tonkin Acura
3) 2011, 62K Used 2011 Acura MDX Portland P99013
Of the three, which do you think would be the better buy, based on cost and mileage? My own thoughts...Number 1, carfax record are decent but it does show the owner used to live in CO so salt corrosion concerns me. Number 2, black interior! I likes!!, still has the powertrain 6 yrs/ 70K warranty, but not much maintenance shown in the carfax. Number 3, decent carfax maintenance, but my concern is that it has the most miles and is the oldest. I live in Seattle but plan on getting the vehicle inspected by an independent 3rd party.
Also for any current owners of these model years, have any of you experienced the vibrations...is it violent or not that bad?
Thank you guys in advance for any responses!
I'm currently an 09' TSX owner looking to get a 2011 or 2012 MDX. Just to clarify I'm keeping my TSX but getting an MDX to replace my wife's honda civic whose transmission decided to quit last week. I've been doing a lot of research and have narrowed down my choices to either a 2011 or 2012 MDX. Based on my research I have read about known issues about excessive oil consumption and some steering wheel vibrations when driving about 70-80MPH. I'm considering the following 3 TECH pkg cars:
1) 2012, 51K Used 2012 Acura MDX Portland P98956
2) 2012, 44K Used 2012 Acura MDX Technology - Low Miles - Warranty - Navigation - Near Portland OR - Ron Tonkin Acura
3) 2011, 62K Used 2011 Acura MDX Portland P99013
Of the three, which do you think would be the better buy, based on cost and mileage? My own thoughts...Number 1, carfax record are decent but it does show the owner used to live in CO so salt corrosion concerns me. Number 2, black interior! I likes!!, still has the powertrain 6 yrs/ 70K warranty, but not much maintenance shown in the carfax. Number 3, decent carfax maintenance, but my concern is that it has the most miles and is the oldest. I live in Seattle but plan on getting the vehicle inspected by an independent 3rd party.
Also for any current owners of these model years, have any of you experienced the vibrations...is it violent or not that bad?
Thank you guys in advance for any responses!
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My first thought is that service records aren't guaranteed to make it into CarFax. Option 2 has fewer miles so other than oil and a tranny fluid change, there's not much to it. If either look old, have the dealer do it for you at the time of purchase. Is it CPO? We grabbed a '12 Tech CPO with 46k miles and haven't had a single regret (other than wishing we could have spent a few $k less but that's the case with any car ).
#3
Option 2 and purchase the AcuraCare Extended Warranty from Curry Acura if you can.
#5
Mike...
Price matters and those numbers are outrageous.
Those vehicles need to set on the lot, until they come down $5,000 each.
Here's what dealers expect to get when they go to an auction:
2012 MDX Base, 51,000 miles in clean condition $23,980 vs in average condition $22,510.
2012 MDX w/Tech, 44,000 miles in clean condition $26,056 vs in average condition $24,560
2011 MDX Base, 62,000 miles in clean condition $20,860 vs in average condition $19,370.
Find yourself a private one owner car.
Price matters and those numbers are outrageous.
Those vehicles need to set on the lot, until they come down $5,000 each.
Here's what dealers expect to get when they go to an auction:
2012 MDX Base, 51,000 miles in clean condition $23,980 vs in average condition $22,510.
2012 MDX w/Tech, 44,000 miles in clean condition $26,056 vs in average condition $24,560
2011 MDX Base, 62,000 miles in clean condition $20,860 vs in average condition $19,370.
Find yourself a private one owner car.
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Mike...
Price matters and those numbers are outrageous.
Those vehicles need to set on the lot, until they come down $5,000 each.
Here's what dealers expect to get when they go to an auction:
2012 MDX Base, 51,000 miles in clean condition $23,980 vs in average condition $22,510.
2012 MDX w/Tech, 44,000 miles in clean condition $26,056 vs in average condition $24,560
2011 MDX Base, 62,000 miles in clean condition $20,860 vs in average condition $19,370.
Find yourself a private one owner car.
Price matters and those numbers are outrageous.
Those vehicles need to set on the lot, until they come down $5,000 each.
Here's what dealers expect to get when they go to an auction:
2012 MDX Base, 51,000 miles in clean condition $23,980 vs in average condition $22,510.
2012 MDX w/Tech, 44,000 miles in clean condition $26,056 vs in average condition $24,560
2011 MDX Base, 62,000 miles in clean condition $20,860 vs in average condition $19,370.
Find yourself a private one owner car.
Where did you get your numbers from? Yes, I know the prices are somewhat high compared to auction but this is what it's my local market.
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#8
My preference is to buy from an owner, but there aren't too many in my area. I prefer a grey exterior with black or taupe grey interior.
Where did you get your numbers from? Yes, I know the prices are somewhat high compared to auction but this is what it's my local market.
Where did you get your numbers from? Yes, I know the prices are somewhat high compared to auction but this is what it's my local market.
I was told that they use the "Blackbook".
I later asked my local Honda dealer salesman how they determined how much they would offer me for my trade in. Again "Blackbook" was mentioned.
If you are using the Internet Explorer search engine, you can go to www dot cudlautosmart dot com
Click on research. Then scroll down to Blackbook.
Enter your vehicles info and look at the full retail columns and the trade in value columns.
Dealers offer about $1,000 less than the trade in value listed, then make you negotiate up, from that starting point.
When I use the Mozilla Firefox search engine, I can not enter the number of miles on the vehicle, so I have to use the Internet Explorer engine.
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#9
OP,
How close are you to Canada? With the EXTREMELY favourable U.S to CDN dollar conversion (for you guys), you could get a 2014 mdx for the price of those Mdxs. In 2010-2013 the CDN MDX got some bonuses that you guys didn't get like headlight washers and some other technical things for durability. The 2014 mdx is also WAY nicer here than yours (headlight washers, power fold mirrors, real wood trim, around
views cams on top trim...etc).
How close are you to Canada? With the EXTREMELY favourable U.S to CDN dollar conversion (for you guys), you could get a 2014 mdx for the price of those Mdxs. In 2010-2013 the CDN MDX got some bonuses that you guys didn't get like headlight washers and some other technical things for durability. The 2014 mdx is also WAY nicer here than yours (headlight washers, power fold mirrors, real wood trim, around
views cams on top trim...etc).
#10
OP,
How close are you to Canada? With the EXTREMELY favourable U.S to CDN dollar conversion (for you guys), you could get a 2014 mdx for the price of those Mdxs. In 2010-2013 the CDN MDX got some bonuses that you guys didn't get like headlight washers and some other technical things for durability. The 2014 mdx is also WAY nicer here than yours (headlight washers, power fold mirrors, real wood trim, around
views cams on top trim...etc).
How close are you to Canada? With the EXTREMELY favourable U.S to CDN dollar conversion (for you guys), you could get a 2014 mdx for the price of those Mdxs. In 2010-2013 the CDN MDX got some bonuses that you guys didn't get like headlight washers and some other technical things for durability. The 2014 mdx is also WAY nicer here than yours (headlight washers, power fold mirrors, real wood trim, around
views cams on top trim...etc).
#11
I live in Seattle. So about a few hours from Vancouver BC. I acutally hadn't thought of this. The only thing is that, based on my research on carcomplaints dot com; the 2014 mdx had many transmission problems. I just got unlucky with my wife's honda civic transmission and don't want to deal with it again. Her 02' honda civic has transmission listed as a problem as well on the same site I listed above so I just want to avoid it all.
For example, no push button start, no real wood trim, no heated seats, about 500 pounds heavier than the 3G MDX. The 2014+ model drives like a car while IMHO the 2013 and under drives like a truck (still handles amazingly, but in slow parking lot maneuvers it feels way larger than it is.
Regardless of what year you choose, I strongly recommend going for a Canadian model just for the added durability and the price savings.
#12
When getting financing, from my Credit Union back in 1998, I asked how they determined the amount that they would finance a used car for.
I was told that they use the "Blackbook".
I later asked my local Honda dealer salesman how they determined how much they would offer me for my trade in. Again "Blackbook" was mentioned.
If you are using the Internet Explorer search engine, you can go to www dot cudlautosmart dot com
Click on research. Then scroll down to Blackbook.
Enter your vehicles info and look at the full retail columns and the trade in value columns.
Dealers offer about $1,000 less than the trade in value listed, then make you negotiate up, from that starting point.
When I use the Mozilla Firefox search engine, I can not enter the number of miles on the vehicle, so I have to use the Internet Explorer engine.
I was told that they use the "Blackbook".
I later asked my local Honda dealer salesman how they determined how much they would offer me for my trade in. Again "Blackbook" was mentioned.
If you are using the Internet Explorer search engine, you can go to www dot cudlautosmart dot com
Click on research. Then scroll down to Blackbook.
Enter your vehicles info and look at the full retail columns and the trade in value columns.
Dealers offer about $1,000 less than the trade in value listed, then make you negotiate up, from that starting point.
When I use the Mozilla Firefox search engine, I can not enter the number of miles on the vehicle, so I have to use the Internet Explorer engine.
#13
I think you are hearing more about the 2016+ MDX with the 9 speed because the 2010-2015 MDX all have the same 6 speed automatic, no changes. IMHO go and test drive a 2014 just to see how it is, when I drove the 2016 loaner it was like night and day difference vs my current 2007. Don't get me wrong, I love my 2007 mdx, but feel there was some significant dissapointments with the 2G MDX.
For example, no push button start, no real wood trim, no heated seats, about 500 pounds heavier than the 3G MDX. The 2014+ model drives like a car while IMHO the 2013 and under drives like a truck (still handles amazingly, but in slow parking lot maneuvers it feels way larger than it is.
Regardless of what year you choose, I strongly recommend going for a Canadian model just for the added durability and the price savings.
For example, no push button start, no real wood trim, no heated seats, about 500 pounds heavier than the 3G MDX. The 2014+ model drives like a car while IMHO the 2013 and under drives like a truck (still handles amazingly, but in slow parking lot maneuvers it feels way larger than it is.
Regardless of what year you choose, I strongly recommend going for a Canadian model just for the added durability and the price savings.
I'll include canada in my search area but there are a few factors I'm facing as well. Need the car ASAP, my wife is getting rides from her co-workers. Price, trying to stay under $30K (Possible for the 2G, I'm not seeing any 3Gs for that price-point).
#14
I got my 2007 Sport, with 8875 miles per year = 71,000 miles, in 2015 for $359 over the blackbook clean trade-in.
I walked away from 2 other MDXes, because they were nearly $1,000 over the trade in value.
I paid an independent mechanic $130 to check it out.
If you want a good inspection check list form, call Travelers Ins. and tell them that you have a car that's got a salvage title and you want Travelers Ins.
They'll send you their inspection form and you can compare it to your mechanics inspection list. My MDX is not a salvage, just to be clear.
I walked away from 2 other MDXes, because they were nearly $1,000 over the trade in value.
I paid an independent mechanic $130 to check it out.
If you want a good inspection check list form, call Travelers Ins. and tell them that you have a car that's got a salvage title and you want Travelers Ins.
They'll send you their inspection form and you can compare it to your mechanics inspection list. My MDX is not a salvage, just to be clear.
#15
I got my 2007 Sport, with 8875 miles per year = 71,000 miles, in 2015 for $359 over the blackbook clean trade-in.
I walked away from 2 other MDXes, because they were nearly $1,000 over the trade in value.
I paid an independent mechanic $130 to check it out.
If you want a good inspection check list form, call Travelers Ins. and tell them that you have a car that's got a salvage title and you want Travelers Ins.
They'll send you their inspection form and you can compare it to your mechanics inspection list. My MDX is not a salvage, just to be clear.
I walked away from 2 other MDXes, because they were nearly $1,000 over the trade in value.
I paid an independent mechanic $130 to check it out.
If you want a good inspection check list form, call Travelers Ins. and tell them that you have a car that's got a salvage title and you want Travelers Ins.
They'll send you their inspection form and you can compare it to your mechanics inspection list. My MDX is not a salvage, just to be clear.
I am getting an inspection from pdxinspections.com and they seem to be very detailed with their inspections.
#16
Why not drive a little further south and possibly consider this one? It's $1k more than option 1, but is CPO, a California car (so no worries about corrosion), and has pretty good service records on Carfax.
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