Comptechtl2367

Hey Guys,
I have been searching to see what would be needed to put paddle shifters on my base 07 TL. The reason I want to do this is when my 06 was S/C the torque steer sucked so it would be nice to keep both hands on the wheels and still be able to shift.

From the research I have done I need a 07-08 Type-S wheel, Clock Spring and thats it. (Airbag from my car will work with the S wheel). Also wondering if anyone has a "DIY" on wiring this.

Thanks!

truonghthe

so far there is no DIY write up yet and there is a post about this but no pics and no result follow up, gl on your project and if you ended up do it then please write up a DIY

DaeHanMeenGuk

i could've sworn someone else wanted to this too. i don't think he actually bought the parts but rather, he was sort of theorizing and speculating what parts would be needed along with how to wire up everything. if you're able to find it in search, you should check it out. there could be some good info on that thread.

good luck! and also, if you do this conversion, take lots of pictures to make a DIY to help other users in the future!

TegoTL

Buy a Type S.

nttstt444

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DaeHan, I remember that also, cant remember his handle but I do remember reading about someone wanting to do paddle shifters on a base. I think he did buy the TL-S wheel but ended up selling it in the BM.

Comptechtl2367

Douche


Anyway, I will keep looking into it and see what I can figure out. It should be a simple two wire project. I have read all the results from the search area that I could find. I am suprised no one has done this, it was a big topic back when I was on here for my last TL.

justnspace

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its not a big topic because it isnt that important.

more of a novelty item


hurry up and wire it up!!!! you can do it!!!

Comptechtl2367

This could be interesting. Ill have to see if I can just tap into the wires in the shifter assm to get it to work.

AirForceFX

I think that would be pretty sweet!

I would even consider it on my 6MT. I wonder how that would work...

justnspace

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it wouldnt.
your tranny is superior to the paddle shifters

why would you want paddle shifters that delay shifts!?

AirForceFX

Just for the neat factor, really!

justnspace

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ahh, the novelty!

Comptechtl2367

So no one on here has any insight on how this would maybe work?

Comptechtl2367

I got the Type S wheel and clock spring, anyone have a wiring diagram for the plug that goes into the shifter in the center console?

TheLowLife

Wish I could help here, would love to see it finished...

Project_CLean

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I'm trying to get you one, but my damn computer won't let me open the file.

Comptechtl2367

Perfect! I just need to find which two wires control the up/down shift.

Mug

I hate it when people say to buy the S or the car with that feature. Sometimes people don't want to part with their car. They may have mods they don't want to remove or part with or simply the loss on sale and repurchase. I was interested in this mod too but most of the threads turned into how much the Type S owners used the paddles.

I drove a Saab once with the buttons on the front of the wheel. WAY more fun then the setup we have. I think it would be awesome to have paddles or even buttons. I'm still very interested in this mod.

justnspace

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50/50 chance to get it right!

p.s. I believe fsttyms1 over on the 2G TL side re-wired his gate shifter to be down= downshift and up = upshift.....errr wait, he has 6mt i think...

Comptechtl2367

That is a very good point but it just has a connector coming out of it with all the wires so i need to know which color wire goes to up and which to down.

NIGHTEHAWK

I wish there was a way to make shifts quicker, my old car changed gears faster than I could count, so did an IS350 I test drove.

justnspace

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this is why I opted for the MT.
Honda still hadn't gotten Automatics right, yet.


Imagine the 4G's 6AT in the 3G.

LockDots

It doesn't work that easy. There isn't a wire for up and a wire for down. It's most likely a single wire that operates on changing resistance or impedance, similar to that of steering wheel audio controls. Possibly even data.

Most expensive and complicated part would be adapting the electronics. When a paddle shifter is used to control a transmission, it doesn't get wired directly to the transmission and generally most of the drivetrain electronics have to be replaced/swapped out along with possibly a flash as well.

Unless you've got plenty of money and time to put in the research and development that Honda won't hand over so easily, it's a project that realistically may not happen. Tough to swallow but it's true. I can certainly appreciate wanting to do something like this but in my opinion it's not worth it. To each his own of course.

YeuEmMaiMai

I am going to go with the corporate bean counter and say that this would be implimented as cheaply as possible and the paddles replicate the sport mode on the shifter ie one switch closed for up and the other for down. Most likely the levers complete the circuit that tells the ECM that the Sport mode is active and change gears at the same time

Comptechtl2367

From looking in the steering wheel there is three wires. One black that conects to both paddles and one in different colors. I was hoping one was ground and the others was a signal telling the ecu to ether shift up or down. I was hoping I could tap the similar wires in the shifter to get it to do the same thing... this might fail before it even gets off the ground!

I may just have to rip into the car and see what i find. The bad part is its my only car right now so I cant just rip it apart to mess around.

LockDots

That could very well be true as well.

Why not look up the vehicle's wiring? If you can't find it online you can sign up for services like Alldata to pull up full schematics. I'm not sure how expensive it would be as I haven't had to pay for it in a while. I would share the info, but I can't at the risk of losing my job.

sunny201

Ever figure it out?

speedy4ever

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I have a type s steering wheel in my 07 base installed for the voice command feature for the navi, if I press the left paddle, the trip meter between A and B changes on the cluster. just my insight...

YeuEmMaiMai

what about the right one?

LockDots

Must be data and/or impedance sensing then.

xdmds

Any progress? I would really like to do this conversion

aIRpeACE

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its kinda impossible.

Comptechtl2367

I installed the Type S wheel in my car last night and all the buttons work just like the old base wheel. Obviously the shifters dont work. When I started this thread I still had plans to supercharge this TL too and now its just going to be my daily and winter car so I think I am just going to say screw it. I am however going to switch over the switches from my base wheel because the red lights on the Type S wheel are just plain UGLY! I never got why they thought putting red lights in the Type S somehow looked better, It was one of the biggest reasons I didnt buy a Type S to begin with!

AlexanderXiong

Hello,
I'm in the same spot as you are now. I got a hold of a Type S steering wheel and replaced with my old one and everything works prefectly except the paddle shifter. Did you by any chance found out how to wire the thing?

LockDots

It's not wiring, it's impedance/data matching that does the trick. Unfortunately this is still proprietary information.

stljim2005

All that has to be done is find out which wire it is that comes from the paddle shifter side and run it through the car and tap it into the correct wire in the shifter on the console. Boom done. I can pull up wire schematics/location of most wires from work. I WILL do a diy fully and everything needed once I get ahold of a type s steering wheel for testing purposes..