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Old 11-06-2004, 09:12 PM
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Wax for winter protection ~

thinking of waxing my car soon for the winter .. ~~ is there any specific wax for winter protection ... like protect the chassis from salt and rusting ???
and wut's the diff. between NXT and Gold Class ??? which is better ??? ~
it's ok if it wont make my car looks SSM looks the same if i wax it .. ~
Old 11-06-2004, 09:43 PM
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I did a Meguair stage 1 and 2 than 2 coats of wax. (I used Nano wax but go for NXT!!) But if you really want to know, you should check out the "Wash & Wax" lounge. You'll find more info there.
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thx Jeff .. ~~ but where is the "Wash & Wax" lounge ????
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I don't think you need to worry about anything since you are from vancouver, you guys don't have a "real" canadian winter and i doubt they would ever consider salting the roads there.

if you are worried about your undercarriage rusting, you should get it undercoated. The galvanized steel is pretty good to protect from rusting but it can still happen. Being from manitoba and have seen under cars driven in "real" winters with salted roads, for most new cars it is not the chassis that is rusting but mostly the suspension pieces/exhaust and stuff.

For waxing, if your paint is new and no swirl marks, you should consider using paint sealant. If too late, then use NXT can get a good shine but it may not last long and need to use more. You can try a pure carnauba wax also should last long during the colder months. Gold Class is not that great, i would rather use NXT.
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thx Jeff .. ~~ but where is the "Wash & Wax" lounge ????
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Originally Posted by Andynolife
thinking of waxing my car soon for the winter .. ~~ is there any specific wax for winter protection ... like protect the chassis from salt and rusting ???
and wut's the diff. between NXT and Gold Class ??? which is better ??? ~
it's ok if it wont make my car looks SSM looks the same if i wax it .. ~

For winter protection stay away from a carnuba and go with a synthetic. For maximum protection and durability try out Zanio or Klasse or Einszettes Glanz. All are great choices for winter and summer protection.
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Zanio is a good wax for winter protection?
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Zaino's not a wax, but a synthetic sealant. It's very durable and tends to last longer than waxes, which are usually gone within 2-3 months after application.
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Originally Posted by RMATIC09
Zanio is a good wax for winter protection?

Zanio is a synthetic. And yes it is great for winter protection. A carnuba will last about a month or so depending on your climate. Here in Florida we'd be lucky to see 3 weeks out of a carnuba. That is why a quality synthetic is the way to go. It will last for months and can be layered for additional shine and or depth. If youre not familiar with synthetics then you might want to try the Klasse twins. AIO and SG are simple to use and provide great protection.
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thx for ur suggestionis guys . ~~ i think i will try NXT first and see ..
heard some great thing abt Zanio but it's hard to get and exapsnive compare to NXT ~
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I dont know why people think Zaino is so expensive. Z1 and Z2 together are about $22 USD. Thats chump change for something that lasts for 6 months and only uses about 1 oz. per coat.

Waxes need to be put on at least once every other month. So now tell me whats expensive.
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but im up in Canada .. ~~ any idea where i can get them .. ~~ cuz i only see them in some US online stores ..
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Originally Posted by Andynolife
but im up in Canada .. ~~ any idea where i can get them .. ~~ cuz i only see them in some US online stores ..
Why dont you order them online? I am sure they ship to Canada.
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Originally Posted by TSXtc
If youre not familiar with synthetics then you might want to try the Klasse twins. AIO and SG are simple to use and provide great protection.
Klasse AIO and SG
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Originally Posted by DEI99662
Why dont you order them online? I am sure they ship to Canada.
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thx DEI .. ~~ so i just need Z1 + Z2?? ..... and how i gonna use them ?? ... thx for answering .. ~~ im pretty much a wax noob here .. ~~
wut abt there Z9 and Z 10 .. any one used them ?? good thing for the leather ??
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I use it for the leather. Works realy well and has a strong leather smell.

If you want to do it right, clay bar your car first, then apply one coat of Z1, but dont take it off. Then apply the Z2, take that coat off then apply another.

Their are many posts about Zaino around here. Do a search.
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Originally Posted by Andynolife
but im up in Canada .. ~~ any idea where i can get them .. ~~ cuz i only see them in some US online stores ..
There's an order form on www.zaino.ca that you can fill in and fax to them. The website has detailed instructions on how to apply and on what each product does. Proper prep is time consuming, but it will make the end result look terrific, so you might want to consider a clay bar as well (you can buy clay bars elsewhere - Mothers is the same as Zaino).
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Originally Posted by lokman
There's an order form on www.zaino.ca that you can fill in and fax to them. The website has detailed instructions on how to apply and on what each product does. Proper prep is time consuming, but it will make the end result look terrific, so you might want to consider a clay bar as well (you can buy clay bars elsewhere - Mothers is the same as Zaino).
thx man .. that's really helpful .. ~~
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but haha .. cuz the exchange rate thing .. ~~ the price is Canadian Zaino is way expansive then the US one .. ~~ well ... i think i will order from the US side
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but haha .. cuz the exchange rate thing .. ~~ the price is Canadian Zaino is way expansive then the US one .. ~~ well ... i think i will order from the US side
True, forgot about that but if you do that make sure they ship by USPS - UPS or Fedex will add insane shipping and brokerage fees to the deal.
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True, forgot about that but if you do that make sure they ship by USPS - UPS or Fedex will add insane shipping and brokerage fees to the deal.
thx for the input ~
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My friend just Zainoed his RSX and it's looking NICE!!! And he also used only Z1 & Z2. There are instructions on the web site. It's easy to follow. Just make sure you find some nice 100% cotton towels!!
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so i can just use Z1 and Z2 then i will be fine ... or should i get the clay bar too ?? ~
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so i can just use Z1 and Z2 then i will be fine ... or should i get the clay bar too ?? ~
Get the Mothers clay bar from Wal-Mart or Canadian Tire - it's the same as Zaino's, but it's an essential step for a nice, smooth slick finish. Z1 is fine, or you can get ZFX in place of Z1 if you want it to go faster. Cotton towels are nice but a lot of people are now using microfibre instead since it soaks up more and has even less chance of scratching.
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but haha .. cuz the exchange rate thing .. ~~ the price is Canadian Zaino is way expansive then the US one .. ~~ well ... i think i will order from the US side
I don't think they will ship from the US... they have "territory", so they are not supposed to compete with the canadian distributers. Maybe if you know someone in the states you can go pick it up from them or have them ship it. The exchange rate is good for that now

(I shouldn't be encouraging that... we should spend in our own country for our own good...)

Anyway, clay bar is a pain. Don't wanna do it again for a long time...
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hahaha .. yeah that is wut im planing .. i got a mailbox in the state so no problems with ath .. and it's only like 30 mins drive .. ~~
why the clay bar is a pain ?? hard to use ?
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Just takes a really long time, it's tiring on the hands, and I feel like I'm not quite sure what I'm doing cuz I don't really notice the difference visually (but you can generally feel it)... and that stuff is kind of expensive.
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if clay bar is a pain then you may be doing it wrong. it only takes me about 15-20 minutes to clay our tsx. and its not expensive at $10 for a bar of clay magic.

try this method next time and i think you'll have a better experience with it. Wash the car completly, then instead of drying it go ahead and rinse the bucket out and re-fill it with fresh soapy water. now go back over the car starting on a quater panel and re wash that section and leave the soap there and use that as lube for the clay. if the clay starts to grab too much then just re suds the area and continue. when you're done with the panel just rinse it off and move to the next one. this method by far is the biggest time saver i've stumbled across in a long time.

claying isnt a pain and can be one of the most rewarding things you can do for your car.
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Originally Posted by Proo
Just takes a really long time, it's tiring on the hands, and I feel like I'm not quite sure what I'm doing cuz I don't really notice the difference visually (but you can generally feel it)... and that stuff is kind of expensive.
Puss...

It takes about 15-20 mins. Its not that hard...sheesh...

Your not suppost to see anything different visually, but you will feel the difference like you said. Claying will help to prep the car for polishing so that it will stick better and last longer. Your 15-20 mins and tired hands will be worth the effort.
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