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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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Unhappy Paint Chip

I was driving home from work and someone threw ? it hit my hood, made 2 chips, and 4 scuffs. I took it to the acura dealer, my salesman told me not to worry, they would airbrush it and it would look amazing. I picked up my car and they didn't airbrush it. THEY USED TOUCH UP PAINT! Not only on the scratches but also on the scuffs. It looks terrible! I could have done a better job myself! Any suggestions? I am very particular about my car, maybe even paranoid, but paint chips really upset me!

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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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Wet sand, compound, polish, seal.
Easier said then done......
Glue a small peice on the tip of a pencil eraser..............
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by exceldetail
Wet sand, compound, polish, seal.
Easier said then done......
Glue a small peice on the tip of a pencil eraser..............
EASIER SAID THAN DONE!
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 02:52 AM
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LOL,...easier said than done is right.

I am too scared to try polishing my paint myself (let alone wet sanding or compound),...I am not doing it myself until I get someone to show me how to do it properly (and when I get my PC this spring).

Karen, would you be willing to go to a detailer to get the problem fixed up? That would be the easiest thing to do if you are willing to pay for it. If not,...get reading haha.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by West6MT
LOL,...easier said than done is right.

I am too scared to try polishing my paint myself (let alone wet sanding or compound),...I am not doing it myself until I get someone to show me how to do it properly (and when I get my PC this spring).
Since you live around this area, I could show you how to do it once winter is over.

By the summer, I want to get comfortable wet sanding.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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Shhhhhhhhhh.............Try it on your neighbors car first.....=)
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by VB87
Since you live around this area, I could show you how to do it once winter is over.

By the summer, I want to get comfortable wet sanding.
Are you serious????? I would SO APPRECIATE that x10. My car needs a polish when winter is over,.......have some swirl marks/marring I need to take care of and a few scratches that can be buffed out I think. Nothing too bad,...a light/med polish should do the trick,...nothing too drastic. I am anxious to learn how to polish so I can do anything that might be needed on my car (I dont think I will end up learning how to compound/wet sand but maybe I should). Anyway, I will PM you I guess when spring/summer rolls around.

Do you know where I can get a PC for a reasonable price??? I looked in Canadian Tire, but the two models they have are so expensive. I dont really want to spend over $200 on a PC if I dont have too.

Anyway, thank you very much for offering to help me out.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by exceldetail
Shhhhhhhhhh.............Try it on your neighbors car first.....=)
LOL,...if only it were that easy. I actually have my old car sitting in the backyard still that I can experiment on. The paint is in rough shape now though. I actually tried to polish part of the trunk lid by hand before winter hit,............didnt turn out so well HAHAHA. If we end up just shipping the car to the junk yard,...I might keep the hood or something as a practice surface/test bed for different things. The paint on that car would need A LOT of work done on it,....its beyond my skill right now lol. It would need some serious polish work and compounding done I am sure. It is a 1992 and literally has had no care done to it.

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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by West6MT
LOL,...easier said than done is right.

I am too scared to try polishing my paint myself (let alone wet sanding or compound),...I am not doing it myself until I get someone to show me how to do it properly (and when I get my PC this spring).

Karen, would you be willing to go to a detailer to get the problem fixed up? That would be the easiest thing to do if you are willing to pay for it. If not,...get reading haha.
CAN IT BE FIXED AT A DETAILER, OR SHOULD I JUST TAKE IT TO THE BODY SHOP AT ACURA? I KNOW IF I HAVE THE HOOD REPAINTED, THE VERY NEXT DAY I'LL END UP WITH A GRAVEL TRUCK IN FRONT OF ME AND 10 NEW CHIPS! : ) I JUST WOULD LIKE IT FIXED.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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I would just get a good detailer to fix it. Make sure the person knows how to wet sand and polish well. You've been through the Acura dealer and did not do a good job, why go back to them?
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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I'd have to see a picture to say whether I think a detailer could fix it, but if I had to guess I would say yes - with the right touchup paint (you'll need to provide that), it should be repairable. To give you an idea of what you can do with touchup/wetsand/polish, here's some grocery cart damage I fixed recently.

This is a before/after - the scratches were about 5 inches long and to the metal. The after is after sanding and the first compounding step.


The original damage was in the red circle.


btw, if anyone in the GTA needs help wetsanding/detailing/polishing etc, I'm always up for it.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JackieO
btw, if anyone in the GTA needs help wetsanding/detailing/polishing etc, I'm always up for it.
Hey, nice to see someone close by. Where in the GTA are you? I could use some pointers in wetsanding, and West6MT would probably want to join too.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Im right downtown, about 5 blocks west of Bathurst on Queen West. I'm happy to help, although I admit my location is a bit of a pain in the butt to get to.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by VB87
I would just get a good detailer to fix it. Make sure the person knows how to wet sand and polish well. You've been through the Acura dealer and did not do a good job, why go back to them?
Thank you, I will ask around. I will take a picture of my hood later today. The detailer can wet sand and polish to remove the touch up paint, but what about the chips? I'm not looking for perfect, just better than what I am looking at. I'm not sure if the dealer thought "Wow, that really looks great." This is my 3rd black TL, I probably should have learned my lesson by now! Next one is going to be silver.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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There's a nice "Chip & scratch repair" thing on the autopia site:
http://store.yahoo.com/autopia/inf-p...sh-clinic.html

They've got a section on how to level off & polish the touch-up paint. It looks complicated & hard, but I plan on trying it out in my TSX in a few months.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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Wow.....got a few minor scrapes which i want to touch up...but im so much afraid i'll make it worse ....

JackieO ..how long does it take to do the whole process for taht little part there?
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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Total work hours was probably about 5. The entire process took me 2 days just because you need to give the touchup paint time to dry in between layers and before you sand/polish it.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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Paint Scratch / Chip Repair:

Why repair paint chips and scratches; to improve the vehicles appearance, to prepare vehicle for lease return, increase retail value and to protect the vehicle from further damage. Chips and scratches aren't just aesthetically unpleasing, the exposed metal underneath may be prone to rusting or additional chipping. Fixing these spots with touch-up paint is an easy step in protecting your investment-
1.Apply isopropyl alcohol (ISP) to a Q-tip and dab on the rock chip or scratch a few times.
2.Take a clean towel and dry the paint chip.
3.With a utility knife cut the paint around the edge of the chip, the edge of the paint chip indentation will be slightly higher than the surrounding area and/or the edge of the chipped area may have separated from the metal surface or there could be some wax/dirt in the area or the paint may have oxidized on the edges (it is not absolutely necessary, but it does improve the results and will avoid leaving a dark outline)
4.Angle your blade toward the centre of the chip and press down gently. Work slowly and carefully, removing a small piece at a time, it’s not necessary to remove a lot of material. Clean the area with isopropyl alcohol (IPA) again and allow to dry.
5.With painters masking tape cover the area surrounding the rust spot
6.Use 3000 grit finishing paper and a Unigrit Sanding Block sanding block to remove any rust
7.Use an AutoSharp paint pen (http://www.autosharppen.com) colour matched to your vehicle. The pen itself is very easy to use. You simply shake it, depress the felt tip a few times to start the paint flow, and then begin to "colour" paint into the damaged areas, much like you would highlight a section of text in a book.
8.Do not to try to fix the chip in one application, apply a small amount of paint and allow to dry, repeat over a couple of days. Once the painted area is slightly higher than paint surface, allow to dry.
9.Once completely dry, using a 3000 grit finishing paper and a Unigrit Sanding Block (previously soaked for 4 hours or over night) to level touch-up paint with the surrounding paint surface
10.Use Woolite® or a car shampoo on the chip repair for lubrication.
11.Next, use the sanding block to reduce the high spot off of the chip repair, using the block in one direction only. Do not use a circular motion (it will produce swirls) or a back and forth motion and ensure the sanding block is always wet
12.Keep the area well lubricated with water and shampoo; otherwise it will dull the paint. A good car polish (Menzerna Final Polish II ) will restore the paints lustre
13.Once the surface appears level, dry it with a clean towel and inspect with your fingertips.
14.If you can feel a high spot, repeat the sanding process.
15.If done correctly, you will hardly notice the repair.
16.Finally apply wax/sealant protection

Alternative products-
a) Lanka Paint chip and scratch repair technologies - http://www. Langka.com /
http://www.langka.com/blob-eliminator-p-31.html

Langka and Metallic Paint-the reason metallic looks different after using the product is the metallic flakes migrate to the upper level of the paint surface while setting up. To counter this, use the blue sanding card on edge immediately after applying the touch up, like a razor.

This will remove most of the touch up while the metallic flakes are still suspended evenly throughout the paint, smearing the excess across the local area. Let dry and use the Langka to wipe away the smear tail left across the original (OME) paint.

b) A system called Sprayless Scratch Repair http://www.magictouchinc.com/

c) AutoSharp pen the pen itself is very easy to use. You simply shake it, depress the felt tip a few times to start the paint flow, and then begin to "colour" paint into the damaged areas, much like you would highlight a section of text in a book. http://www.autosharppen.com/

d) Final Touch is a unique restoration process designed to dramatically increase the quality of traditional "touch up" results. Restore your car in 15-30 minutes with Final Touch
http://www.touchup123.com/

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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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Hey, nice to see someone close by. Where in the GTA are you? I could use some pointers in wetsanding, and West6MT would probably want to join too.

YA FOR SURE I AM. I was just down there today actually hahaha. I cant get enough info about car detailing. I would definately like to learn about wetsanding/compounding/polishing. Those are the three things I dont know/am not comfortable trying on my own without being shown how to do properly. AWESOME Jakieo.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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Thanks for speaking up for meVB87 btw.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:32 AM
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Well it's probably best to wait till we start seeing some nicer weather - but as soon as we do someone shoot me a PM and we'll get together and be detailing geeks.

I've got all the polish we'll ever need.
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by karen
I was driving home from work and someone threw ? it hit my hood, made 2 chips, and 4 scuffs. I took it to the acura dealer, my salesman told me not to worry, they would airbrush it and it would look amazing. I picked up my car and they didn't airbrush it. THEY USED TOUCH UP PAINT! Not only on the scratches but also on the scuffs. It looks terrible! I could have done a better job myself! Any suggestions? I am very particular about my car, maybe even paranoid, but paint chips really upset me!
the hood chips easily on the tsx. i have a 2004 with several paint chips after driving on highway. Hopefully the 2006 i am now getting won't chip as bad. After a while you won't mind as much and will just appreciate the good car it is.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by floridaowner
the hood chips easily on the tsx. i have a 2004 with several paint chips after driving on highway. Hopefully the 2006 i am now getting won't chip as bad. After a while you won't mind as much and will just appreciate the good car it is.
I KNOW, I TRY NOT TO LOOK AT IT. IT STILL BOTHERS ME THOUGH. I LOVE MY TL, PAINT CHIPS AND ALL!
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