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Old 04-17-2005, 12:18 AM
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Klasse and s100

Where can i get both Klasse and s100 locally?

if not wheres the chaepest place online?
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S100 can be bought at harley dealers, not sure about Klasse
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Originally Posted by CLpower
S100 can be bought at harley dealers, not sure about Klasse
thnx, where online for klasse then?
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go to www.autopia.org, and you will find Klass products. Good luck!
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I just got mine from autogeek.net
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Oh and I put it on two days ago, then let it sit for a day, took it off yesterday (klasse sealant). This stuff is incredible, I've never had a better looking shine on a car.
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Here you go:

http://www.properautocare.com/klasconkit.html

Klasse twins are awesome. With proper prepping, even my 9 year-old car will look like new. Here's a pic:


Hood shots are my all-time fav.

You can get S100 from any Harley dealers.
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damn, that looks incredible. how many coats is that?


question....I put on the sealant a couple days ago, without doing the all-in-one first. Is that bad? Should I have done the AIO?
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That was only one coat of SG. I have sin layered two more coats of SG and I will finally finish by putting a coat of S100 on top sometime this month or early next month b/c I don't have time to do anything right now.

If your car is brand new, layering only SG will be fine without AIO. If it is an older car, it would be the best if you put on a coat of AIO first, the SG will stick onto it better.
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holy shit that pix is kraziii... so the s100 rilli brings out the shine or what?
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This is my hood after meguiars gold class. I'll post a pic of it after redoing it with Klasse tomorrow...



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did you hand apply that?
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I did, yes.
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Gold Class is an awesome product, but it only lasts maybe a week at the most in warm weather.

yunginTL, no, S100 doesn't do that. It enhances the SG's gloss. The picture I posted was after Klasse treatment and still hasn't gotten a coat of S100 yet. But anyways, you must prep the car pretty good in order to get a finish like that. You can't just put it on and expect it to look good. You need to clay, swirl mark remover with a orbital buffer, make sure everything looks good before putting the sealants on, makeing it glossy. A typical detail for me is at least 7 hours on the first day. I spent about 10 hours when I detailed mine a couple of weeks ago. It's hard work but totally rewarding.
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Originally Posted by Bearded Root
Oh and I put it on two days ago, then let it sit for a day, took it off yesterday (klasse sealant). This stuff is incredible, I've never had a better looking shine on a car.


you let it sit on the car for a day before wipeing off


you aren't suppose to do that are you? I think you are suppose to remove it and let it cure for 24 hours before you put something else on (atleast that's how most sealents are)
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Originally Posted by WolfpackBill
Gold Class is an awesome product, but it only lasts maybe a week at the most in warm weather.
It'll last much longer then a week, atleast for the last few years i've been using it it has



Beet, since you are in AZ you should look into a very strong sealent that has a high boiling point. In the summers out htere a carnuba will definately burn off
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Originally Posted by CLpower
you let it sit on the car for a day before wipeing off

you aren't suppose to do that are you? I think you are suppose to remove it and let it cure for 24 hours before you put something else on (atleast that's how most sealents are)

From Klasse instructions:

Wipe in long, layered strokes and use just a little pressure, it won’t hinder the results. Let the sealant remain on the entire surface area of your vehicle as long as possible before you buff your car. Mist the surface with quick-detailing spray if it resists buffing.
It was cool and in the shade, so I let it sit for 24 hours...that was 'as long as possible' for me. Think it was too long? It came out great...



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Beet, since you are in AZ you should look into a very strong sealent that has a high boiling point. In the summers out htere a carnuba will definately burn off
Klasse is a sealant... its not caranuba. I just used the Meguiars in the time between buying the car and until my Klasse order came (took almost two weeks for my order from autogeek.net ).
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Originally Posted by CLpower
It'll last much longer then a week, atleast for the last few years i've been using it it has
No canauba waxes can last up to 2 weeks, espcially in warm weather. Canauba waxes have low melting points (I think around 140 degrees or is it less??) so if you park your car outside in the sun for a few hours, that stuff are pretty much gone. Klasse SG or Zaino stuff, on the other hand, are polymer and not canauba so the protection is much better because it has a pretty high melting point.

Bearded Root, you're right. In most cases, half an hour is good enough. But it's totally up to you when to buff the SG off, but give at least half an hour for it to cure. After that, you must wait at least 24 hours before layering another coat. So what I usually do is to wash the car again a few days later, provided the weather will be nice. If rain is coming, then I wait about a week or whenever there's a good weather forecast for at least 4 days to do it. So that's why it has been 2 weeks and I still haven't sealed it with S100. I have one more coat of SG to go and S100 afterwards and my detailing will be finally done.
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hmmm..im gonna oder the AIO and the SG this weekend and try this out on my beat up 92 camry first see how the results are, want to buy a PC too.

s100 ill get later when i want to do myy car. so the purpose of the s100 is further protection?
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S100 doesn't offer any protection, it just makes your finish to look even deeper and slicker. Once you put that in, it's awesome!!! My green looks insane after you put S100 on.
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Originally Posted by WolfpackBill
S100 doesn't offer any protection, it just makes your finish to look even deeper and slicker. Once you put that in, it's awesome!!! My green looks insane after you put S100 on.

ohh okay thnx for the clarification, how long would the s100 last?
not as long as the klasse im guessin
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Originally Posted by Bearded Root
From Klasse instructions:

It was cool and in the shade, so I let it sit for 24 hours...that was 'as long as possible' for me. Think it was too long? It came out great...
Weird - the directions on my bottle of Klasse SG is slightly different. It reads: "Apply extremely thin film on clean, dry surface with soft cotton cloth. ---> Allow to dry, then wipe off with dry cloth <---"
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^^ the directions I posted were from autogeek.net...


http://www.autogeek.net/klashiggloss.html
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Don't listen to the back of the bottle. Autogeek and CMA are the people to listen to. They're awesome!!

Here's CMA's version of the application guide for either by hand or polisher:

http://www.properautocare.com/klasapguid.html
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Originally Posted by yunginTL
ohh okay thnx for the clarification, how long would the s100 last?
not as long as the klasse im guessin
Definitely not as long as Klasse. It probably lasts a couple of weeks, give or take but I don't care. My car looks way too good after the S100.
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The protection provided by the Klasse SG should last for a few months. S100/ P21S (same product) could extend that, but since S100 is Carnauba, it comes off after a week or so. So after that, another layer of SG would be good, just don't put the SG on top of freshly applied Carnauba, 'coz it won't bond properly.

Spray on wax like Eagle One WAUD is nice on top of the SG as well if you don't have the time to apply the S100. It's good in between coats.

Another key is good MF cloth, you will get better results.
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thnx alot for every ones input, gonna be gettin these products reall soon. I'll post pix of my dads beater car as a test dummy after im done with the whole deal.
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I get roughly 2 months out of S100 on a car that's outside 24/7
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Originally Posted by Vicman17
Spray on wax like Eagle One WAUD is nice on top of the SG as well if you don't have the time to apply the S100. It's good in between coats.
I hope you mean between coats of S100. I'm pretty sure WAUD has canauba wax in it, so don't apply it between coats of SG.

CLPower, that's a damn long time for S100. Especially outside. How are you gauging it's length of protection?
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i buy my s100 at the harley dealer
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I got my S100 online for like $14, havent had the chance to use it yet though. I'm gonna clay/AIO/SG/S100 the mustang this weekend, so hopefully I have arms left on sunday.

Here's my car after its first clay job, and its first newb application of AIO. It doesnt smell that nice, but it comes off like butta and def hides alot of swirls. I still REALLY need to get a PC orbital, i'm sure it would save a ton of time & work.





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this is two coats of klasse...



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Where I buy it


Results with Klasse and s100





and my Integra

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nice legs.


Klasse AIO and s100 is my combo for now. Wouldnt mind trying somthing new though...
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
nice legs.
Originally Posted by Bearded Root



you didn't know my right leg is 1/4 the size of my left?
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