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Old May 20, 2009 | 11:17 PM
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Dodo Purple Haze question - Todd, George..?

Hey guys,

I recently purchased some Dodo Purple Haze, and to be honest, I'm not all that thrilled with it. It produces a decent shine, but I seriously don't think it's any better than my Meguiars NXT 2.0. I did a side by side comparison on my hood, and honestly, I couldn't tell a difference between the two. Am I doing something wrong? I even did 2 coats of PH, and still, it doesn't look anything spectacular.

Lastly, I have a Carbon Gray Pearl TSX.

Also, I'll try to post the side by side comparison shot, but I have to wait till I get my camera back.

Thanks!

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Old May 20, 2009 | 11:24 PM
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For the most part from what I have found, most waxes will not give you much difference in appearance as long as your correction/polish step before hand is done correctly. Is the carbon grey considered a dark color??

http://www.carnaubawaxshop.co.uk/whi...-juice-wax.php

if it isn't, you should have chosen a different wax from the Dodo line. Let me know when you want to get rid of it, lol.

One thing I keep reading about the different waxes is that people are looking for a particular beading that happens when it rains, for whatever reason. Another key thing people are looking for is duribility, and out of a wax, if you can get 3 solid months, I would say that was a good wax. I cannot say that the few different waxes that i have tried have made a difference, as long as the car was just properly taken care of before the application of the wax.

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Old May 20, 2009 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mrclrider
For the most part from what I have found, most waxes will not give you much difference in appearance as long as your correction/polish step before hand is done correctly. Is the carbon grey considered a dark color??

http://www.carnaubawaxshop.co.uk/whi...-juice-wax.php

if it isn't, you should have chosen a different wax from the Dodo line. Let me know when you want to get rid of it, lol.

One thing I keep reading about the different waxes is that people are looking for a particular beading that happens when it rains, for whatever reason. Another key thing people are looking for is duribility, and out of a wax, if you can get 3 solid months, I would say that was a good wax. I cannot say that the few different waxes that i have tried have made a difference, as long as the car was just properly taken care of before the application of the wax.

Thanks much for the response. Yes, my Carbon Gray Pearl is considered a "dark color." In fact, I confirmed my Dodo wax purchase with both Todd, and George at Detailed Image.

Overall, I would say that my paint's in pretty good condition. I'm not sure how good the durability is with this polish, but I guess I just expected more out of it than I got. I probably should have purchased the sample of it, not the full jar

Anyway, I will continue to use it unless someone wanted to offer me some great price for it, which I highly doubt. It's not bad stuff, just not much better than my Megs NXT 2.0, or FS UPP in my opinion. I probably wouldn't purchase more of it...
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Old May 20, 2009 | 11:46 PM
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I would check the durability of it. Who knows, it might last long ?
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Old May 20, 2009 | 11:58 PM
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This is pretty much why I dont use Nubas...........
I started with Blackfire almost 10 years ago and never looked back.......
Prep is everything, irregardless if your using a Nuba or a Sealant.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 01:30 AM
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The looks is really up to the eye of the beholder IMO. It's all subjective so if you don't find it really does anything for you, you can always just sell it.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 01:58 AM
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The looks is really up to the eye of the beholder IMO. It's all subjective so if you don't find it really does anything for you, you can always just sell it or give it to AZuser.
I like that last idea.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 09:13 AM
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JLTSX07... are you using the Dodo as a stand along, or a topper over your NXT or 4*upp???

I thought alot of the practice with nubas was to use them as a topper over your sealant, possibly the combination of your Dodo and one of your sealants would give you results you are happy with, instead as a stand anlone.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mrclrider
JLTSX07... are you using the Dodo as a stand along, or a topper over your NXT or 4*upp???

I thought alot of the practice with nubas was to use them as a topper over your sealant, possibly the combination of your Dodo and one of your sealants would give you results you are happy with, instead as a stand anlone.
Actually, I was using it over my FS UPP sealant.

Anyway, it might just be my carbon gray pearl color. The pearl in it pops, but the color never seems to really "pop", at least I don't really think so anyway.

The Dodo actually looked pretty good under a street light last night. My car looked incredibly wet, but unfortunately I didn't have my camera with me to capture that. Perhaps I will be able to get a shot tonight or within the following week of the same thing. I just wish it looked that "wet" under the sun.

Lastly, the car does look good, don't get me wrong, I think I was just expecting more from all of the "hype" that I've been hearing...

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Old May 21, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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that is the problem with most of these waxes we all read about...that is why I just got the 30ml of the SN..still pricey, but better than the large pot..
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Old May 21, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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I like that last idea.
Give it to you? LOL! That stuff cost me $70!
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Old May 21, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JLTSX07
Hey guys,

I recently purchased some Dodo Purple Haze, and to be honest, I'm not all that thrilled with it. It produces a decent shine, but I seriously don't think it's any better than my Meguiars NXT 2.0. I did a side by side comparison on my hood, and honestly, I couldn't tell a difference between the two. Am I doing something wrong? I even did 2 coats of PH, and still, it doesn't look anything spectacular.

Lastly, I have a Carbon Gray Pearl TSX.

Also, I'll try to post the side by side comparison shot, but I have to wait till I get my camera back.

Thanks!

Jeff
Jeff,

Detailing is a hobby where there is no best products, which is why there are so many out there to choose from. What one person loves use, another person may not like.

I do find that with most of the higher end LSP's, prep work is everything to get the most out of them. If the paint has defects in it, it can be difficult to appreciate some of the subtle differences between some products.

With any last step product, if you do a side by side comparison of a small area (such as half a panel), I doubt you'll see much of a difference if the paint is prepped the same. I don't think I'd notice a difference between NXT or Zymol Vintage (~$2000 wax) comparing half a panel. Also, keep in mind, you're chasing that last few % of clarity, depth and gloss, it's not going to be a night and day difference between LSPs. To some people, if they achieve an additional 5% better finish than the last product they were using, they rave about a product, to others, it's not worth it.

There are many factors that come into play, shine just being one of them. Other characteristics are the ease of application and removal, durability, gloss and depth, sheeting and protection. A lot of times I cannot notice a difference (looks wise) unless I'm standing back looking at the overall picture and I've used a product a bunch of times to know it inside and out.

One of the best things I found with the Dodo Juice line of waxes is how easy the paint is to maintain after as it offers very tight water beading and defends against the elements quite nicely.

Give it a little bit to see if it grows on you, the 250ml jar should be enough for 25+ applications if used correctly, so you'll certainly get a lot of use out of it. If not, I'm sure someone would be happy to take it off your hands at a fair price.

Hopefully this provides some insight on LSPs.

George

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Old May 21, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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Jeff,

Detailing is a hobby where there is no best products, which is why there are so many out there to choose from. What one person loves use, another person may not like.

I do find that with most of the higher end LSP's, prep work is everything to get the most out of them. If the paint has defects in it, it can be difficult to appreciate some of the subtle differences between some products.

With any last step product, if you do a side by side comparison of a small area (such as half a panel), I doubt you'll see much of a difference if the paint is prepped the same. I don't think I'd notice a difference between NXT or Zymol Vintage (~$2000 wax) comparing half a panel. Also, keep in mind, you're chasing that last few % of clarity, depth and gloss, it's not going to be a night and day difference between LSPs. To some people, if they achieve an additional 5% better finish than the last product they were using, they rave about a product, to others, it's not worth it.

There are many factors that come into play, shine just being one of them. Other characteristics are the ease of application and removal, durability, gloss and depth, sheeting and protection. A lot of times I cannot notice a difference (looks wise) unless I'm standing back looking at the overall picture and I've used a product a bunch of times to know it inside and out.

One of the best things I found with the Dodo Juice line of waxes is how easy the paint is to maintain after as it offers very tight water beading and defends against the elements quite nicely.

Give it a little bit to see if it grows on you, the 250ml jar should be enough for 25+ applications if used correctly, so you'll certainly get a lot of use out of it. If not, I'm sure someone would be happy to take it off your hands at a fair price.

Hopefully this provides some insight on LSPs.

George
Thanks George! I will continue to use it, and perhaps it will grow on me. I'm also going to apply some to my mother-in-laws black Lincoln MKZ. It will be intersting to see what kind of a shine it produces on a properly prepped black vehicle.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JLTSX07


Thanks George! I will continue to use it, and perhaps it will grow on me. I'm also going to apply some to my mother-in-laws black Lincoln MKZ. It will be intersting to see what kind of a shine it produces on a properly prepped black vehicle.
Keep us posted for sure, I'm looking forward to hearing about your results and thoughts after using it a little more.

Cheers,

George
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Old May 21, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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I just noticed something, way off topic sorry, but George is only 27!! Damn that is awesome to be that age and own a supply company like DI..hats off to you man!! I'm soon to be 29, have just started to go back to college, and only thing I have to show for myself in life is a happy wife, and a small house..
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Old May 21, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mrclrider
I just noticed something, way off topic sorry, but George is only 27!! Damn that is awesome to be that age and own a supply company like DI..hats off to you man!! I'm soon to be 29, have just started to go back to college, and only thing I have to show for myself in life is a happy wife, and a small house..
Well that's definitely something worth showing for in life.
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I guess i'm just hard on myself lately..
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Old May 21, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JLTSX07


Thanks George! I will continue to use it, and perhaps it will grow on me. I'm also going to apply some to my mother-in-laws black Lincoln MKZ. It will be intersting to see what kind of a shine it produces on a properly prepped black vehicle.
With the MKZ, do maybe like what George suggested... a side by side panel comparison with 4* UPP, etc. ??? And do keep us posted with the results... I'd love to see some pics.
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Jeff,

Keep in mind too that 'nuba has a different look than what you may be used to with sealants or spray waxes. There's a warmth to it that the others just don't provide. Some sealants have a tendency to have a harsh look...almost plastic-like. To many, this gives the immediate wow-factor, but the look can get a bit fatiguing as well. The warm glow of a quality 'nuba (on a properly prepped surface as has been stated) has a much more mellow appearance...one that is very easy on the eyes. If you're used to the brilliant sealant finish, you may not like the 'nuba look...at first. The more you look at it however, the more you will really like it.
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Man I want to try some Dodo so bad but man I cant justify right now, I love my CK vanilla moose that I just got.

Update this page later tell us what you think about it
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Old May 22, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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Nuba MW? Now thats worth $20.00 !
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