jack the ex-cynic

i spent about 2 weeks looking for a type-S on autotrader/cars.com when searching for mine (last month), basically all over the east cost and midwest. i would say the least common color is MRP. KBP is also fairly rare but saw several of those and only like 2 MRPs the whole time. fair amount of the rest, less of the CGP though.

there were maybe 2 6MTs, one black, one blue (which sold before i even called the dealer).

got lucky calling a local dealer about a 5AT 07 and they told me they just got an 6MT 08 NBP...

mrusso66

there is a rediculous number of base tl's in the albany, ny area... not as many tl-s's but my NBP has at least 2 sisters, and there are a couple silver and one KBP in the immidiate area too

JTS97Z28

iTrader: (4)

I am also interested in the productions numbers for the TL-S. I just picked up a 07 KBP with Taupe/Ebony interior.

Johnny_b

Nalek,
Wish you were up in the northeast area, we could have a mini MRP Type-S meet...I don't see many at all.

LoveMyTL-S

Total 3G sales by year:

2004 - 77,895
2005 - 78,218
2006 - 71,348
2007 - 58,545
2008 - 48,766

Could not find break down by color, base or Type-S.

JwongTLS

How about MT or AT #'s?

grsd03

why can't honda just make these numbers more accessible, I see so many tl-s here in Vancouver, BC and surrounding cities that it makes me wonder if they made more tl-s than base tl's for 2008.

JTS97Z28

iTrader: (4)

Im pretty sure they didnt lol.

thedonkeyslayer

Sorry to revive this thread, but this info doesn't seem to be available anywhere. Very odd.

According to Wikipedia only 1 in 40 regular TL's sold were manual.

Based on the national searches I've been doing for a TL-S w/a manual transmission, I have to think only a couple thousand were even produced.

All of them currently for sale in the NE are NBP, ASM or CBP.

I really want WDP/Ebony, but I just found a MRP/Ebony 2007 w/36k that is peaking my interest. This has no be a very rare car.

thedonkeyslayer

I meant "This has to be a very rare car"

ChrisJ

Ok I have literally looked through all 494 threads in this section that involve "TL Type-S Production Numbers" and this is the one that got the closest to an answer...I hate digging up a 2 year old thread but its better then creating a new one...

Did anyone ever figure out a way to get production numbers?

turbo_oxide

I've got 1 '07 ASM TL-S.

Next.

tegman2

iTrader: (1)

2 07 cbp TL-S.

DaeHanMeenGuk

Why did you get two of the same color? Unless it was buy one get one free!

TVL65

Back in 07' my dealer had 3 silver TL's with auto and a blue 6spd MT. I chose silver. I know of a carbon bronze TLS a 1/2 mile away from my house & another silver TLS 3 miles away. I don't see many on the road, but when I have I've noticed most are dirty & not clean.

TVL65

I meant my dealer had 3 TL's Type S & a blue type S

JTS97Z28

iTrader: (4)

Put me in for three Type S's lol.
-07 KBP w/taupe 5at
-08 NBP w/ebony 6mt
-07 NBP w/ebony 6mt

I can vouch for how rare the 6mt Type S's are. Both of my 6mt's I had to fly out of state to purchase and drive home.

I would love to get some Type S build numbers.

James

ChrisJ

Thats what I want as well...

Has Honda/Acura ever said why they dont have them?

Anyone have any idea how to go about figuring them out? I mean I am up for database manipulation if I can find the data...

turbo_oxide

^--- haha, if it was only as simple as:

select x.color, x.transmission, x.year, count(*)
from acura.tl x
where x.model = 'S'
and x.year in ('2007','2008')
group by x.color, x.transmission, x.year

ChrisJ

Well if the data could be gathered from what each vin number digit means and have each a variable and then find all the Type-S Vin numbers it could bring us close...

But if a frog had wings it wouldn't skin its ass while hopping...

turbo_oxide

You mean this?

http://www.autoinsurancetips.com/decoding-your-vin

My last 6 digits are 010423. I wonder if that means mine is the 10,423th UA7?

rptls08

iTrader: (1)

i read through that article and it seems you are right. the last 6 digits are the number that represent what order your car came off the assembly line. mine is 001261 so im the 1,261st type s according to this site

ChrisJ

mine is 021359

But if we could get a list of all TL Type-S's we could figure out how many was made in each color and such...

turbo_oxide

You'd be the 1,261st type s of '08.

ChrisJ

19UUA76538A021359

World Manufacturer's Identification (WMI - three characters)Vehicle - 19U

Description Section (VDS - five characters) - UA765

The VIN Accuracy Check DigitVehicle Identification Section (VIS - eight characters) - 38A02135

Looks like there is a number missing though...They account for 16 letters but the car has 17...

ChrisJ

So if we could find the highest last 6 from 2007 and 2008 we could get a round about number of total made...

turbo_oxide

Found this on Honda-Tech:

Vehicle Identification Number (VIN, 1981+)
====================


The first three characters uniquely identify the manufacturer of the vehicle using the World Manufacturer Identifier (WMI) code. There are 2 methods for determining the WMI.

WMI Method 1:

1st Character: Country of Origin
A = South Africa, Ivory Coast
B = Angola, Kenya, Tanzania
C = Benin, Madagascar, Tunisia
D = Egypt, Morocco, Zambia
E = Ethiopia, Mozambique
F = Ghana, Nigeria
J = Japan
K = Sri Lanka, Israel, South Korea
L = China
M = India, Indonesia, Thailand
N = Pakistan, Turkey
P = Phillipines, Singapore, Malaysia
R = United Arab Emirates, Taiwan, Vietnam
S = Great Britain, Germany, Poland
T = Switzerland, Czech Republic, Hungary, Portugal
U = Denmark, Ireland, Romania, Slovakia
V = Austria, France, Spain, Yugoslavia, Croatia, Estonia
W = Germany
X = Bulgaria, Greece, Netherlands, Russia, Luxembourg
Y = Belgium, Finland, Malta, Sweden, Norway, Belarus, Ukraine
Z = Italy, Slovenia, Lithuania
1 = USA
2 = Canada
3 = Mexico, Costa Rica, Cayman Islands
4 = USA
5 = USA
6 = Australia
7 = New Zealand
8 = Argentina, Chile, Ecuador, Peru, Venezuela
9 = Brazil, Colombia, Paraguay, Uruguay, Trinidad & Tobago

2nd Character: Make/Manufacturer
A = Audi, Jaguar
B = BMW, Dodge
C = Chrysler
D = Mercedes
G = General Motors
H = Honda
L = Lincoln
M = Mercury
N = Nissan
P = Plymouth
T = Toyota
V = Volvo, VW
1 = Chevrolet
2 = Pontiac
3 = Oldsmobile
4 = Buick
5 = Pontiac
6 = Cadillac
7 = General Motors (Canada)
8 = Saturn

Some manufacturers use the third character as a code for a vehicle category (e.g., bus or truck), a division within a manufacturer, or both.

3rd Character: Vehicle Type
F = Honda Motorcycle, Built in USA
G = Honda Passenger Vehicle, Built in USA/Canada/Mexico/China
H = Acura Passenger Vehicle, Built in Canada
H = Honda Passenger Vehicle, Built in UK
J = Honda Light Duty Truck, Built in Canada
K = Honda Multi-purpose passenger vehicle, Built in Canada
L = Honda Multi-purpose passenger vehicle, Built in Japan
M = Honda Passenger Vehicle, Built in Japan
N = Honda Multi-purpose passenger vehicle, Built in USA
N = Acura Multi-purpose passenger vehicle, Built in Canada
P = Honda Light Duty Truck, Built in USA
R = Honda Passenger Vehicle, Built in Indonesia
S = Honda Passenger Vehicle, Built in UK
1 = Honda Motorcycle, Built in Mexico
2 = Honda Motorcycle, Built in Japan
3 = Honda ATV, Built in Japan
4 = Acura Passenger Vehicle, Built in Japan


WMI Method 2: The first character still represents the country of origin. The second character no longer represents the Make/Manufacturer, and the third character no longer represents the vehicle type. Instead, the second and third characters are combined with the first character to make a generic code.

1st through 3rd Characters:
LUC = Honda Automobile (China)
MRH = Honda Automobile (Thailand)
RKT = Honda Automobile (Taiwan)
VTM = Honda Motorcycle (Spain)
YC1 = Honda Motorcycle (Belguim)
ZDC = Honda Motorcycle (Italy)
19U = Acura CL & TL (1999+)
478 = Honda ATV (USA)
4S6 = Honda Passport (All)
5FN = Honda Odyssey (2002+) & Pilot (2005+)
5FP = Honda Ridgeline (2009+)
5J6 = Honda Element (All) and Honda CR-V
5J8 = Acura RDX (All)
93H = Honda Automobile (Brazil)
9C2 = Honda Motorcycle (Brazil)


The 4th through 9th characters in the VIN are the Vehicle Descriptor Section (VDS). This is used, according to local regulations, to identify the vehicle type and may include information on the platform used, the model, and the body style. Each manufacturer has a unique system for using this field. Most manufacturers since the 1980s have used the 8th digit to identify the engine type whenever there is more than one engine choice for the vehicle.


4th and 5th Characters: Car Line & Engine - Chassis Code (1981-1986)
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1928390

6th Character: Transmission Type (1981-1986)
2 = Semi-Hondamatic
3 = 3 Speed Automatic
4 = 4 Speed Manual
5 = 5 Speed Manual
6 = 6 Speed Manual (5 Speed Manual w/ Super Low Gear)
7 = 4 Speed Automatic

4th through 6th Characters: Car Line & Engine - Chassis Code (1987+)
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1928390

7th Character: Body Type (1981-1986)
2 = 2-door Coupe
3 = 3-door Hatchback
4 = 4-door Sedan
5 = 5-door Wagon

7th Character: Body Type & Transmission (1987-2009)
1 = 2 Door Convertible, Manual
1 = 2 Door Coupe, Manual
2 = 2 Door Coupe, Automatic or CVT
3 = 3 Door Hatchback, Manual
4 = 3 Door Hatchback, Automatic or CVT
5 = 4 Door Sedan, Manual
6 = 4 Door Sedan, Automatic or CVT
6 = 4 Door Truck, Automatic or CVT
7 = 5 Door Wagon, Manual
7 = 5 Door SUV, Manual
8 = 5 Door Wagon, Automatic or CVT
8 = 5 Door Minivan, Automatic or CVT
8 = 5 Door SUV, Automatic or CVT

7th Character: Body Type & Transmission (2010+)
A = 2 Door Convertible, Manual
A = 2 Door Coupe, Manual
B = 2 Door Coupe, Automatic or CVT
C = 3 Door Hatchback, Manual
D = 3 Door Hatchback, Automatic or CVT
E = 4 Door Sedan, Manual
F = 4 Door Sedan, Automatic or CVT
F = 4 Door Truck, Automatic or CVT
G = 5 Door Wagon, Manual
G = 5 Door SUV, Manual
H = 5 Door Wagon, Automatic or CVT
H = 5 Door Minivan, Automatic or CVT
H = 5 Door SUV, Automatic or CVT

8th Character: Grade - Trim Level

9th Character: Check Digit


The 10th through 17th characters are used as the Vehicle Identifier Section (VIS). This is used by the manufacturer to identify the individual vehicle in question. This may include information on options installed or engine and transmission choices, but often is a simple sequential number.


10th Character: Model Year
A = 1980
B = 1981
C = 1982
D = 1983
E = 1984
F = 1985
G = 1986
H = 1987
J = 1988
K = 1989
L = 1990
M = 1991
N = 1992
P = 1993
R = 1994
S = 1995
T = 1996
V = 1997
W = 1998
X = 1999
Y = 2000
1 = 2001
2 = 2002
3 = 2003
4 = 2004
5 = 2005
6 = 2006
7 = 2007
8 = 2008
9 = 2009
A = 2010
(I, O, Q, U, Z, and 0 are not used)

11th Character: Assembly Plant
A = Marysville, Ohio, USA
B = Lincoln, Alabama, USA
B = Aalst, Belgium
C = Alliston, Ontario, Canada
C = Saitama or Sayama, Japan
D = Guadalajara, Mexico
E = Greensburg, Indiana, USA
E = Montesa, Spain
F = Atessa, Italy
F = Ping Tung Factory, Taiwan
H = Alliston, Ontario, Canada
J = Karawang Factory, Indonesia
K = Kumamoto, Japan
L = East Liberty, Ohio, USA
M = Hamamatsu, Japan
P = Ayutthaya Factory, Thailand
R = Manaus, Brazil
S = Suzuka, Japan
T = Tochigi, Japan
U = Swindon, England
X = El Salto, Mexico
Z = Sao Paulo, Brazil
1 = Manaus, Brazil
2 = Guangzhou Factory, China
3 = Huangpu Guangzhou Factory, China
4 = Timmonsville, South Carolina, USA

The 12th through 17th characters represent the Production Sequence Number. It starts at 000001 and goes up with each vehicle produced.

12th Character: Market Specification Number
While still part of the Production Sequence Number, this digit can vary based on market. For example, the Production Sequence Number for CDM Preludes from 1997-2001 starts with an 8.

turbo_oxide

19UUA76538A021359

You have the 21,359th '08 Acura TL-S with an automatic transmission trim level 5(??) manufactured in Marysville, OH.

However, we don't know if the last 6 digits are contingent on any of the previous characters like if it's only based on 19U or does it take UA7 into account.

Guiltyox

Two most common TL-S colors: WDP and NBP
Two rarest TL-S colors I've been told: MRP and CBP

I've never seen another CBP 6MT TL-S in person, other than my own 2008:

039028 = the last 6 digits of my VIN.

ChrisJ

So what we really need is a bigger DB of vins...Once I get done eating lunch I will scrounge through the 3G checkin thread and see if I can grab any...maybe this can actually be done if we work hard enough on it...

JTS97Z28

iTrader: (4)

Thats definately not true as far as CBP being one of the rarest TL-S colors. You are right about about the others though. Basically it goes like this.
Most common are:
NBP, WDP, and ASM, and CBP. From my own personal sitings here around Chicago the most common are NBP and CBP.

The two rarest colors without a doubt are MRP and KBP.

Carbon Bronze is actually a pretty common TL-S color (and even more so on the base TL). Great color though and it looks outstanding on the TL-S.

James

Guiltyox

Heres my VIN: 19UUA75528A039028 '08 6MT CBP TL-S.

Guiltyox

Hrmm, I've never seen another CBP 6MT TL-S around here. I've only seen 1 AT version. I've seen 2 WDP TL-S's, both AT as well.

ChrisJ

First 3 = WMI
4/5/6 = Car Line & Engine - Chassis Code
7 = Body Type/Transmission
8 = Trim Level
9 = Check Digit
10 = Model Year
11 = Assembly Plant
12 = Market Specific Number
12/13/14/15/16/17 = Production Sequence

So

19UUA76538A021359 breaks down like this...

WMI = 19U
Car Line & Engine - Chassis Code = UA7
Body Type/Transmission = 6
Trim Level = 5
Check Digit = 3
Model Year = 8
Assembly Plant = A
Market Specific Number = 0
Production Sequence = 021359

rptls08

iTrader: (1)

im bored at work and have nothing better to do so im in the process of sending acura an email to see if they can give me any info...

Franchise1124

I'm kinda curious on this. 009941 are my last 6 on my 07 KBP 6spd.

ChrisJ

I got to the bottom of page 22 on the check in thread...And this is what I have found...

TL-S (07)
violarx - P#999 - xxxxx - ASM
Acurasan072 - P#1000 - 053xx - NBP
Pika817 - P#1004 - xxxxx - NBP
gumba72 - P#1007 - 007406 - ASM
Bucket-bandito - P#1009 - xxxxx - ASM
TypeS Racer - P#1012 - 05016 - ASM
neiljps - P#1015 - 55832 - WDP
jtconte - P#1018 - 07188 - ASM
phatblkride97 - P#1044 - 15443 - KBP
SANS-TLS - P#1051 - 119XX - ASM
NTP66 - P#1057 - xxxxx - ASM
joelsaxton - P#1067 - 53403 - NBP
mreyes69 - P#1073 - 104xx - CBP
Shomeda$ - P#1079 - xxxxx - ASM
badazzTL-S - P#1083 - XXXXX - WDP
mr.almeida - P#1090 - XXXXX - NBP
TouringAltimaLuxury - P#1091 - XXXXX - CBP
BryanOut - P#1091 - 09603 - WDP
Bochsita - P#1094 - XXXXX - NBP
MKE Squid - P#1104 - XXXXX - CBP
gbugler - P#1105 - 04XXX - ASM
jayw07tls - P#1106 - XXXXX - NBP
kbosch74 - P#1110 - XXXXX - CBP
donc - P#1112 - 07192 - ASM
fastlarry - P#1114 - 18XXX - MRP
triton3k - P#1117 - 01731 - NBP
TL-SNyPE - P#1122 - XXXXX - ASM
Nerfherder - P#1124 - 17XXX - WDP
mantrika - P#1125 - XXXXX - ASM
Acuraboy7 - P#1129 - XXXXX - CBP
acuritis - P#1131 - 04XXX - ASM
Puttinstankonia - P#1132 - 04XXX - NBP
blazinginder - P#1140 - XXXXX - ASM
pravin.george - P#1142 - XXXXX - NBP
TLsupperstar - P#1148 - XXXXX - NBP
Modulus - P#1152 - XXXXX - KBP
MMJK84 - P#1153 - XXXXX - NBP
nextech - P#1161 - XXXXX - KBP
Annsue - P#1165 - XXXXX - CBP
camporealer - P#1167 - XXXXX - KBP
tupacboy1 - P#1168 - XXXXX - KBP
IWanna04TL - P#1172 - XXXXX - NBP
ESBY - P#1174 - 08122 - CBP
virafp - P#1175 - XXXXX - NBP
Anansi - P#1177 - 02501 - NBP
iLuvKira - P#1178 - 10412 - ASM
killerisme - P#1179 - 32966 - CBP
RedHOT411 - P#1184 - XXXXX - KBP
tedo - P#1186 - XXXXX - NBP
shooter - P#1187 - XXXXX - NBP
mike_chung - P#1188 - XXXXX - NBP
350TLS - P#1190 - 064XX - ASM
andytsai - P#1197 - 07567 - WDP
bladymess - P#1202 - 008XX - WDP
Bearcat94 - P#1203 - 096XX - WDP
cheetos - P#1204 - 365XX - CBP
jhurlbut - P#1205 - XXXXX - CBP
batdude - P#1206 - XXXXX - KBP
SLOWBRA - P#1210 - XXXXX - CBP

I dont think the last 6 are just TL Type-S I think that is the # it was in TOTAL TL's...

ChrisJ

Name - POST NUMBER - Last 6 of VIN - COLOR

GTsetGO

do you want me to post mine even though i already gave it to you?

ChrisJ

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...t=Type&page=50