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Old 09-25-2011, 05:03 PM
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? for those who are running LED Rear Turn Signals

Hey, I'm planning on buying some rear turn signals for my 08 Base TL and I was wondering what color are most of you running for the rear turn signals?

I remember reading awhile back on another website indicating that if you plan on purchasing LED's for the brake lights or turn signals, it's recommended to get the bulb color to match the diffusing housing color.

IE - On some cars, the brake light area is red (Think of the 04-06 tail lights). Since the brake light area is red, I was told that you should get red LED's instead because if you get white, the red diffuser in the brake housing will filter out every color except for red and when using a WHITE led bulb it will result in a much lighter red color, almost pink. I've witnessed this on other peoples cars while driving.

I went outside to inspect my base 08 tail lights, and while looking at my turn signal area I noticed it does have a red diffuser or lense (sorry if i'm calling it the wrong term). I'm kinda worried that throwing a 68SMD or 96SMD WHITE LED in it's place will result in a pink as heck color.

So for the members on here that are running WHITE or RED LED's in the rear turn signals, can you post pictures or just let me know what you think?

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Just incase someone else is wondering or also interested, here are the bulbs I was looking at

7440 - 68SMD - WHITE - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2X-T2...#ht_4518wt_907
7440 - 96SMD - WHITE http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/7443-...item35b343277d

7440 - 68SMD - RED - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2x-74...item3cbc72c408

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Old 09-25-2011, 05:06 PM
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I have 07-08 base tails (chrome housing with red diffuser). I'm using red LEDs from autolumination, no problems, about 3 years going strong.
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Don't get white leds for the rear turn signals. /thread
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Hmmm, is there anyone out there that is currently running white LEDs for the rear turn signal and can chime in and let me know how you feel about them?

If you would prefer to get red instead, and or why?
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I have VLEDS red units. Go with the reds and you don't have to worry about pink.
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Also how many number of LEDs are you guys running in the rear? I want something comparable to OEM or brighter.

I see

48 SMD
54 SMD
60 SMD
68 SMD
120 SMD

Any suggestions?
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Ended up purchasing 2x of these - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=380371818928

I didn't really like the idea of having white as my rear turn signals because i plan on getting my tail lights done soon, and if I do decide to get the lense tinted from red to black a red led bulb would look more like a turn signal still
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In some really cases, at certain angles, it might bleed white light. Otherwise it will indeed be pink. And I'm sure you don't want pink.
So you went with the right decision going for the red LEDs.

I put a 68SMD LED in my turn signals [they are yellow] and it became very pale. The yellow color was very light as opposed to halogens.

Also our rear turn signals are 7440----but 7443s MIGHT still work.
And I say MIGHT because I put in a [burnt] 68SMD switchback in the rear and it still worked. [the amber solders were burnt and it only lit-and-flashed white].


And lastly, on another note, make sure you install resistors. I highly recommend Roger505's resistor modification. Seen here: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/g-109-diy-eliminate-led-bulb-induced-hyper-flashing-without-load-resistors-815219/

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Originally Posted by o4Komodo
In some really cases, at certain angles, it might bleed white light. Otherwise it will indeed be pink. And I'm sure you don't want pink.
So you went with the right decision going for the red LEDs.

I put a 68SMD LED in my turn signals [they are yellow] and it became very pale. The yellow color was very light as opposed to halogens.

Also our rear turn signals are 7440----but 7443s MIGHT still work.
And I say MIGHT because I put in a [burnt] 68SMD switchback in the rear and it still worked. [the amber solders were burnt and it only lit-and-flashed white].


And lastly, on another note, make sure you install resistors. I highly recommend Roger505's resistor modification. Seen here: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=815219
Thanks Komodo. You're right, I didn't want to risk getting WHITE LEDs for my rear only to see it look not stock, white, pale, or almost pink.

As for the resistor mod, I PMed a member and bought a 0.24ohm resistor off of him for $1/ea and it should be coming in anyday now. Thanks for the heads up!
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What is smd? I found some that are 7440 18smd and 7440 40smd? sorry if is a dumb question. Is that the count of leds? any of you have any pics?
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SMD stands for Surface Mount Diode and is referring to how many diodes are on the tree. 1 SMD = 3 LED's

Basically the more SMD a bulb is, the brighter it will be.

For pics just google search images or check on eBay.
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Actually, SMD just refers to a surface mounted device =)

Lumens is the term for brightness.

The 18 SMD means there are 18 LEDs on the board.
The 40 SMD means there are 40 LEDs on the board.
So yes, you're right about it being the count of how many LEDs are on it.

I wish the more LEDs are on the board the brighter they are.
I have 120 SMD LEDs on each of my turn signal bulbs.

Lets just say they are not as bright as the V3 Tritons, or even the 60 SMD LEDs I saw my friend had on his switchbacks.

Pictures:

18SMD LED board:



9 SMD wedge bulbs:



My 120 SMD bulbs:



SMD doesn't only apply to LEDs, all the resistors and capacitors in your smartphone are SMD.

Here's an SMD resistor:





Here's a non-SMD resistor:



Oh, and here's a non-SMD LED:



Hope that helps your understanding =)

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holy cow what a bump. Completely forgot I posted this thread ha
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Only get red LED for the rear turns. Tower LEDs are junk! I haven't tried so many types and not only do they typically have horrible output especially in any sort of sunlight, but there are so many LEDs mounted on those they just look terrible inside the housings. Do it right the first time and be done with it..... VLed V3 Triton! See my thread and you will be sold! They are incredible bulbs.

Edit: Lol I see someone brought this thread up from the dead. Back when this thread started they didn't have the V3 Tritons, but anyway what I said above is still 100% true.
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V3 Tritons from VLEDs.
Expensive but very very bright in day time.
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get the triton v3 leds if you want top of the line. I got a pair of leds from my local lighting store they are kinda close to the v3's but for 1/3 of the price. if you want to be brightest and baddest got to go with the v3 tritons though
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V led triton if you want to be safe!
Non informative turn signal bulbs can create possible problem IF, IF! You get involved in car accident.
Whatever seller say and promise -final responsibilities is yours! IMHO
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my turn sigs have been cleared and i run amber on them, loving them since
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Definitely do the VLed V3 Tritons you will not be disappointed.
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Originally Posted by bforbrian
I have 07-08 base tails (chrome housing with red diffuser). I'm using red LEDs from autolumination, no problems, about 3 years going strong.
What base type did you get? I'm looking at some red LED's from V-LED but they want to know the base type? either standard or a CK base...?
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The TL uses standard 7440 rear turn signals
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VLED V3 Triton or none at all. Nothing comes even close to comparing! End of story.
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^ Yeah but I cant justify spending $200 on some freaking "light bulb."
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Got my rear 42 SMD LED towers from China for like $5 shipped and they are bright enough for other cars to see I'm signaling
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I ran with the towers in the front and the back for a few months. I decided to upgrade to the Tritons after numerous close calls with people almost T-boning me thinking i was going to head straight instead of left.

Believe me, nobody can see that christmas toy led tower with the sun out.
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Originally Posted by story05
Got my rear 42 SMD LED towers from China for like $5 shipped and they are bright enough for other cars to see I'm signaling
Next time you get a chance during the middle of the day with the sun out nice and bright go turn on your turn signal and walk back about 50+ feet and see how bright they actually look.... I had 68 red SMD towers for my rear turn signal for a very long time and when you press your brake pedal your brake lights will OVER POWER the turn signal. Anytime the brake lights are engaged the turn signal is hard to see.

Try these - http://www.vleds.com/bulb/7443-7440-...43-21-red.html

Originally Posted by 1black_seven
I ran with the towers in the front and the back for a few months. I decided to upgrade to the Tritons after numerous close calls with people almost T-boning me thinking i was going to head straight instead of left.

Believe me, nobody can see that christmas toy led tower with the sun out.
This guy speaks the truth. Like I said above I had 68 SMD towers in red (92SMD isn't much of a difference in brightness) and I've seen it for myself. I let my brother drive my car and I drove his car behind mine and saw it for myself. It doesn't grab your attention like LEDs are supposed to. Very hard to see.

Originally Posted by JTS97Z28
VLED V3 Triton or none at all. Nothing comes even close to comparing! End of story.
I have tritons for my front turn signals. They are switchbacks. I admit that they are very bright but for my rear turn signals I have these

http://www.vleds.com/bulb/7443-7440-...43-21-red.html

and I believe that they are the 2nd best alternative. It puts tower leds to shame.

Tritons in red are rated at 210 lumens. $100
The ones I've been linking has 170 Lumens. $50

40 lumens isn't really a big difference to be paying $50 extra for..

red Tower LEDs are probably 50 lumens max

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^ Yeah but I cant justify spending $200 on some freaking "light bulb."
http://www.vleds.com/bulb/7443-7440-...43-21-red.html
http://www.vleds.com/bulb/7443-7440-...43-21-red.html
http://www.vleds.com/bulb/7443-7440-...43-21-red.html

lol
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Soooo for brake lights.... Any way to get them brighter? I smoked out the tails and the brake lights aren't THAT bright... And I don't want to "un-smoke" them...
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brake lights are part of the oem led board....no plug and play option unfortunately
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Originally Posted by vietxquangstah
Next time you get a chance during the middle of the day with the sun out nice and bright go turn on your turn signal and walk back about 50+ feet and see how bright they actually look.... I had 68 red SMD towers for my rear turn signal for a very long time and when you press your brake pedal your brake lights will OVER POWER the turn signal. Anytime the brake lights are engaged the turn signal is hard to see.

Try these - http://www.vleds.com/bulb/7443-7440-...43-21-red.html

Those are the bulbs I was looking at. My only question is what base type do I need? It says there is a 'standard base' or a 'ck base'. I'm assuming the standard but I'd hate to waste time ordering the wrong ones. Which ones worked for you?
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the only manufacturer that uses CK style is primarily Toyota's. get standard
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Originally Posted by vietxquangstah
the only manufacturer that uses CK style is primarily Toyota's. get standard
Awesome, i'm on the site now ordering! Thanks for the input
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Originally Posted by JTS97Z28
VLED V3 Triton or none at all. Nothing comes even close to comparing! End of story.
Damnit man, I was about to hit order when I decided to look into the Triton one more time. I saw them when they first came out and didn't give it a second thought. When I found your thread showing the diff from what I was about to get I started getting excited. Then I saw they have a lifetime warranty...sold. You convinced me...I'm stoked to get them.

P.S.

The car looks sick. We'll have to meet up soon, i'd like to see it in person. I live/work close to where you live.
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