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Old 11-06-2003 | 08:57 AM
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OK, got the 9006 bulbs tonight and replaced the fog lights with Max Gold Xenons from MidnightMoose.com.

Here is a link of photos that I took, did best under the rainy conditions (head/fog not clean as I drove to lot to take photos).

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?i...12&mode=invite

Here is an example of a close up (photo album also has various distances):





Looks even better in person! Enjoy!

Sorry I could not post till now as the site was down late last night
Old 11-06-2003 | 09:25 AM
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Cool

Very cool. I hope mine from Prolarg look as good.
Old 11-06-2003 | 09:28 AM
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I am sure they will as long as you did not get the ION bulbs (they are a pale yellow, almost cream color when on.

Have fun!
Old 11-06-2003 | 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by agreziv
I just ordered a set of "max gold" from midnight moose.. I got a set of "xenon gold" bulbs instead of "max gold" fawk! these xenon ones say the project a high intensity "white light".. damn it, i don't want a white light, i want fully gold... so should I put them on my car or... e-mail the guy to see if he can get me a set of max gold and sent it back..?
agreziv, not to worry, the photos posted above are the "Xenon Gold" by max, they must have changed there packaging, but used the wording from thier blue/white bulbs, not very reassuring.

After looking at the bulbs, I knew there was now way of using a yellow coating to make them blue white.

If you like the photos above, then install them, durring the day, they do not look quite as yellow as the reflector mixes in the white light from the sun, but you can still tell they are yellow.

I would say the color is more like the original TL and the old vigor.
Old 11-06-2003 | 11:30 AM
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http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4288658963 those are a few pictures that I took when I installed them..
Old 11-06-2003 | 11:34 AM
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Exclamation Installation Tips!

OK, here are the installation tips:

It took me 30 minutes for the first time, and less than 20 for the two times after that (I did not like the first yellow bulbs). The procedure looks worse than it really is, I am just trying to provide as much detail as possible.

WARNING -

As with all head light bulbs, the bulb of a Halogen bulb is under pressure (gas inside) and is important to remove any oils or dirt on the glass or the bulb may fail very early, or shatter inside headlight. Also, if the glass is scratched, it may explode inside the headlight. NEVER turn on the halogen bulb when outside the headlight!

Things needed:

Pair of thin work or rubber gloves to prevent hands from getting cuts (got them the first time), things are tight and there are a lot of metal edges around. Use them when removing and installing bulbs. Not essential, but keeps your hands in better shape.

Dry, soft cloth without any oil or moisturizer (used to wipe bulb clean before installing, this is important to remove any oils or dirt or the bulb may fail very early, or shatter inside headlight )

!!!!Owner’s manual - read section on fog lamp replacement first and notice direction to turn bulb for removal!

Note, when completed, bulbs and connectors face towards radiator (each side is facing the other bulb).

Start on passenger side first (easier to do)

See owner’s manual!

1. Pull up on black plastic cover behind headlight, it will unsnap from its mounting location (you need to pull). There are 6 mounting clips, pull up on front or rear section, there are two pins at each corner that fit in mounting holes, then pull up on side against fender (these are lock tabs).

2. Remove white power connector from lamp by pushing on button located on edge closest to wires (hard to see, but is ridged for grip), then pull straight out of lamp (it is on a 90 degree angle, so pull towards radiator) while holding button down.

Put gloves on.

3. Remove lamp by twisting black part that is left at back of bulb (where white connector came out of). Twist counter clockwise when looking at back of bulb (towards front of car), see owners manual for drawing.

4. Bulb is tight, turn approx 1/8 of a turn until it comes loose, then pull straight back from headlight housing (do not touch glass with hands!)

5. Clean glass portion of new bulb with clean dry cloth by gently rubbing it (do not scratch the glass)

6. Do not touch glass after cleaning, if you do, re-clean! Insert back into hole in headlight (look through front of fog light to see bulb line up with hole) in original orientation when pulled out (wiggle bulb and turn left and right until it fits against housing) and turn 1/8 of turn until bulb is firmly secured.

Take off gloves

7. Reconnect white connector with button side facing engine until a click is heard from the button.

8. Test fog light (Warning - do not test bulb outside of headlight as the halogen bulb is under pressure and may shatter if scratched, or if it gets wet, or has oil on the surface).

9. Reinstall black cover by lining up tabs next to fender first, then line up the two posts on the rear, then front and push down on top of them to go into holes.

Driver’s side replacement:

See owner’s manual! Picture shown is this side as it is more complex.

1. Remove black plastic behind headlight. First push tab on side closest to engine, next to battery, then pull up black plastic, there is one more tab next to fender, and two posts behind headlight. Firmly pull up.

2. Locate black cover/box between battery and head light, there are two black pins at the top, pull those towards battery straight out (remove one at a time to avoid dropping them into the engine compartment/frame) and remove the pin/clamp from the hole in the black plastic box, then repeat for other one (store pins separately so as not to loose them, away from car). Pull black/cover box up out of area (wiggle slightly to get it out)

3. CAI upper tube removal (see owners manual) is next, bellow the black box is a round tube that you can look down into (this is the input tube of the Cold Air Intake from the front bumper (the black cover is the mixing chamber, and the air intake to the car is in the drivers fender, this area allows water to escape to prevent vapor lock). You have to remove this tube (which is just the upper section). Wiggle the tube back and forth while pulling up on it until it unlocks from the lower tube (it has a lip on it that inter locks with the lower tube by friction fit) and pull it out of the car.

4. OK, now for the bulb.

5. Remove white power connector from lamp by pushing on button located on edge closest to wires (hard to see, but is ridged for grip), then pull straight out of lamp (it is on a 90 degree angle, so pull towards radiator) while holding button down.

Put gloves on.

6. Remove lamp by twisting black part that is left at back of bulb (where white connector came out of). Twist counter clockwise when looking at back of bulb (towards front of car), see owners manual for drawing.

7. Bulb is tight, turn approx 1/8 of a turn until it comes loose, then pull straight back from headlight housing (do not touch glass with hands!)

8. Clean glass portion of new bulb with clean dry cloth by gently rubbing it (do not scratch the glass)

9. Do not touch glass after cleaning! Insert back into hole in headlight (look through front of fog light to see bulb line up with hole) in original orientation when pulled out (wiggle bulb and turn left and right until it fits against housing) and turn 1/8 of turn until bulb is firmly secured.

Take off gloves

10. Reconnect white connector with button side facing engine until a click is heard from button.

11. Test fog light (Warning - do not test bulb outside of headlight as the halogen bulb is under pressure and may shatter if scratched, or if it gets wet, or has oil on the surface).

12. Reinstall CAI tube, it has a tab on the bottom of it, that fits into two notches on the lower tube located towards front of car near radiator (on tube that was not removed), these must be lined up to properly go back together (mine had white paint on the top of the three mating tabs so to see easier from factory). Push upper tube back into lower tube with these three tabs lined up. It will click into place, but you must rock it back and forth to get it to fully insert (make sure tabs line up).

13. Reinstall black box/cover (without plastic pins or you can loose them), once in position, insert one pin at a time through the mounting hole, into the hole in the frame, then repeat for other pin. Make sure the pins snap fully into the plastic sleave.

14 Reinstall black cover by lining up tab next to fender first, then tab near battery, then line up the two posts on the front and push down on top of them to go into holes.

Done!
Old 11-12-2003 | 06:39 PM
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Lites look great!.. how much were they ? anybody else get pricing on the net?
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Old 11-15-2003 | 03:32 PM
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The Max Gold Xenons arrived today. It took about 20 minutes to install them, very easy. They look better in person than in any of the pictures that have been taken.

It is light out, so I don't have any comments on how well they work yet. They work well in my garage though.

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Old 11-15-2003 | 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by zexi
Lites look great!.. how much were they ? anybody else get pricing on the net?
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I do I do. but don't expect to to have any discount. Everything based on MSRP.
Trust me. It worth every dime... I LOVE MY TL!!
Old 11-15-2003 | 11:55 PM
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Lites look great!.. how much were they ? anybody else get pricing on the net?
2004 Anthasite/Ebony 6 speed Nav ..LOVE THIS RIDE !!!!!!!!
I think you are asking about the light price, it is 19.99 a pair of 9006 Max Gold Xenons from www.midnightmoose.com, with shipping to NY, they were just south of $25, a cheep price for any 9006 bulbs.

Good luck!
Old 11-15-2003 | 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by acura_driver
The Max Gold Xenons arrived today. It took about 20 minutes to install them, very easy. They look better in person than in any of the pictures that have been taken.

It is light out, so I don't have any comments on how well they work yet. They work well in my garage though.

-r
acura_driver, congrats on the conversion!

Did you use my instructions? If so, any comments?

Glad to see it only took 20 min to install!
Old 11-16-2003 | 12:46 PM
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acura_driver, congrats on the conversion!

Did you use my instructions? If so, any comments?

Glad to see it only took 20 min to install!
need4spd,

Yes, I had a printout of your directions in the garage, and I read them before starting. They were helpful, and accurate. Thanks again for writing them!

It is a bit difficult to insert the new bulbs since visibility is limited. I used an AOL CD as a mirror placed below, which made it much easier. I finally found a use for those discs that come in the mail!

-r
Old 11-17-2003 | 01:14 PM
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Polarg 9006 Pure Yellow 55W Headlight Light Bulbs

Hacksawhilliard,

Have you installed your Polarg bulbs yet? Any pics?

For anyone with bulb knowledge, there is a big price difference in bulbs. Are the Polarg's worth the extra money VS. the Max Gold???
Old 11-17-2003 | 11:51 PM
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Re: Polarg 9006 Pure Yellow 55W Headlight Light Bulbs

Originally posted by brandomc
Hacksawhilliard,

Have you installed your Polarg bulbs yet? Any pics?

For anyone with bulb knowledge, there is a big price difference in bulbs. Are the Polarg's worth the extra money VS. the Max Gold???
I have the bulbs but have not installed them yet. They were pricy. I hope they're worth it. I should have them installed this week sometime.
Old 11-18-2003 | 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by acura_driver
need4spd,

Yes, I had a printout of your directions in the garage, and I read them before starting. They were helpful, and accurate. Thanks again for writing them!

It is a bit difficult to insert the new bulbs since visibility is limited. I used an AOL CD as a mirror placed below, which made it much easier. I finally found a use for those discs that come in the mail!

-r
Thanks, I am glad they were of help!

I used the light passing from the front to the back of the head light to see the hole, and also viewed from the front, but I can deffinately see the advantages of the mirror finish of the AOL CD!!!
Old 12-02-2003 | 11:30 AM
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I just installed the Max Golds this weekend and have been using them the last couple days/nights in the rain. Thanks for all the install tips - took me about 15 minutes for both. However, I did break a retaining clip from the driver side cover (the one that attaches to the battery). Hope it doesn't rattle too much. Any recommendations for a replacement part? Local dealer will probably charge arm & leg.

Anyways, here's my review of the bulbs after 2 days of rain driving. Aesthetically they look good...not great. The yellow distinguishes it from the HIDs so people won't think your high-beaming. So in that sense, it serves our purpose. Lighting performance, on the other hand, is non-existent. While driving at night in the rain, I kept switching them off and on and could barely tell a difference. Maybe it's the location of the lights, but I'm thinking it's more the bulbs. And the gold color is near non-existent. You may be able to see a hint of yellow, but that's it. The only way you can tell they're on is if you pull up to someone's bumper and see the reflection. Or get out of the car and take a look at the front end. I am very disappointed in these bulbs, but for $20/pair, I guess you get what you paid for. I will keep them for a while until I find some decent replacements - probably with PIAAs from my past experience. Just my two cents...and $20 wasted.

Hacksaw - You ever get your Polargs installed? Any pics? How's the performance?
Old 12-02-2003 | 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by BigBluu

Hacksaw - You ever get your Polargs installed? Any pics? How's the performance?
Oh Crap, no I haven't. Sorry guys. Been too busy. I just need to make the time to install them. Maybe this week. Once I do however, I will post pics.
Old 12-02-2003 | 02:00 PM
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installed the max gold xenon's last night.
they look great and i didn't get flashed once during the test drive.
thanks for the tip!
Old 12-02-2003 | 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by supergreen
installed the max gold xenon's last night.
they look great and i didn't get flashed once during the test drive.
thanks for the tip!

So what are your thoughts on its performance?
Old 12-02-2003 | 03:44 PM
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I installed the Max Gold's and I am very happy with the look and performance. Being next to the Zeon's I can't see how would think you would see a great difference in the over all brightness.
I like the look and I am not searching for a better or more expensive bulb.
Old 12-02-2003 | 04:00 PM
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So what are your thoughts on its performance?
they work fine. no better or worse than the oem bulbs... just yellow so i don't get flashed by oncoming traffic.
Old 12-02-2003 | 04:27 PM
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Just back from the trip to HK, and bought a pair of Polarg that I mentioned earlier in this thread. Installed. Look a lot more yellowish of course, better than the original not white not yellow halogen color.
Old 12-02-2003 | 06:59 PM
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For those clearly trying to replicate the Lexus look of yellow fogs, the bulbs are clear, the housing is green. We've tried multiple setups of bulbs and none truly match the hue of the OEM setup. THe PIAAs are the best in our opinion for the yellow look.
Old 12-22-2003 | 07:50 PM
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I've been using the Max Gold on my 02 for quite some time now. I have tried every other yellow/gold bulb on the market and this is wthout a doubt the best one. You'll be satisfied.
Have you tried the Polarg Max Yellow? Please note, NOT the [/B]Polarg Gold Bulb[/B], which doesn't have yellow glass. The glass on the Max Yellow is actually a shade yellower than the Max Gold, but at 4x the price, probably last longer. I actually ordered a pair of the Polarg but they were out of stock for more than 3 weeks, so under salesman's recommendation (he said similar technology between PIAA & Polarg, but PIAA 55W=110W), I bought PIAA Ion Plasma Yellow for $5 less. That was a big mistake, as the PIAA has an output similar to the 04 TL's headlight, with a yellow band near top of beam pattern. Makes me wonder whether the TL's headlights were designed for all weather? Also tried PIAA XTRA ION-CRYSTAL 55W=85W & Heliolite 2500K All weather (both H-3 for Maxima), they all about same. Love to hear any comments on experiences with the bulbs you tried. Thanks.
Old 12-22-2003 | 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by jshih57
Have you tried the Polarg Max Yellow? Please note, NOT the Polarg Gold Bulb[/B], which doesn't have yellow glass. The glass on the Max Yellow is actually a shade yellower than the Max Gold, but at 4x the price, probably last longer. I actually ordered a pair of the Polarg but they were out of stock for more than 3 weeks, so under salesman's recommendation (he said similar technology between PIAA & Polarg, but PIAA 55W=110W), I bought PIAA Ion Plasma Yellow for $5 less. That was a big mistake, as the PIAA has an output similar to the 04 TL's headlight, with a yellow band near top of beam pattern. Makes me wonder whether the TL's headlights were designed for all weather? Also tried PIAA XTRA ION-CRYSTAL 55W=85W & Heliolite 2500K All weather (both H-3 for Maxima), they all about same. Love to hear any comments on experiences with the bulbs you tried. Thanks. [/B]
Stay away from the Ion bulbs, they only produce a faint yellow, off white look with a prismatic rainbow effect that blinds on comming traffic even more as they go through the different colors.

Use a bulb with dark yellow glass to get the true yellow look.

I did the Ion's first, and you could not even tell they were on, or yellow (look at page one of this thread for photo).

With the Max gold it came closer to what I was looking for, not perfect, but for $20 hard to beat. With the high output of the HID head lights it will be nearly impossible to see ANY fog light difference, but on the sides, it is most noticable and you can see the yellow color.

My main goal was not to get high beamed when they are on and that has worked well (none since installed).
Old 12-22-2003 | 11:04 PM
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I just installed the Max Golds this weekend and have been using them the last couple days/nights in the rain. Thanks for all the install tips - took me about 15 minutes for both. However, I did break a retaining clip from the driver side cover (the one that attaches to the battery). Hope it doesn't rattle too much. Any recommendations for a replacement part? Local dealer will probably charge arm & leg.

Anyways, here's my review of the bulbs after 2 days of rain driving. Aesthetically they look good...not great. The yellow distinguishes it from the HIDs so people won't think your high-beaming. So in that sense, it serves our purpose. Lighting performance, on the other hand, is non-existent. While driving at night in the rain, I kept switching them off and on and could barely tell a difference. Maybe it's the location of the lights, but I'm thinking it's more the bulbs. And the gold color is near non-existent. You may be able to see a hint of yellow, but that's it. The only way you can tell they're on is if you pull up to someone's bumper and see the reflection. Or get out of the car and take a look at the front end. I am very disappointed in these bulbs, but for $20/pair, I guess you get what you paid for. I will keep them for a while until I find some decent replacements - probably with PIAAs from my past experience. Just my two cents...and $20 wasted.

Hacksaw - You ever get your Polargs installed? Any pics? How's the performance?
Bigbluu, sorry you had the issue. I would tell the dealer it came that way, even so, it should not break as you need to open it to check on the battery, have them replace it.

I have had mind off about a dozen times and had no breaks.

Sorry you were disappointed with the bulbs.
Old 12-28-2003 | 12:56 AM
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I bought a set of Sylvania Silver Star 9006 for my Accord. It is bright, very white and street legal. It is very close to HID in color. I am planning to replace the driving lights on my 04 TL with this. It is cost $19.99 each.

With the silver star, the driving lights will blend well with the HIDs.
Old 12-28-2003 | 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by jshih57
Have you tried the Polarg Max Yellow? Please note, NOT the Polarg Gold Bulb[/B], which doesn't have yellow glass. The glass on the Max Yellow is actually a shade yellower than the Max Gold, but at 4x the price, probably last longer. [/B]
I have the Polarg Pure Yellow. I wonder what the difference is? And no I haven't installed them yet. Now I have to get my tools back from my son.
Old 12-28-2003 | 05:29 PM
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Bigbluu,
I just installed the PIAA Ion-plasma yellow (55W = 100W), passenger side only. Just like you stated, hardly notice any difference unless you walk to the front of car, but noticeable differece (more golden) compared to the stock halogen on the driver side. Actually, looks a lot like our HID headlights because they both have yellow band on top of beam pattern (when looking from inside car)! I think need4speed is right, the plasma-ions not as good as the yellow max, eventhough the PIAA is 4x the price.
I also might have broke a clip but it was on passenger side, since it was easier on that side, I tried it 1st. Not quite sure how to remove the cover, so I forced a bit. Still have not installed the driver side, as I still can't get the CAI tube off, either I'm not strong enough or I'm afraid to break some other stuff. Anyway, my car was a demo, I brought it back (car with cover removed) to dealer & told them it came like that & was rattling in hood. Service dept took a look & they agreed to order another cover, no cost to me. Didn't even care I had a yellowish bulb on that side.
Old 12-28-2003 | 08:48 PM
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Just replaced the driving/fog lamps with the SilverStar 9006. What a pain to replace 2 bulbs!

Anyhow, the light is a lot whiter than the stock bulb. It is brighter too. I recommend this for folks who prefer the white light over the yellow.
Old 12-28-2003 | 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by jshih57
Bigbluu,
I just installed the PIAA Ion-plasma yellow (55W = 100W), passenger side only. Just like you stated, hardly notice any difference unless you walk to the front of car, but noticeable differece (more golden) compared to the stock halogen on the driver side. Actually, looks a lot like our HID headlights because they both have yellow band on top of beam pattern (when looking from inside car)! I think need4speed is right, the plasma-ions not as good as the yellow max, eventhough the PIAA is 4x the price.
I also might have broke a clip but it was on passenger side, since it was easier on that side, I tried it 1st. Not quite sure how to remove the cover, so I forced a bit. Still have not installed the driver side, as I still can't get the CAI tube off, either I'm not strong enough or I'm afraid to break some other stuff. Anyway, my car was a demo, I brought it back (car with cover removed) to dealer & told them it came like that & was rattling in hood. Service dept took a look & they agreed to order another cover, no cost to me. Didn't even care I had a yellowish bulb on that side.
To remove the CAI tube, you have to rock it back and forth while pulling up on it per my instructions early in this post. yes, it will come up. The clips were not that fragile in my car.
Old 12-29-2003 | 02:33 AM
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Originally posted by need4spd
To remove the CAI tube, you have to rock it back and forth while pulling up on it per my instructions early in this post. yes, it will come up. The clips were not that fragile in my car.
Thanks for the info. Yes, I saw your instructions, much more detailed than the info in owner's manual.
just 1 more question, to be sure, which way do I rock the CAI tube, back & forth front to rear or left to right? Thanks again.
Old 12-29-2003 | 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by jshih57
Thanks for the info. Yes, I saw your instructions, much more detailed than the info in owner's manual.
just 1 more question, to be sure, which way do I rock the CAI tube, back & forth front to rear or left to right? Thanks again.
From what I remember, it was kind of not north/south or east/west but more of north-east to south-west (when looking from front of car).

I will say that when I did it the first time, I rocked it bach and forth in a circuilar motion.

Just remember to line up the notch in the pipe on the bottom with the top pipe when putting back together. That requires even more pressure.
Old 01-19-2004 | 11:14 AM
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So as of right now...for Lexas look is Midnight Moose still the way to go? Also, anyone done a 6000k conversion on HID's of an '04? How does it look?
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I've asked this same question . . . . So if anyone has pics of a 6000k conversion please post . . . . and mention if it was hard to do ( due to bi xenons ).
Old 01-19-2004 | 03:28 PM
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Keep this thread active until we get a response.

I know the headlights ARE more difficult to install. But I plan on having my dealer put them in along with a radar detector.

SO

Let's get this headlight topic resolved. Whats the BEST yellow for fog to emulate lexus, and has anyone converted from 4200k to 6000k?

Thanks.
Old 01-20-2004 | 11:57 AM
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Check out my super white LED 9006/HB4 fog light bulb!

http://www.acurainspired.com/gallery...d=780&uuid=112
http://www.acurainspired.com/gallery...id=112&aid=780
http://www.acurainspired.com/gallery...id=112&aid=780

http://www.acurainspired.com/gallery...id=112&aid=780

hchhon
Old 01-20-2004 | 01:24 PM
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Yes, that is great, I give you a 10 for effort and execution.

Questions I really have is how do they realy work, can you tell the differnce at night with the head lights on?

It looks like you have changed the beam pattern of your fogs as it relies mostly on the reflector to beam the light out of the fog light and creat the beam pattern.

With the directionl LED's (reflector is built into the epoxy LED case) they are most likely more like a driving light beam (pencil beam) as the high intensity white LED's are typically narrow in beam angle.

Alignment is also effected by the alignment of the LED to the socket/PCB, and if a skew, can not be comensated by the fog housing.

good job overall, I like it, LED head lights will be on cars soon, I have seen them at lighting shows, it is just a mater of time.
Old 01-20-2004 | 02:49 PM
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LED Master,
I really doing it for the look and I really don't need fog lights to illuminate the road. At night difinately you can tell the difference between the low beam and fog light when they are on. I know the alignment is critcal and I make sure my PCB and LEDs are alignmented correctly.

hchhon
Old 01-20-2004 | 06:43 PM
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Cool!
Where did you get those 9006 led's? I wonder if they come in Yellow? What is the performance like? Can you take a picutre of the beam reflected on something? Cool idea.

STILL LOOKING for the responses about the yellow Lexus look. Yellow light works SO much better in fog and rain then white. Really wanting to find a good solution.

On that note. Anyone out there performe the 6000 Kelvin upgrade to the HID's of the '04 yet?


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