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Old 11-14-2014, 12:13 PM
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3x3 AT Fluid Exchange Questions

Hello all,

I'm brand new to this forum and have searched and found some useful info regarding the automatic transmission fluid exchange (3x3) procedure. I just have a couple questions:

1. On an 07 TL-S, I have been lead to believe that the trans filter is internal to the transmission and cannot be easily changed, unlike the 04-06 models. If it's easy to change, I'd like to do it. In this thread, some people mention it, but can anybody confirm?
https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...t-pics-787078/

2. Is it necessary to actually drive the car in between drains and fills? Or can I leave the car on jackstands and just spin through the gears with the wheels in the air? Again, I couldn't find any conclusive answer to this question. This thread appears to allude to the procedure, but the pdf link is broken:
https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...-012-a-556044/

All input is appreciated. Thanks!
Old 11-14-2014, 12:29 PM
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1. I didn't change the transmission filter yet as I have one more 1x3 left to do. I may do that next oil change.

2. I'm sure you could do it on jackstands, but I personally wouldn't as I wouldn't find it very safe to do so. Changing gears could cause the car to possibly be moved off the jackstands and you can just imagine how bad that would be.
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OP, I found a link to your bulletin because I am doing a 3x3 replacement this weekend and I wanted to read the article. Here it is:

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/p0420/B080100.pdf

It's the first bulletin, so you can't miss it.

Good luck!

Edit: I'll copy and paste the info from the Service Bulletin in case the link ever dies so it can still be referenced.

*THIS IS BASICALLY ACURA TELLING YOU HOW TO DO A 3x3*

ServiceNews Article
Jan 2008
Check Out the Latest Word on A/T Flushing


Some A/T repair procedures call for flushing the trans using Acura Precision Crafted ATF-Z1 (and no
substitutes). Problem is, where do you find the info to do that? It’s not listed in the S/Ms and if you do an
ISIS search, you’ll find a few ServiceNews articles on this subject, but they’re rather dated, and none of
them say the same thing.

NOTE: The term “flushing” refers to repeatedly draining and refilling the trans with Acura Precision Crafted
ATF-Z1. Don’t confuse it with aftermarket flush systems. American Honda still strongly recommends that
you avoid using them on any Acura vehicle.

The original procedure was written for simpler A/Ts that readily upshifted when you ran the vehicle on a lift.
But A/Ts have come a long way since then, and most of the newer ones balk at shifting past 2nd gear
when on a lift, unless you work the shift lever a certain way.

In light of all this, we thought it was high time that the A/T flushing procedure got a facelift. So here’s the
latest word on flushing that works for all A/Ts:

1. Set the parking brake, and raise the vehicle on a lift.
2. Drain the trans, and refill it with Acura Precision Crafted ATF-Z1. Refer to the applicable S/M or to ISIS
for details.
3. Start the engine, shift into Drive, and release the parking brake.
4. Push down on the accelerator pedal to raise the vehicle speed to 2,500 rpm.
• If the trans shifts past 2nd gear, go to step 5.
• If the trans won’t shift past 2nd gear, keep the engine speed at 2,500 rpm and shift from Drive to
Neutral and back to Drive. Then go to step 5.
5. Make sure that the trans shifts through all the forward gears and goes into torque converter lockup.
6. Let off the accelerator pedal, and press the brake pedal to drop the vehicle speed to zero. Shift into
Reverse and then into Neutral.
7. Shift into Drive, and repeat steps 4 thru 6 four more times.
8. Set the parking brake, and repeat steps 2 thru 6 two more times.
9. Drain the trans, and reinstall the drain plug with a new sealing washer.
10. Refill the A/T with ATF-Z1.

Last edited by DuoDSG; 11-18-2014 at 03:02 PM.
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