'07-'08 TL-S Prices
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'07-'08 TL-S Prices
My girlfriend is in the market for a new car and the first car that came to my mind was a 3rd Gen TL-S. It has always been a favorite car of mines since they've come out. I live down here in GA and I've been searching High and Low for a decent condition TL-S. I've visited and test drove all the ones in the surrounding area and they are ALL in terrible condition. I don't know what people have been doing with these cars. Our only requirement is that it's below 100k and it's not silver LOL. We are not a fan of silver. So I got fed up and just went on CarMax and found us a nice NBP 07 TL-s with 69k miles on it and in the process of going to take a look at it. The only catch is that the car is 20k (before tax)! I know this is a TL forum and everyone loves it, but does that seem reasonable? I know it's not a comparison, but we can get a brand new 2015 Camry out the door for 21-22k range. That range opens up a lot of options for new/used cars, but I'm still in love with the 3rd gen TL. We are probably going to end up getting it, but just wondering what are your thoughts.
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Not sure if your GF is looking for an MT, but I found this on CL a few weeks back here in MA. Low miles and two sets of tires/rims.
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liltoua (02-17-2015)
#3
Yea that was the only other requirement, it has to be an AUTO. I tried teaching her auto in my car, but she has a 60 miles commute to school and she doesn't want to deal with it haha. Also I want to keep the car local in Georgia because I'm not sure how out of state taxes work yet and don't want to deal with traveling just yet. So far I've been really disappointed in the condition of the local TL-S down here. They look great in pictures, but in person, they are in terrible condition.
#5
I can't believe there is another should I buy this car thread...dude, you can check KBB.com or nada.com for used prices. That being said kbb.com says the fair price for that car is $17,700, top for best 07 TLs ever would be 19,300, so that 20K is too high. You can get a 4G, 2012 for only a few thousand more than that now. Carmax usually prices their cars higher because the inspect and recondition them. Remember tho, that's an 8 year old car.
#6
Everyone knows the 4G are not visually appealing to look at (subjective). She doesn't like the look of the 4G anyways. I'm just simply asking the question because I know CarMax always sells cars at premiums, but if you've read any reviews on them, their car quality are not as great as they advertise.
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#8
Everyone knows the 4G are not visually appealing to look at (subjective). She doesn't like the look of the 4G anyways. I'm just simply asking the question because I know CarMax always sells cars at premiums, but if you've read any reviews on them, their car quality are not as great as they advertise.
#9
Kbb puts a 07 TL-S auto at $17k-$20k fair market range. Suggested retail is $19k. These are dealer retail prices. The car holds its value well.
Carmax is pricey but usually because they don't negotiate and give you top dollar for your trade in, so this is where they make their money.
I got mine at Carmax too before I found out they didn't negotiate. I wasn't happy since I felt they were over charging me $1k-$2k, but they gave me almost $2k over value for my trade in so it washed out.
Carmax is pricey but usually because they don't negotiate and give you top dollar for your trade in, so this is where they make their money.
I got mine at Carmax too before I found out they didn't negotiate. I wasn't happy since I felt they were over charging me $1k-$2k, but they gave me almost $2k over value for my trade in so it washed out.
#11
That is true...and I agree the 4G is not as good looking. And Carmax does charge more for their cars. A story, a friend bought a car from them, price so high that she could finance the balance for the car after her down payment because it was above wholesale. That being said, the wholesale on that TLs is about $14K +/-. What are you looking for...a good looking possibly less reliable car or a newer more reliable car? You can most likely get a newer more reliable car with less miles than an 07 for similar or less $$$. Have you looked at the Lexus IS 09 or 10 or a BMW 328i in those years. I bought an '11 BMW 335i in December with 48K miles for only $2500 more than that TL. Just saying....
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liltoua (02-17-2015)
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Yea that's why I'm reconsidering everything. The only issue I have with BMW esp the 335i is the issues that come with it. I had a friend that owned one and it was in the shop a total of 11 times in a year for issues. Had another friend that had both turbo's replaced (under warranty though). I'm considering the TL-S because I can pretty much do all the maintenance myself. I'm mechanically inclined so I can do most things by myself and I herd they don't come with to many issues.
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#16
Hey, the TLs is a great car, but not for 20K, that's my point. And I agree, the pre 2011 335i did have issues with the turbo and the fuel pump The turbo was changed from 2 single turbos to a single twin scroll turbo. Many fewer issues and they also changed the fuel pump. The 328i didn't have those issues, no turbo and different fuel pump. That's also the reason I mentioned the Lexus IS.
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Ps apparently it's not just engine issues. My friend went through 2 transmissions among other things on his 335i before calling it quits. Seems that the car is great but the reliability is rubbish.
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#18
Still, this was BMW's test mule for today's turbo models. I'd stay away. The car is also very bare bones inside and out. It's appeal is the power plant, not much else IMO. The TL-S is much nicer inside. Anyone looking for a beemer turbo should consider other options, such as the 2 series. Just my 2 cents. Good luck.
Ps apparently it's not just engine issues. My friend went through 2 transmissions on his 335i before calling it quits.
Ps apparently it's not just engine issues. My friend went through 2 transmissions on his 335i before calling it quits.
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We actually saw that and I was really considering it, but the manual thing was to much for her haha. We would have been okay with the silver, but atlanta traffic and manual for a woman doesn't mix well. I wouldn't mind it haha.
#23
Yea we were willing to spend more on a brand new car. We looked at the accords as well. I'll let her decide, but I have a say in it as well since I drive her around most of the time LOL.
#24
The only catch is that the car is 20k (before tax)! I know this is a TL forum and everyone loves it, but does that seem reasonable? I know it's not a comparison, but we can get a brand new 2015 Camry out the door for 21-22k range. That range opens up a lot of options for new/used cars, but I'm still in love with the 3rd gen TL. We are probably going to end up getting it, but just wondering what are your thoughts.
The funny thing is, the value of the brand new Camry will drop faster than the TL-S, since the TL is already so old. New cars plummet like crazy.
#25
The prices are holding high on some of the 3Gs and the Type-S' because there is demand for them and some people are willing to pay. CarMax is on the high-end usually but they don't sell junk. I could've gotten a 4G TL for another $1500 over what I paid for mine. Why? demand for 4G is nowhere near demand for a 3G. I won't speak to alternative cars...there are just too many for you and your girl to choose from.
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#26
Dude, you're comparing a highly desirable, completely loaded, low mileage TL-S, to likely a new base model Camry. Of course there's going to be a price discrepancy.
The funny thing is, the value of the brand new Camry will drop faster than the TL-S, since the TL is already so old. New cars plummet like crazy.
The funny thing is, the value of the brand new Camry will drop faster than the TL-S, since the TL is already so old. New cars plummet like crazy.
With a brand new car, if you buy the typical consumer car Camry/Accord/etc, the moment I drive off the lot I loose 10%(drastic) of the car's value and then it just goes down hill from there.
I just want to make a decision that is financially appropriate while it still keeps us happy.
TL-S: What we want but not what we want to pay
New car: Pay more sleep better at night b/c it's brand new...will we be 100% happy....maybe?
#27
We can't make the decision for you. The TL-S is an awesome car BUT the automatics can be a little fickle and may need the pressure switches replaced after a while. But on the other hand new cars lose 60% of their value after 4 years. Whatever course you take, do what makes you both happy. Life is short.
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liltoua (02-17-2015)
#28
We can't make the decision for you. The TL-S is an awesome car BUT the automatics can be a little fickle and may need the pressure switches replaced after a while. But on the other hand new cars lose 60% of their value after 4 years. Whatever course you take, do what makes you both happy. Life is short.
What she doesn't know is that if she gets the TL-S...I'll be modding it HAHA.
#29
We can't make the decision for you. The TL-S is an awesome car BUT the automatics can be a little fickle and may need the pressure switches replaced after a while. But on the other hand new cars lose 60% of their value after 4 years. Whatever course you take, do what makes you both happy. Life is short.
I'm at 99k on my TL-S and after my engine is fully warm (20-30 minutes or so of driving), I can't even feel my transmission shift. And I've only drained and filled fluid once from 0 miles (although I wasn't the original owner)
#30
Still, this was BMW's test mule for today's turbo models. I'd stay away. The car is also very bare bones inside and out. It's appeal is the power plant, not much else IMO. The TL-S is much nicer inside. Anyone looking for a beemer turbo should consider other options, such as the 2 series. Just my 2 cents. Good luck.
Ps apparently it's not just engine issues. My friend went through 2 transmissions among other things on his 335i before calling it quits. Seems that the car is great but the reliability is rubbish.
Ps apparently it's not just engine issues. My friend went through 2 transmissions among other things on his 335i before calling it quits. Seems that the car is great but the reliability is rubbish.
#31
I'm with you. People seem to think their out of warranty, 7-8 year old glorified accords with 100k are worth gold ingots. The market, both private and retail, seem to be 2-3 grand overpriced. If not that, every car for sale is bronze, black, or silver. This is truly absurd.
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#34
The same 14 cars have been on cars.com for sale across the country for over a month.
#35
I live in the SF Bay Area in California, and the demand for the 3rd generation TLs is pretty crazy... Any low-ish mileage 3rd generation TL in very good shape will NOT last on the used car lots (or on Craigslist for the matter) for very long.
That said, I paid about $20K out the door (tax, license, etc...) for my 2008 Acura TL with about 80K on the clock. I feel that it was a little on the high side... However, my wife loves the 3rd generation look/feel, and really dislikes the styling of the TLs after the 2008 model year.
I don't know how difficult it is to find a nice 3rd gen TL with reasonable miles in GA...but I can tell you that I got to the point where I saw everything that was out there, and ended up waiting for new listings to go look at... And anytime I hesitated to pull the trigger, the car would sell before I could buy it myself! The market for the 3rd gen cars is just crazy...
I am largely happy with the purchase... That said, I recently started a thread about the fact that my car has some light oil seepage coming from the Oil Pump, which would basically force me into an early timing belt change to fix it...
Not happy about adding another 4 figure repair cost to the total cost of my car... But I guess that you have to expect some of this when you buy a used car, eh?
That said, I paid about $20K out the door (tax, license, etc...) for my 2008 Acura TL with about 80K on the clock. I feel that it was a little on the high side... However, my wife loves the 3rd generation look/feel, and really dislikes the styling of the TLs after the 2008 model year.
I don't know how difficult it is to find a nice 3rd gen TL with reasonable miles in GA...but I can tell you that I got to the point where I saw everything that was out there, and ended up waiting for new listings to go look at... And anytime I hesitated to pull the trigger, the car would sell before I could buy it myself! The market for the 3rd gen cars is just crazy...
I am largely happy with the purchase... That said, I recently started a thread about the fact that my car has some light oil seepage coming from the Oil Pump, which would basically force me into an early timing belt change to fix it...
Not happy about adding another 4 figure repair cost to the total cost of my car... But I guess that you have to expect some of this when you buy a used car, eh?
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liltoua (02-17-2015)
#36
This is the exact point why I'm having such a hard time. I understand that the TL-S is 8 years old and can still be sold for that amount amazes me, but on the other hand why do I want to pay that much for an old car.
With a brand new car, if you buy the typical consumer car Camry/Accord/etc, the moment I drive off the lot I loose 10%(drastic) of the car's value and then it just goes down hill from there.
I just want to make a decision that is financially appropriate while it still keeps us happy.
TL-S: What we want but not what we want to pay
New car: Pay more sleep better at night b/c it's brand new...will we be 100% happy....maybe?
With a brand new car, if you buy the typical consumer car Camry/Accord/etc, the moment I drive off the lot I loose 10%(drastic) of the car's value and then it just goes down hill from there.
I just want to make a decision that is financially appropriate while it still keeps us happy.
TL-S: What we want but not what we want to pay
New car: Pay more sleep better at night b/c it's brand new...will we be 100% happy....maybe?
A financially appropriate decision would be to buy a slightly used, base model car and drive it until the wheels fall off. But who the hell wants to do that?
Also, who cares how old the car is? Maintenance stuff isn't rocket science, you have AZ at your disposal for any issues, as long as the car isn't beat to shit, it won't really matter. Hey, if you'll be happy with a Camry, go for it. I find it hard to believe though, coming from a guy who drives a track prepped subaru, lol.
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liltoua (02-17-2015)
#37
Seeing as the cars aren't moving at all at the prices listed I'm going to go with nobody is buying them, the facade of it being "rare" is taken as a sign of a premium in price, problem is the sellers or dealers don't realize you need demand to match the high price.
The same 14 cars have been on cars.com for sale across the country for over a month.
The same 14 cars have been on cars.com for sale across the country for over a month.
What's the big deal if there's 14 cars that no one buys? How does it impact you, if someone asks for $20K for an item? Don't like it? Don't buy it! Think they'll drop value and want to wait for that to happen? Do so! It's pretty much how buying and selling used good works, no?
I'm selling my used underwear for $20 a piece on eBay. No one has bought it yet, but it's not stopping me from selling authentic polobunny used underwear for that price.
#38
That said, I paid about $20K out the door (tax, license, etc...) for my 2008 Acura TL with about 80K on the clock. I feel that it was a little on the high side... However, my wife loves the 3rd generation look/feel, and really dislikes the styling of the TLs after the 2008 model year.
A financially appropriate decision would be to buy a slightly used, base model car and drive it until the wheels fall off. But who the hell wants to do that?
Also, who cares how old the car is? Maintenance stuff isn't rocket science, you have AZ at your disposal for any issues, as long as the car isn't beat to shit, it won't really matter. Hey, if you'll be happy with a Camry, go for it. I find it hard to believe though, coming from a guy who drives a track prepped subaru, lol.
#39
What's the big deal if there's 14 cars that no one buys? How does it impact you, if someone asks for $20K for an item? Don't like it? Don't buy it! Think they'll drop value and want to wait for that to happen? Do so! It's pretty much how buying and selling used good works, no?
I'm selling my used underwear for $20 a piece on eBay. No one has bought it yet, but it's not stopping me from selling authentic polobunny used underwear for that price.
I'm selling my used underwear for $20 a piece on eBay. No one has bought it yet, but it's not stopping me from selling authentic polobunny used underwear for that price.
The only issue here is that the only DECENT TL-S I've seen in the SouthEast so far is from a CarMax dealer and you know the deal with them. No haggling and I just don't have the time right now to wait another 2,3,4...who knows how many months for another TL-S to pop up hoping it's in good condition.