Corey_Straker

There you go! Acura is a pretty conservative company it seems lately.

hankjost

Does anyone know if the incentives are continuing beyond March 3? I am interested in the Advance model.

cammy5

Corey, can I get the residual values for a Tech Pkg RLX and Krell Pkg RLX for 15k miles a year? Thanks!!

neuronbob

Corey or Colin, RV and MF for an Advance PAWS for 12k/year? Leaning this way.

Colin

Tech = 46%, Krell = 45%
Advance = 46%, Money = .00015

KeithL

Those residuals seems a bit low.

CFoote

You thinking 2015 or 2014? I think I'm going to wait for the 2015s and see if anything is updated or changed.

neuronbob

I'm thinking 2014. As for the low residual, if I can negotiate purchasing price for an Advance to $49k as others are seeing, and use that as a starting point, then the resulting lease will be a decent deal.

Want to act while the getting's good. I've been crunching mileage and range numbers for the way I use the car and the PAWS maybe makes more sense for me, especially at these prices. Still thinking.

getakey

Dealer quoted me 49.3 over the phone. Did not even negotiate. Probably can get better

KeithL

If they are taking $12K+ off the RLX Advance that is just plain sad.

Colin

Yes, but the rate is correspondingly low and this is for '14s over a year after their release.
Everyone know how they got "behind" the exchange rate with the last gen TSX, Fit and CR-Z. If they planned the MSRP to turn a profit around an exchange rate of 80 yen and it's currently at 100, they can give back money and still make a profit at the manufacturing level.

KeithL

That may be part of it, but I do not see Lexus or Infiniti discounting their GS or Q70 $12K. Infiniti might discount to invoice and say a couple grand more. If they had discounted GS or Q70 $12K I would be in one of those rather than my A6.

Colin

Ok then. Acura must be a total failure. Everybody leave the forum.

KeithL

Not a total failure, just unable to figure out the high end sedan market. If they would out SH-AWD I might be convinced to try one especially at these discounts. I do think they have a good formula with the TLX, very eager to check it out.

Oswald Vater

Saw an article on WSJ site that the average time to move an RLX off the lot is 135 days. Only two other cars had worse move rates. That being said, those in the market would do well to look for dealers in their vicinity with the largest inventory numbers for the best deals. I know I will if I decide to look at RLX further.

Edward'TLS

A total failure ?

For the SUV line : NO, not at all.
For the sedan line : YES.

That's why everybody should remain on the forum, and tell Acura what customers really want in terms of luxury sedans; especially those previous Acura sedan owners who have given up with Acura and moved onto other brand's luxury sedans.

If Acura does listen, rectifies it's sedan-line deficiencies, and starts building luxury sedans that customers REALLY want; then it's sedan line will rise like a "Phoenix out of the ashes", and CAN become a highly desirable luxury sedan brand with highly sought after sedan products.

KeithL

I do think the TLX will help them turn the sedan market around. Hopefully the new regime is huddling and revisiting what to do,at the high end with the RLX. The ILX should get improvements with beefier engine and hopefully some new tech. The RLX just needs some styling touch ups and true SH-AWD. It will take a few gens of the RLX to really crack the market.

Colin

Sorry, that MF is for the one pay, regular is .00025.

docboy

I saw that article too. Not good news for the RLX. I believe I saw some Subaru models that are selling within 10 days. Talk about a difference.

If I recall, didn't the ZDX have a similar time on the lot of well over 100 days as well?

The RLX is already in its 3rd gen. If the RLX doesn't do well by this gen, then there is not much hope IMHO. The RL already had 2 gens to make it right, and this is the 3rd time around. Compare the 3G TL vs the 3G RL. Big difference, even though the RLX is never meant to be a volume seller, its sales still lack behind the 5 series, LS, etc...

miner

I feel this will be the last gen of the Legend/RL/RLX. A renaming of the model will come next time around with no ties to the former. Acura will have a mid/large sedan, and that won't be the TLX.

neuronbob

The 2G RL sold VERY well compared to the RLX the first two model years. It was class-leading with its tech at the time of release in 2004. It stuck around so long, though, that sales were virtually agonal at the end. It lasted eight long model years without much change other than addition of the beak. (Note: the 1G RL stuck around for nine model years IIRC, so this behavior is not unique to the 2G RL). I don't think Acura cares that this is not a volume seller, and is not in competition with the 5-series or LS in any case. Anyhoo, different thread....

I don't think so. The RL/RLX series cars, as we've oft noted in this forum, is a test bed for new tech. In less than ten years, if the SH-SH-AWD is successful in implementation (if not sales), we will see this in every Acura, just like SH-AWD is progressing down the line now into the TL, and soon into the ILX.

I don't think the RLX will last nine years, however. I think it'll be lucky to last 4-5 model years.

I personally think that if Acura stole some designers from Audi to make the wrapper of all that new tech sexy-looking, that would help sales somewhat, or at least get the car noticed more.

Again, this is a different topic for a different thread....

docboy

This. Acura would be wise to follow Kia

KeithL

True, but Acura needs to learn from the German, this is the 3rd radically different RL/X. The Germans evolve their models Acura needs to pick a design style and stick with it. Lexus did the same things with the LS, each gen is an evolution of the last, no radical changes. The only thing the RLX has in common with the RL is the first 2 letters, there is no family resemblance.