Deals on a RLX
#121
Well we went back to the dealer and the Sales Person who we were woking with left the dealership due to getting sick. So we got a new sales person to work with and he showed as a 2016 RLX Advance that the Owner of the Dealership was driving, it had 2800 miles on the odometer. He said we would give us a better deal then what new RLXs sell for since this one had a few miles. True Car show the average price is 53,763, So how much should we offer for the car ? My parents liked the interior color and exterior color too, it had a Graphite Luster Metallic and Graystone Interior. We also found this car on Auto Trader: Cars for Sale: New 2016 Acura RLX in w/ Advance Package, Pembroke Pines FL: 33027 Details - Sedan - Autotrader
#122
Torch & Pitchfork Posse
Your posts are a bit confusing. You speak of a used Graphite/ Graystone 2016 RLX PAWS Advance - but the link is for a NEW 2016 RLX PAWS Advance black / black?
It depends on your market area, but assuming your market is similar to mine in FL, the TRUECAR pricing is approx $1K over NEW negotiated deals and $2K over USED negotiated pricing. Much of this can wash out with included options / accessories from the dealer. But do not uses sales tax, title and license fees in the comparisons.
I am generalizing, but a NEW PAWS Advance should be $10K off sticker +TTL. A USED 2016 low mileage of the same $49-50K CPO or $46.5-$48K (no Acura CPO - non Acura Dealer).
It depends on your market area, but assuming your market is similar to mine in FL, the TRUECAR pricing is approx $1K over NEW negotiated deals and $2K over USED negotiated pricing. Much of this can wash out with included options / accessories from the dealer. But do not uses sales tax, title and license fees in the comparisons.
I am generalizing, but a NEW PAWS Advance should be $10K off sticker +TTL. A USED 2016 low mileage of the same $49-50K CPO or $46.5-$48K (no Acura CPO - non Acura Dealer).
#123
Your posts are a bit confusing. You speak of a used Graphite/ Graystone 2016 RLX PAWS Advance - but the link is for a NEW 2016 RLX PAWS Advance black / black?
It depends on your market area, but assuming your market is similar to mine in FL, the TRUECAR pricing is approx $1K over NEW negotiated deals and $2K over USED negotiated pricing. Much of this can wash out with included options / accessories from the dealer. But do not uses sales tax, title and license fees in the comparisons.
I am generalizing, but a NEW PAWS Advance should be $10K off sticker +TTL. A USED 2016 low mileage of the same $49-50K CPO or $46.5-$48K (no Acura CPO - non Acura Dealer).
It depends on your market area, but assuming your market is similar to mine in FL, the TRUECAR pricing is approx $1K over NEW negotiated deals and $2K over USED negotiated pricing. Much of this can wash out with included options / accessories from the dealer. But do not uses sales tax, title and license fees in the comparisons.
I am generalizing, but a NEW PAWS Advance should be $10K off sticker +TTL. A USED 2016 low mileage of the same $49-50K CPO or $46.5-$48K (no Acura CPO - non Acura Dealer).
They say the car is new but when we went to the dealership they told us the Owner is driving the car and racked up those miles. The car has not been titled yet according to the sales person. By the time we go back to the dealership it would be safe to assume the car will have closer to 3,000 miles on it. Also the tax rate where the dealer is 8.1% on cars.
#124
Burning Brakes
Well the car linked to was to show what a new one was selling for. This the car that we are looking at : Cars for Sale: New 2016 Acura RLX in w/ Advance Package, Peoria AZ: 85382 Details - Sedan - Autotrader
They say the car is new but when we went to the dealership they told us the Owner is driving the car and racked up those miles. The car has not been titled yet according to the sales person. By the time we go back to the dealership it would be safe to assume the car will have closer to 3,000 miles on it. Also the tax rate where the dealer is 8.1% on cars.
They say the car is new but when we went to the dealership they told us the Owner is driving the car and racked up those miles. The car has not been titled yet according to the sales person. By the time we go back to the dealership it would be safe to assume the car will have closer to 3,000 miles on it. Also the tax rate where the dealer is 8.1% on cars.
#125
O ok well the dealer selling the graphite color RLX its a local dealer who's selling the car, we have 3 acura dealers in our area, this one is furthest of the 3 dealers in our area. My parents bought their TL from the same dealer who's selling the RLX.
#126
Senior Moderator
I'd start at $48-49k and work up from there for the "dealership owner used" car.
#128
2020 Acura RLX Advance
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#129
Opinions on RLX values from persons perhaps more in your youthful age demographic:
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#130
Senior Moderator
That's a pretty common combo. I don't foresee difficulty finding that combo. Good luck!
#131
Torch & Pitchfork Posse
Sport Hybrid - Advance
A few I have not seen listed before:
Cars for Sale: Used 2016 Acura RLX in Sport Hybrid w/ Advance Pkg, Los Gatos CA: 95032 Details - Sedan - Autotrader
Cars for Sale: Used 2016 Acura RLX in Sport Hybrid w/ Advance Pkg, Chicago IL: 60642 Details - Sedan - Autotrader
Cars for Sale: Certified 2016 Acura RLX in Sport Hybrid w/ Advance Pkg, Hoffman Estates IL: 60169 Details - Sedan - Autotrader
Cars for Sale: Used 2016 Acura RLX in Sport Hybrid w/ Advance Pkg, Los Gatos CA: 95032 Details - Sedan - Autotrader
Cars for Sale: Used 2016 Acura RLX in Sport Hybrid w/ Advance Pkg, Chicago IL: 60642 Details - Sedan - Autotrader
Cars for Sale: Certified 2016 Acura RLX in Sport Hybrid w/ Advance Pkg, Hoffman Estates IL: 60169 Details - Sedan - Autotrader
#132
I wanted to give a update, so we kept getting cals from the sales person and we have talked to him and we told him we were busy, so we kept waiting and Today we got a call from the sales person he said Acura is giving 10,000 off the RLX & we are going call him back to find out what the deal is and then if its all correct it qualifies on the Dealer Driven car then we are going to go the dealer some time this week.
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#134
Cruisin'
That discount sounds accurate, the dealer that had the CPO 2014 that I missed by 1-2 days this past week offered me 10k off a 2016 Advance with a few miles that had been driven by their GM and never registered.
#135
Originally Posted by Yehaman
That discount sounds accurate, the dealer that had the CPO 2014 that I missed by 1-2 days this past week offered me 10k off a 2016 Advance with a few miles that had been driven by their GM and never registered.
#136
2020 Acura RLX Advance
My servicing Acura dealer (Pohanka in Virginia) who is a top selling Acura franchise currently has a brand new charcoal grey 2016 TLX V6 Tech sitting in the showroom "starting" with $10k off the sticker. A few weeks ago they had a brand new white 2015 TLX in the showroom also at $10k off the sticker. So if Acura can do $10k off $41k retail TLX's they should be able to do at least $10k off a $60k car. Between an uncertain and jittery economy, and a depressed luxury car market, your parent's should be in the driver's seat. Luxury car sales are softening and every manufacturer from Mercedes on down is wheeling and dealing to move every unit they can.
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#137
So we called the dealer and he said 5,000 off if its a new car but 10,000 if we lease the car. But since the car we are looking at is a manager driven car that he could do better then 5,000.
#139
Talked to a dealer yesterday and was told that there is no incentive from Acura on the RLX right now. They did offer $10,000 off MSRP on a Hybrid Advance.
I'm going to wait until the prices go into the low $50s since these cars are not selling. The dealer I spoke with has had the same RLXs for over 10 months now.
Plus, my '06 RL runs great and only has 117,000 miles on it. I have to have the bushings/links replaced on the front, but other than brakes, timing belt and water pump, the car hasn't had anything other than fluid changes. I'm worried my next Acura can't be as good as this one, mechanically.
I'm going to wait until the prices go into the low $50s since these cars are not selling. The dealer I spoke with has had the same RLXs for over 10 months now.
Plus, my '06 RL runs great and only has 117,000 miles on it. I have to have the bushings/links replaced on the front, but other than brakes, timing belt and water pump, the car hasn't had anything other than fluid changes. I'm worried my next Acura can't be as good as this one, mechanically.
#140
I think that's a fair concern to have - especially on the earlier builds. Not to mention, at the risk of sounding 'old', there are a lot of toys on cars these days which although they are nice to have - they are also frustrating when they don't work as expected.
#141
Burning Brakes
Talked to a dealer yesterday and was told that there is no incentive from Acura on the RLX right now. They did offer $10,000 off MSRP on a Hybrid Advance.
I'm going to wait until the prices go into the low $50s since these cars are not selling. The dealer I spoke with has had the same RLXs for over 10 months now.
Plus, my '06 RL runs great and only has 117,000 miles on it. I have to have the bushings/links replaced on the front, but other than brakes, timing belt and water pump, the car hasn't had anything other than fluid changes. I'm worried my next Acura can't be as good as this one, mechanically.
I'm going to wait until the prices go into the low $50s since these cars are not selling. The dealer I spoke with has had the same RLXs for over 10 months now.
Plus, my '06 RL runs great and only has 117,000 miles on it. I have to have the bushings/links replaced on the front, but other than brakes, timing belt and water pump, the car hasn't had anything other than fluid changes. I'm worried my next Acura can't be as good as this one, mechanically.
#142
Torch & Pitchfork Posse
$10K off a new SH? You sure of that? Was it dealer driven? I think $10K off a PAWS model is realistic, but $3-5K off a SH is the best I have seen. Many dealers still want sticker for them, just due to lack of supply.
And as a former RL owner who pained to give up my RL, unless you are specifically looking to acquire an RLX as opposed to have a new car itch - I would keep the RL. Either wait for the new model launch (predicted for 2018) and get a deal on a CPO RLX, or you may just want the updated / revised RLX. The RL, especially if you put work into it is a tank. IMHO it is the pinnacle of a premium, normally aspirated Honda. Turbos, hybrids, start / stop technology is all impressive - but perhaps not for a purist. There are days I actually miss that smooth drivetrain and rRolex like engine without power shifting or stopping - no matter how well integrated. The RL most solid car I have ever owned (RLX though familiar is just a different animal - either is PAWS or SH configurations).
I do not regret stepping into the RLX SH. But I sure miss my RL.
And as a former RL owner who pained to give up my RL, unless you are specifically looking to acquire an RLX as opposed to have a new car itch - I would keep the RL. Either wait for the new model launch (predicted for 2018) and get a deal on a CPO RLX, or you may just want the updated / revised RLX. The RL, especially if you put work into it is a tank. IMHO it is the pinnacle of a premium, normally aspirated Honda. Turbos, hybrids, start / stop technology is all impressive - but perhaps not for a purist. There are days I actually miss that smooth drivetrain and rRolex like engine without power shifting or stopping - no matter how well integrated. The RL most solid car I have ever owned (RLX though familiar is just a different animal - either is PAWS or SH configurations).
I do not regret stepping into the RLX SH. But I sure miss my RL.
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#143
Senior Moderator
A used 2G RL is one of the many possibilities I'm looking at for replacing my RLX at lease end, which is in 11 months. Time flies when you're having fun, and my test drives begin in earnest in the spring.
#144
Three Wheelin'
neuronbob, I suspect that when you are presented with the buyout price for your RLX Sport Hybrid when your lease expires, you will at least consider continuing to drive your existing car. If you can effectively purchased a well cared for, reliable three year old rocket car that you know is a lot of fun to drive for something like $25K, you may at least be tempted to hang onto your existing ride for a while longer. At that point, the depreciation on your Sport Hybrid will be a couple of thousand a year max, you'll likely save $500 per year or more on gas over most potential replacements, and you'll always feel at home in your RLX. As your kids get closer to college, saving money is never a bad thing.
That is, of course, unless you get an uncontrollable itch next year to drive the latest rocket car that hits the market.
Just my two cents.
That is, of course, unless you get an uncontrollable itch next year to drive the latest rocket car that hits the market.
Just my two cents.
#145
Senior Moderator
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That is another option I am considering. My understanding is that Acura insists on lessees paying the scheduled residual if buying out the lease. The car is already worth far, far less than the 49% residual in my contract so a lease buyout would be a horrible financial decision. The best option is to turn it in, then make a deal with the dealer before it goes to auction, which is where it'd probably end up. At say, $25k for my well-maintained, low-mileage (I'm at 18k miles now, will probably put on less than another 10k in the next 11 months), I would probably just buy it and keep it for a while longer while awaiting whatever fate is in store for the RLX. I do like this car.
That is another option I am considering. My understanding is that Acura insists on lessees paying the scheduled residual if buying out the lease. The car is already worth far, far less than the 49% residual in my contract so a lease buyout would be a horrible financial decision. The best option is to turn it in, then make a deal with the dealer before it goes to auction, which is where it'd probably end up. At say, $25k for my well-maintained, low-mileage (I'm at 18k miles now, will probably put on less than another 10k in the next 11 months), I would probably just buy it and keep it for a while longer while awaiting whatever fate is in store for the RLX. I do like this car.
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#146
So I want to give another update, so we made a appointment with the sales person for this Wednesday, so I wonder what we should offer for the car since its a manager driven car and it has over 3,000 miles by now & also it seems 2017 Acura RLXs are coming to dealer lots. Been looking on auto trader and it seems they are starting to come.
#147
Three Wheelin'
My usual approach when getting close to a deal on a car is to still prepare myself to walk away if I don't get a certain number, then offer just a bit below that and negotiate from there. In the case of the RLX Sport Hybrid, it would seem as if you hold all the cards in negotiations because the car has been around for quite a while, BUT the very limited number of these cars available does add a bit of risk in getting too aggressive with negotiations. Sit down with your parents and determine how upset they would be if they lost the car and had to wait another few months or longer to get a deal on another on that may or not be their favorite color combination etc. Only they can answer that question and your negotiations will depend on that. If they are sick and tired of the waiting and really want the car now, any deal better than $5000 or $6000 off MSRP might be where you should aim. If they are not in a panic to get the car soon, then I think a goal of $10000 off MSRP would be a good goal and prepare to walk away from anything less.
Remember, even if the sales person acts as if he's done negotiating and won't budge, he doesn't get paid unless the deal is done - he needs to sell the car more than you need to buy it, so getting up and walking out might nudge the dealership to cave a bit more. Just be sure you are ok if they call your bluff and sell the car to someone else.
Only you and your parents can come up with your "line in the sand" price because only you and your parents can assess the want vs need components of the deal.
This is just my two cents, good luck with your negotiations.
Remember, even if the sales person acts as if he's done negotiating and won't budge, he doesn't get paid unless the deal is done - he needs to sell the car more than you need to buy it, so getting up and walking out might nudge the dealership to cave a bit more. Just be sure you are ok if they call your bluff and sell the car to someone else.
Only you and your parents can come up with your "line in the sand" price because only you and your parents can assess the want vs need components of the deal.
This is just my two cents, good luck with your negotiations.
#148
Burning Brakes
^^
I believe he is looking to purchase an RLX P-AWS.......
I believe he is looking to purchase an RLX P-AWS.......
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#150
Originally Posted by hondamore
My usual approach when getting close to a deal on a car is to still prepare myself to walk away if I don't get a certain number, then offer just a bit below that and negotiate from there. In the case of the RLX Sport Hybrid, it would seem as if you hold all the cards in negotiations because the car has been around for quite a while, BUT the very limited number of these cars available does add a bit of risk in getting too aggressive with negotiations. Sit down with your parents and determine how upset they would be if they lost the car and had to wait another few months or longer to get a deal on another on that may or not be their favorite color combination etc. Only they can answer that question and your negotiations will depend on that. If they are sick and tired of the waiting and really want the car now, any deal better than $5000 or $6000 off MSRP might be where you should aim. If they are not in a panic to get the car soon, then I think a goal of $10000 off MSRP would be a good goal and prepare to walk away from anything less.
Remember, even if the sales person acts as if he's done negotiating and won't budge, he doesn't get paid unless the deal is done - he needs to sell the car more than you need to buy it, so getting up and walking out might nudge the dealership to cave a bit more. Just be sure you are ok if they call your bluff and sell the car to someone else.
Only you and your parents can come up with your "line in the sand" price because only you and your parents can assess the want vs need components of the deal.
This is just my two cents, good luck with your negotiations.
Remember, even if the sales person acts as if he's done negotiating and won't budge, he doesn't get paid unless the deal is done - he needs to sell the car more than you need to buy it, so getting up and walking out might nudge the dealership to cave a bit more. Just be sure you are ok if they call your bluff and sell the car to someone else.
Only you and your parents can come up with your "line in the sand" price because only you and your parents can assess the want vs need components of the deal.
This is just my two cents, good luck with your negotiations.
#151
I want to give a update we went First to the dealer we always go to service the cars and we talked to the sales people there & got to meet the Sales Manager he told us he wanted our business since we have been servicing our cars at the dealer since they opened and have bought a car from them in the past. So we went to the other dealer who is further away to negotiate the Manager driven car but it was in pending sale. They showed us a loner car but it had 16,000 miles on it and it was dirty, so we passed on that one. So we started talking numbers on a Brand New RLX with the Advance Package and he said the best he could do was 55,000 first thats it, well we told him we can't do that since we wanted to offer 50,000 out the door. So he went back in and the Sales Manager came out and talked to us and showed us the Invoice Paper and said he could go 53,000 but we said no and walked away to our car and the General Manager came running telling us he could do $49,999 + Tax Tile Registration. So we are thinking of going back to dealer #1 and say this what they offered what can you do. Do you think 49,999 is a good deal for a RLX with Advance Package with Zero miles is a good deal or try to get them down a bit more ?
#152
It's like someone asking you if you think their spouse is good looking - you may not think so, but they still climb into bed with them every night.
I guess where I'm going with this is it really doesn't matter if others on the forum think $49,999 is a good deal. At the end of the day, you are most likely going to be splitting nickels between offers - the discounts being offered are all well below MSRP. Your parents need to be satisfied they are getting value for their money. Period.
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#153
You have presented a multitude of possible purchase scenarios and ultimately the decision rests with your parents. If you give 10 people $100 and ask them to report back what they bought - they will all bring different things back.
It's like someone asking you if you think their spouse is good looking - you may not think so, but they still climb into bed with them every night.
I guess where I'm going with this is it really doesn't matter if others on the forum think $49,999 is a good deal. At the end of the day, you are most likely going to be splitting nickels between offers - the discounts being offered are all well below MSRP. Your parents need to be satisfied they are getting value for their money. Period.
It's like someone asking you if you think their spouse is good looking - you may not think so, but they still climb into bed with them every night.
I guess where I'm going with this is it really doesn't matter if others on the forum think $49,999 is a good deal. At the end of the day, you are most likely going to be splitting nickels between offers - the discounts being offered are all well below MSRP. Your parents need to be satisfied they are getting value for their money. Period.
#154
We'll I would like to thank you all, after some talking my parents decide to stick to the 49,999 offer and even their first dealer said they would match the deal, so now it comes down to finding the right color car. We found one but the issue its in our dealers district, its all the way out in Atlanta its at a Acura dealer and its brand new, we are planning on calling dealer #1 to see if they can get it via a dealer trade. I don't know what are chances are for that but are going to try or else tell dealer #1 we can go with them since they can't get the color we want and move on dealer #2 since they said they could find one. We are trying to see if dealer #1 can do it since its our local dealer and we go there for all of our servicing and my parents bought their mdx from them.
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Congratulations. I hope it's enough of what you want to be worth the trouble you went through! :-)
#157
Originally Posted by George Knighton
Congratulations. I hope it's enough of what you want to be worth the trouble you went through! :-)
#158
Burning Brakes
Congratulations! I think you parents will be very pleased.
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Excellent service, and very nice people!
They also help me with getting credit back, if i sell the vehicle before the extended warranty is over
#159
Racer
I want to give a update we went First to the dealer we always go to service the cars and we talked to the sales people there & got to meet the Sales Manager he told us he wanted our business since we have been servicing our cars at the dealer since they opened and have bought a car from them in the past. So we went to the other dealer who is further away to negotiate the Manager driven car but it was in pending sale. They showed us a loner car but it had 16,000 miles on it and it was dirty, so we passed on that one. So we started talking numbers on a Brand New RLX with the Advance Package and he said the best he could do was 55,000 first thats it, well we told him we can't do that since we wanted to offer 50,000 out the door. So he went back in and the Sales Manager came out and talked to us and showed us the Invoice Paper and said he could go 53,000 but we said no and walked away to our car and the General Manager came running telling us he could do $49,999 + Tax Tile Registration. So we are thinking of going back to dealer #1 and say this what they offered what can you do. Do you think 49,999 is a good deal for a RLX with Advance Package with Zero miles is a good deal or try to get them down a bit more ?
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