2017 RLX P-AWS/Tech
09-19-2017, 08:22 AM
#1
Racer
Thread Starter
2017 RLX P-AWS/Tech
So I am thinking about buying this RLX that has an MSRP of $55,400. The dealership is willing to sell it to me for $42,000 since RLX's don't sell well as well as the all new 2018's coming out soon I presume. So am I getting a good deal or should I ask for more off?
Thanks in advance for all replies.
Thanks in advance for all replies.
09-19-2017, 09:04 AM
#2
Senior Moderator
You are getting an excellent deal on a new RLX PAWS Tech. Go git it! You may even be able to talk them down further given that RLXs are just eating into dealers' floor plans at this point, but $42k is pretty good. The only thing better would be a PAWS Advance for that price.
09-19-2017, 09:08 AM
#3
Racer
Thread Starter
^^^I am going to buy this car for sure. Just didn't know if I could haggle for more dollars off. The PAWS with advance are like unicorns here. Its either the PAWS Tech or sports hybrid in my area. Thanks for the vote of confidence!
09-19-2017, 12:27 PM
#6
Thats a great deal. I would try to haggle another $500 to $1000 off. RLX at that price is a bargain and great buy. My wife loves hers and I enjoy driving it when I get the opportunity.
09-19-2017, 12:33 PM
#7
Racer
Thread Starter
Isnt it funny that this car doesn't sell well, yet everyone I know personally or online seem to love theirs! I am going to see if I can get some freebies thrown in as well like the all weather floor mats, trunk tray and cargo net.
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09-19-2017, 01:04 PM
#8
The reviews of the P-AWS RLX have actually for the most part not been favourable. The biggest gripe was the poor suspension which has been rectified as far as I'm aware since the initial launch - so in fairness to you, the 2017 I'm sure is just fine (I haven't driven a 2017 P-AWS).
I owned a 2014 P-AWS Advance and although it was a wonderfully equipped vehicle, it did not drive well on rough surfaces at all. It was horrible actually and the 19's didn't help it. For a variety of reasons, I upgraded to a Sport Hybrid Advance and it's an amazing vehicle. I liked the P-AWS but I love the SH. In hindsight, I wish I had test driven the SH initially - as it would have saved me some money vs. having to dispose of the P-AWS to acquire the SH. I simply didn't even know it existed until I joined this forum and started reading about it.
I appreciate the SH is more than you're looking to spend, and perhaps you have driven the SH and the P-AWS is all you need. I would just caution you to try both before you buy either. At least this way you won't have regrets down the road as $42K is still a lot of money any way you slice it.
Regardless, don't expect to get high-fives from your buddies at the country club with either RLX. It's simply a car that most don't even notice on the road. I personally like the styling and the fact that the car is a sleeper - but those who want the brand recognition of a BMW, Merc or Lexus will want something else... That said, I would still love the RLX to wow me and make me fall in love every time I look at it. That's not how I would describe my current SH or the 2018 for that matter. But the SH does wow me every time I put it in Sport mode and play around with the paddles. And every person I've let drive my car is completely blown away with it too.
Good luck with your purchase!
I owned a 2014 P-AWS Advance and although it was a wonderfully equipped vehicle, it did not drive well on rough surfaces at all. It was horrible actually and the 19's didn't help it. For a variety of reasons, I upgraded to a Sport Hybrid Advance and it's an amazing vehicle. I liked the P-AWS but I love the SH. In hindsight, I wish I had test driven the SH initially - as it would have saved me some money vs. having to dispose of the P-AWS to acquire the SH. I simply didn't even know it existed until I joined this forum and started reading about it.
I appreciate the SH is more than you're looking to spend, and perhaps you have driven the SH and the P-AWS is all you need. I would just caution you to try both before you buy either. At least this way you won't have regrets down the road as $42K is still a lot of money any way you slice it.
Regardless, don't expect to get high-fives from your buddies at the country club with either RLX. It's simply a car that most don't even notice on the road. I personally like the styling and the fact that the car is a sleeper - but those who want the brand recognition of a BMW, Merc or Lexus will want something else... That said, I would still love the RLX to wow me and make me fall in love every time I look at it. That's not how I would describe my current SH or the 2018 for that matter. But the SH does wow me every time I put it in Sport mode and play around with the paddles. And every person I've let drive my car is completely blown away with it too.
Good luck with your purchase!
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09-19-2017, 02:55 PM
#9
Burning Brakes
Regardless, don't expect to get high-fives from your buddies at the country club with either RLX. It's simply a car that most don't even notice on the road. I personally like the styling and the fact that the car is a sleeper - but those who want the brand recognition of a BMW, Merc or Lexus will want something else... That said, I would still love the RLX to wow me and make me fall in love every time I look at it. That's not how I would describe my current SH or the 2018 for that matter. But the SH does wow me every time I put it in Sport mode and play around with the paddles. And every person I've let drive my car is completely blown away with it too.
Good luck with your purchase!
Good luck with your purchase!
09-19-2017, 04:09 PM
#10
Racer
Thread Starter
The reviews of the P-AWS RLX have actually for the most part not been favourable. The biggest gripe was the poor suspension which has been rectified as far as I'm aware since the initial launch - so in fairness to you, the 2017 I'm sure is just fine (I haven't driven a 2017 P-AWS).
I owned a 2014 P-AWS Advance and although it was a wonderfully equipped vehicle, it did not drive well on rough surfaces at all. It was horrible actually and the 19's didn't help it. For a variety of reasons, I upgraded to a Sport Hybrid Advance and it's an amazing vehicle. I liked the P-AWS but I love the SH. In hindsight, I wish I had test driven the SH initially - as it would have saved me some money vs. having to dispose of the P-AWS to acquire the SH. I simply didn't even know it existed until I joined this forum and started reading about it.
I appreciate the SH is more than you're looking to spend, and perhaps you have driven the SH and the P-AWS is all you need. I would just caution you to try both before you buy either. At least this way you won't have regrets down the road as $42K is still a lot of money any way you slice it.
Regardless, don't expect to get high-fives from your buddies at the country club with either RLX. It's simply a car that most don't even notice on the road. I personally like the styling and the fact that the car is a sleeper - but those who want the brand recognition of a BMW, Merc or Lexus will want something else... That said, I would still love the RLX to wow me and make me fall in love every time I look at it. That's not how I would describe my current SH or the 2018 for that matter. But the SH does wow me every time I put it in Sport mode and play around with the paddles. And every person I've let drive my car is completely blown away with it too.
Good luck with your purchase!
I owned a 2014 P-AWS Advance and although it was a wonderfully equipped vehicle, it did not drive well on rough surfaces at all. It was horrible actually and the 19's didn't help it. For a variety of reasons, I upgraded to a Sport Hybrid Advance and it's an amazing vehicle. I liked the P-AWS but I love the SH. In hindsight, I wish I had test driven the SH initially - as it would have saved me some money vs. having to dispose of the P-AWS to acquire the SH. I simply didn't even know it existed until I joined this forum and started reading about it.
I appreciate the SH is more than you're looking to spend, and perhaps you have driven the SH and the P-AWS is all you need. I would just caution you to try both before you buy either. At least this way you won't have regrets down the road as $42K is still a lot of money any way you slice it.
Regardless, don't expect to get high-fives from your buddies at the country club with either RLX. It's simply a car that most don't even notice on the road. I personally like the styling and the fact that the car is a sleeper - but those who want the brand recognition of a BMW, Merc or Lexus will want something else... That said, I would still love the RLX to wow me and make me fall in love every time I look at it. That's not how I would describe my current SH or the 2018 for that matter. But the SH does wow me every time I put it in Sport mode and play around with the paddles. And every person I've let drive my car is completely blown away with it too.
Good luck with your purchase!
09-19-2017, 05:58 PM
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09-19-2017, 06:30 PM
#13
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Just a suggestion here - why not scope for a cpo SHAWD Advance from 2016 or 2017? That would likely put you at or below 50k with extra warranty coverage and (imo) much more fun ride. I check cargurus every so often for current prices and they are out there.
Good luck on the acquisition.
Good luck on the acquisition.
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09-19-2017, 07:45 PM
#14
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If you drive a Sport Hybrid RLX, you will find a way to buy one....so I wouldn't do it. 
Even so, the PAWS Tech at $42k is a great deal. You have a bigger trunk and much larger back seat than the TLX A-Spec I recently traded for; my lease for that car was based on $42.9k (MSRP $45.7k). You have feature parity with the 2014 RLX Advance in the 2017 Tech. Essentially, you're only missing the 360 degree cameras and a few other items you can likely live without.
Even so, the PAWS Tech at $42k is a great deal. You have a bigger trunk and much larger back seat than the TLX A-Spec I recently traded for; my lease for that car was based on $42.9k (MSRP $45.7k). You have feature parity with the 2014 RLX Advance in the 2017 Tech. Essentially, you're only missing the 360 degree cameras and a few other items you can likely live without.
09-20-2017, 08:25 AM
#15
You can buy a new 2017 SH for $50k, CPO 2016 SH are going from $40-$50k. I can't wait to unload my current PAWS but it is a 2014. I would not waste your money on a PAWS model regardless what deal the dealer is going to give you.
09-20-2017, 09:43 AM
#16
Racer
Thread Starter
Hey, thanks for all the input guys. One of the things I look at before buying a car is also ease of maintenance. The one attractive part about PAWS is that there is no transfer case and differential to worry about. I plan to keep this car for the long term so only having to do oil changes every 10,000 miles with good synthetic oil and only having to worry about the transmission fluid is very attractive to me as I perform my own maintenance.
With that said I am going to go test drive a RLX sports hybrid. Geez god help me lol!
Again thanks for all the input guys!
With that said I am going to go test drive a RLX sports hybrid. Geez god help me lol!
Again thanks for all the input guys!
09-20-2017, 10:04 AM
#17
Three Wheelin'
Kingofire, when you test drive the Sport Hybrid, don't forget that the car normally starts in 2nd gear. At least once if you are at a red light, you should try switching to sport mode, use the paddles to manually select first gear, press the brake hold button so you can take your foot off the brake and hold it just off the accelerator and when the light turns green, press accelerator, be ready to upshift with the paddles and HAVE FUN. Warning, don't exceed the speed limit and a special warning that this activity often leads to buying the Sport Hybrid.
I second AP8ESQ's suggestion of looking into CPO Sport Hybrids as an option if you can find one in your price range.
Good luck, have fun.
I second AP8ESQ's suggestion of looking into CPO Sport Hybrids as an option if you can find one in your price range.
Good luck, have fun.
09-20-2017, 10:21 AM
#18
Racer
Thread Starter
Kingofire, when you test drive the Sport Hybrid, don't forget that the car normally starts in 2nd gear. At least once if you are at a red light, you should try switching to sport mode, use the paddles to manually select first gear, press the brake hold button so you can take your foot off the brake and hold it just off the accelerator and when the light turns green, press accelerator, be ready to upshift with the paddles and HAVE FUN. Warning, don't exceed the speed limit and a special warning that this activity often leads to buying the Sport Hybrid.
I second AP8ESQ's suggestion of looking into CPO Sport Hybrids as an option if you can find one in your price range.
Good luck, have fun.
I second AP8ESQ's suggestion of looking into CPO Sport Hybrids as an option if you can find one in your price range.
Good luck, have fun.
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09-20-2017, 11:10 AM
#19
To buy a Sport Hybrid you might have to open your radius as not too many of them to buy since they are limited. Also there is no transfer case on the SH so maintenance wise it is pretty much the same as a PAWS.
09-20-2017, 11:55 AM
#20
Racer
Thread Starter
Yes I am finding this out the hard way. I did a 150 mile radius search and there were about 4 available and all but one are Black on ebony which I don't want for sure.
09-20-2017, 01:16 PM
#21
Three Wheelin'
The Sport Hybrids are rare indeed and that can cause massive variation in sales prices - be sure to shop around and be sure to stay in your financial comfort zone. They need to sell the car more than you need to buy it, so hang tough on pricing and be prepared to walk away if you don't get the deal that is right for YOU.
09-20-2017, 01:35 PM
#22
Drifting
If you're willing to buy a one-way flight to KC, there are two Advance Hybrids for sale there (two different dealers) for 43K and 46K. One is Graphite, one is white. One has 6K miles, the other has 17K.
Good luck with the search.
Good luck with the search.
09-20-2017, 01:38 PM
#23
Burning Brakes
^^That would make for one hell of a getting acquainted trip! Been there, done that. Although not in my RLX. Flew to Houston from Raleigh to buy a car years ago. It was a fun drive home! Good luck king.
09-20-2017, 03:40 PM
#24
Lots of good advice on this thread.. this forum has a great membership.
IMO, I would strongly advise against ANY new PAWS vehicle. (Well, perhaps if the dealer dropped that car yet another $10-15k)
There are too many cars in that price range that are now far, far superior. Many of which have been substantially upgraded with model changes just in the last year or two. (Ahem.. accord???) The RLX was launched in early 2013, and that is a long time ago even in car years.
If considering a used PAWS 2016 or newer, you are pretty much in the 'drivers seat' regarding price, despite whatever wishful tale the dealer is spinning. Avoid any previous years.
The SH however, could be a great deal if you can find a used CPO 2016 or 17. Avoid prior years. If considering new, that drive line tech has to be worth a lot to you.
You will gain some decent drive train tech, but lose out on infotainment tech and trunk space.
IMO, I would strongly advise against ANY new PAWS vehicle. (Well, perhaps if the dealer dropped that car yet another $10-15k)
There are too many cars in that price range that are now far, far superior. Many of which have been substantially upgraded with model changes just in the last year or two. (Ahem.. accord???) The RLX was launched in early 2013, and that is a long time ago even in car years.
If considering a used PAWS 2016 or newer, you are pretty much in the 'drivers seat' regarding price, despite whatever wishful tale the dealer is spinning. Avoid any previous years.
The SH however, could be a great deal if you can find a used CPO 2016 or 17. Avoid prior years. If considering new, that drive line tech has to be worth a lot to you.
You will gain some decent drive train tech, but lose out on infotainment tech and trunk space.
09-21-2017, 08:12 AM
#25
Three Wheelin'
^ Excellent advice. Trust us on this when it comes to the PAWS models. There's plenty of use-cases and examples right here on this forum why you should stay away from any PAWS model. It's simply not a wise investment considering the far superior options out there now for the same money. Even Acura's own lineup (ILX/TLX) offer far better quality and experience when it comes to the RLX, and cost far less.
As Ken said, if you insist on getting a PAWS model, then you are absolutely in the driver seat and should be able to demand far less based on the vehicles track record and history for being sub-par, and not just based on critique, but based on measurable product and design quality.
The SH is an entirely different beast all together, and is much closer to representing what Acura originally intended the RLX to be.
As Ken said, if you insist on getting a PAWS model, then you are absolutely in the driver seat and should be able to demand far less based on the vehicles track record and history for being sub-par, and not just based on critique, but based on measurable product and design quality.
The SH is an entirely different beast all together, and is much closer to representing what Acura originally intended the RLX to be.
09-21-2017, 09:55 AM
#28
I'm sorry if I stirred the pot and added a layer of confusion by suggesting you test drive an SH before you decide. I can only advise based on my past experiences of having owned a P-AWS and quickly realizing that I needed an SH. They are completely different animals as others have said.
Although my work pays for my fuel costs so it's not as important to me personally, I will say that the SH is far better on gas than my P-AWS was (which is good in it's own right) so you can expect fuel savings. A full tank of gas seems to last me forever (unless I drive aggressively in Sport mode of course). The trunk is also significantly smaller in the SH if that is important to you. Good luck and keep us posted!
09-21-2017, 12:01 PM
#30
Senior Moderator
*Bob comes surprisingly close to booking flight, closer than he thought he would, before remembering he is in a lease now*
09-21-2017, 06:46 PM
#31
Advanced
I will second the launch in actual first gear as well... you can really get off the line in a hurry when some dipstick in a 335i or A4 or E350 or Camry or (insert car here) next to you thinks he has a faster car and gives you "the look". Not that I would ever do such a thing...
09-22-2017, 08:28 AM
#32
Racer
Thread Starter
Well maybe this is a sign. Called the dealer yesterday to test drive the PAWS RLX and it was sold. Back to square one and now time to find the right SH-AWD car. This should be fun!
09-22-2017, 04:28 PM
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Your initial post poked me into inquiring with my dealer about a new PAWs Adv. what he had on his lot I did not like the color combo. He asked what I was looking for, called the regional rep and he located one on the west coast just in from Japan. By the time I moved on it, less than 24 hrs, it was gone. But, a SH-SH-AWD was there too. Now on the way to Houston. Ask your dealer to reach out to the regional rep. Worth a try
Your initial post poked me into inquiring with my dealer about a new PAWs Adv. what he had on his lot I did not like the color combo. He asked what I was looking for, called the regional rep and he located one on the west coast just in from Japan. By the time I moved on it, less than 24 hrs, it was gone. But, a SH-SH-AWD was there too. Now on the way to Houston. Ask your dealer to reach out to the regional rep. Worth a try
09-25-2017, 07:54 PM
#34
Racer
Thread Starter
Update: So I listened to y'all and now I'm a owner of a 2016 Bellanova Pearl/Seacoast RLX Sports hybrid with 13,300 miles. Got it for $43,000 out the door. The prior owner had good taste and got the illuminated door sills for accessories and not so good taste by having body side mouldings and mud guards. What a great car to drive!! Loving it for sure.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR STEERING ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. MASSIVE THANKS!
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR STEERING ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. MASSIVE THANKS!
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09-25-2017, 08:12 PM
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Haha - awesome! Congrats! Love the colour combo too.
The mud guards to me anyway complete the look and will help keep her clean in inclement weather.
Looking forward to hearing of your impressions as you drive it more. Welcome to the exclusive club!
The mud guards to me anyway complete the look and will help keep her clean in inclement weather.
Looking forward to hearing of your impressions as you drive it more. Welcome to the exclusive club!
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