ELS 3D Audio System
#121
I am more curious of how it compares to the other els systems. From what I remember, my 4G sounded better than my TLX now. I was so bummed about that. The last gen TSX/RDX wasn't as good either.
#122
WayTooManyAcuras
My 14 RDX was my last car with the DVD-A ELS system. I replaced it with a 17 which had the DTS-CD only ELS system. I hated that version. It sounded like crap, especially with iPod's and stereo CDs. It's one of the main reasons I went a year early to get the 19. The 19 runs rings around that previous ELS system and sounds more like the DVD-A ELS systems. To me anyway.
#123
In fact, I just modified one of those test files to be a 4.0 channel identification .flac file and tried it in the car. IT DOES NOT WORK!
The rear channel information goes to the front speakers, so for future reference, if you want 4 channel in the ELS 3D System, you need an empty center and LFE channel in your flac or wav file.
The rear channel information goes to the front speakers, so for future reference, if you want 4 channel in the ELS 3D System, you need an empty center and LFE channel in your flac or wav file.
Crazy. The common knowledge from 5.1 encoding, as far as I can recall, is that smart variety of decoders either direct LFE channel to the subwoofer if this channel is present (regardless of whether it is actually used or empty), or creates LFE channel from front (or all?) channels to balance the sound and ensure sufficient bass. So, generally, the idea was that if you do not have a center or an LFE channel, you should not create an empty one to not interfere with what decoder does... But in this case, it is not an option, and with the empty LFE channel, I assume, subwoofer is totally silent. Is this the case?
The way how I see it as a bigger picture, FLAC playbac is not listed in the spec of the vehicle and its implementation is kind of experimental, without enough effort put into it to make it work as it should, and without warranty that it would work. We can only hope that they will eventually start developing it as a specified, quality-controlled feature of the software.
What is your best known method of adding empty center and LFE channels? Do you do it in a sound editor, e.g., Adobe Audition or similar, or is there a simpler and faster way?
Last edited by AndyI; 08-18-2018 at 12:15 AM.
#124
Internal Memory
It would have been nice to have the ability to upload my music library to the internal memory of the audio system. This would free up the single active usb port for apple car play. It would also eliminate the need for indexing the music files every time the car is started.
#125
Does anyone have the actual specifications/details of the new ELS system in the 2019 RDX. I can find the basic information in the press release and owners manual, but not much detail. Same with online. Maybe I am missing something.
#126
Advanced
I experienced that, too, a couple of times. My first guess would be that one needs a faster (USB 3.0) flash drive. I used an old 8GB one (from fear to forget it in the car when returning the loaner), which was USB 2.0 at best, if not USB 1.0. This does not seem to make a lot of sense, but it is the only parameter in our control.
If this does not help, it must be a software glitch or underpowered / underperforming processor in the navi/sound system running at its performance limit. Which, BTW, could also explain why it does not like 24/96...
#127
For anyone interested in 5.1 flac files who doesn't already own a bunch of DVD-A disks and/or doesn't want to go through the conversion effort, I came across this site last night:
https://www.onkyomusic.com/US/home
only legal download site I have seen that has high res (5.1) flac files for sale. Looks to be a much better selection than the limited DVD-A disks on Amazon.
https://www.onkyomusic.com/US/home
only legal download site I have seen that has high res (5.1) flac files for sale. Looks to be a much better selection than the limited DVD-A disks on Amazon.
#128
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I am very disappointed in my ELS system.
It sounds so good with good quality stuff, that it makes XM sound like sh!t. Then, put in high quality stuff, and it is amazing. I want to like XM enough to keep it at the discount rate due to its ease of use, but it just sounds like crap compared, even, to bluetooth streamed music.
It sounds so good with good quality stuff, that it makes XM sound like sh!t. Then, put in high quality stuff, and it is amazing. I want to like XM enough to keep it at the discount rate due to its ease of use, but it just sounds like crap compared, even, to bluetooth streamed music.
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But I can actually hear the difference, which I could not in my wife’s EX-L Accord.
#131
WayTooManyAcuras
For anyone interested in 5.1 flac files who doesn't already own a bunch of DVD-A disks and/or doesn't want to go through the conversion effort, I came across this site last night:
https://www.onkyomusic.com/US/home
only legal download site I have seen that has high res (5.1) flac files for sale. Looks to be a much better selection than the limited DVD-A disks on Amazon.
https://www.onkyomusic.com/US/home
only legal download site I have seen that has high res (5.1) flac files for sale. Looks to be a much better selection than the limited DVD-A disks on Amazon.
There are a few classical places that sell 5.1 downloads, but as far as I know, there are no known sites that legally sell 5.1 pop/rock/hiphop/modern music. Unfortunately.
#132
Um, no. Yes, those are HiRez .flac files for sale, but they are stereo (2.0), just like HDTracks and ProStudioMasters.
There are a few classical places that sell 5.1 downloads, but as far as I know, there are no known sites that legally sell 5.1 pop/rock/hiphop/modern music. Unfortunately.
There are a few classical places that sell 5.1 downloads, but as far as I know, there are no known sites that legally sell 5.1 pop/rock/hiphop/modern music. Unfortunately.
#133
WayTooManyAcuras
You are correct, my mistake. I read the following https://www.cnet.com/news/onkyo-to-o...sic-downloads/ about this site late last night, and while is was expected to offer 5.1 channel downloads, I'm not seeing any as I look through it today.
That would be great if they did.
#134
WayTooManyAcuras
Hey Dr. Woo. I just noticed that the article you posted the link for was from 2012!!! Oh well.
#135
Cruisin'
I am very disappointed in my ELS system.
It sounds so good with good quality stuff, that it makes XM sound like sh!t. Then, put in high quality stuff, and it is amazing. I want to like XM enough to keep it at the discount rate due to its ease of use, but it just sounds like crap compared, even, to bluetooth streamed music.
It sounds so good with good quality stuff, that it makes XM sound like sh!t. Then, put in high quality stuff, and it is amazing. I want to like XM enough to keep it at the discount rate due to its ease of use, but it just sounds like crap compared, even, to bluetooth streamed music.
#136
I am very disappointed in my ELS system.
It sounds so good with good quality stuff, that it makes XM sound like sh!t. Then, put in high quality stuff, and it is amazing. I want to like XM enough to keep it at the discount rate due to its ease of use, but it just sounds like crap compared, even, to bluetooth streamed music.
It sounds so good with good quality stuff, that it makes XM sound like sh!t. Then, put in high quality stuff, and it is amazing. I want to like XM enough to keep it at the discount rate due to its ease of use, but it just sounds like crap compared, even, to bluetooth streamed music.
#137
2013 RDX tech Amber
Has anyone seen the audio setting that says it helps with the sound of lower bit rate compressed audio like Sirius XM. I have turned it on and off but can't tell a difference.
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