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Old 09-05-2018, 07:17 AM
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Acura chief interviewed by Autoline

Acura Chief engineer discuss RDX with Autoline.

28:00 he talks about improvements made to acoustic over gen2
34:46 he admits rough shifting issue. From the response it doesn’t look like it will be a soft fix.


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He can claim acoustic improvements all day long, but I hear more noise, mostly road noise. Maybe the choice in tires is to blame, but I won’t know until my wife needs tires and I put better rubber on.
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Well at least be admitted it. A now everyone can bring that to their dealer.

Anyone else notice it?

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Funny I find the tranny a dream compared to the 9AT ZF in my TLX.
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It’s not normal to have rough shift. Not everyone experiences it, that’s why it’s a problem but wide enough to have him acknowledge the problem.

be glad that you have a butter like shift. When I test drove the advance, it was smooth and I didn’t detect any rough shifting

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Funny I find the tranny a dream compared to the 9AT ZF in my TLX.
this was my number one concern in going with the rdx... that 9sp zf just about killed Acura to me... did you take a test drive in your actual car before delivery? It seems like a bit of a lottery... I am concerned because the one I test drove was smooth and weirdness free, but mine had to be ordered (scheduled for production next week).
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He can claim acoustic improvements all day long, but I hear more noise, mostly road noise. Maybe the choice in tires is to blame, but I won’t know until my wife needs tires and I put better rubber on.
FWIW the Aspec does not have acoustic side glass, the different tires which are wider create more road noise according to AlexonAutos), and has different exhaust tips (not sure if that makes any diff)
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Originally Posted by qwxilvr

this was my number one concern in going with the rdx... that 9sp zf just about killed Acura to me... did you take a test drive in your actual car before delivery? It seems like a bit of a lottery... I am concerned because the one I test drove was smooth and weirdness free, but mine had to be ordered (scheduled for production next week).
My 15 TLX was a late build and was past the worst of the 9AT ZF issues, but even with all the updates through 16 it still sucked with laggy, missed/late shifts. My 19 ASPEC 9AT ZF is much better, still far from perfect and I would never own this car, but as a lease it is fine for the next 2 years or so then I will move on to hopefully a Type-S TLX V6 Turbo or I will be in Genesis G70 Sport or G80 Sport.
Old 09-06-2018, 11:44 AM
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I can report I have no issues with a hard shift on my transmission too.
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Despite all of peoples that are unsatisfied with 2019 RDX, I am on the other hand are happy with my A-Spec purchased period, now is time to enjoy driving it..
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That new Genesis G70 is supposed to be one hell of a car! The reviews done on it were excellent. I thought about one of those myself but I want to keep my Audi another year.
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Originally Posted by KeithL
He can claim acoustic improvements all day long, but I hear more noise, mostly road noise. Maybe the choice in tires is to blame, but I won’t know until my wife needs tires and I put better rubber on.
I agree. My Advance has lots more road noise than I expected. Also quite a bit of exhaust noise, but I guess that goes with the "sporty" character. Maybe it's just because my primary comparison is to our 2014 MDX, and that's pretty quiet. ( And the smoothness of that Hondamatic 6-speed transmission is hard to match as well... )

But tire noise varies dramatically with the type of road surface, and that could be a feature of the tires. I'll know more in a few months when I swap on the winter rubber. But if past experience is a guide, things usually seem pretty quiet after I take off the winter tires in spring...
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What tires are you seeing on the RDX's you purchased? My wife and I find that our RDX is very quiet and we don't hear much/any road noise at all on our Advance. I know that different tire manufacturers may get used based on vehicle manufacture date and what's "in stock" at the plant or manufacture and/or trim level.
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Originally Posted by securityguy
What tires are you seeing on the RDX's you purchased? My wife and I find that our RDX is very quiet and we don't hear much/any road noise at all on our Advance. I know that different tire manufacturers may get used based on vehicle manufacture date and what's "in stock" at the plant or manufacture and/or trim level.
that's a good question, I know in other "disappointed" thread folks have mentioned their installs. It would be good to share the wheels they received so we can compare notes. I'm uncertain of Acura but I know that not every car gets the same brand of tires in the European counterparts, it often varies on regions and timings.

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I have factory Contis installed. On smooth asphalt with no road imperfections the tire noise is excellent, but on anything else its obvious. Asphalt that has imperfections (majority of roads) and you hear the tire noise. Also the noise of the engine under acceleration is far louder in the cabin than her 16 RDX was or even my ASPEC TLX. Her 16 RDX had factory tires first 2 years then Pro Contact Conti's which I loved, they had great handling and comfort and were very quiet.
Old 09-07-2018, 11:51 AM
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The engine noise part. G3 RDX pipes in engine noise when in sports mode. I am sure the old RDX does not do that
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I'm pretty sure all RDX except 20" wheels come with the Continentals. Tirerack.com list only those as OEM tires and I know for a fact that for other vehicles that have multiple OEM tires they list all of them.
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Originally Posted by acuraada
The engine noise part. G3 RDX pipes in engine noise when in sports mode. I am sure the old RDX does not do that

been driving in in comfort mode, and does it pipe noise in with the Advance? I thought that was an ASPEC thing?
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Not only ASpec my Advance pipes in 'enhanced' sound in sport and sport+. Be nice if it could be turned off if desired.
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Well I run the car in Comfort mode. I need to look for the ANC module in the new RDX, I found it in my TLX ASPEC and unplugged it and piped in sound was gone.
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I'd like to unplug the thing too, but I want to keep the noise cancellation function for max quiet. Hopefully Hondata has something to offer soon.
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I will be honest in my TLX I could not tell any difference in noise with the ANC unplugged. Only thing I noticed was lack of fake engine noise. I would be also it was placebo effect, but I swear ELS sounds a bit cleaner. I had read others say similar, but it was not like night and day.
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Well I run the car in Comfort mode. I need to look for the ANC module in the new RDX, I found it in my TLX ASPEC and unplugged it and piped in sound was gone.
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Can you post the linked page on removal, I just want ot figure out how to open the bottom part of center console area, I am hoping it is not a pull the entire console out thing. Thx
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OK I spent some time fiddling around. I had a 50/50 chance and started with passengers's side and took the bottom glove box trim out so I could then remove part of the right lower console trim. Dead end as the HVAC duct to rear runs down right side. Put it back together and tried right side. The accelerator makes it tight, but the lower left trim you just pop out the lower piece back by seat then pop out by peddle and pull toward seat. Sure enough the ANC module is ride there below where the powe outer is. Easy to pull cable and no more ANC. Started car and no warning light everything was quiet. Will know soon if it helps or not about to go out in a little bit. Will report back later.
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I had always thought that ANC meant Automatic Noise Cancellation. But, these days, it seems to mean Automatic Noise Creation.
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That's the thing.....disable the phony engine sound but keep the noise reduction function. I guess we'll see what he says, its a good first step.
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I wasn't disappointed, but I wasn't impressed by my RDX's road noise. I then discovered the dealer installed the body plugs in the wrong holes. After I moved them to the correct holes and bought four additional plugs for the other holes, I'm now satisfied with the road noise. It's still not as quiet as my 2017 Ridgeline, but it's acceptable and MUCH quieter than my 2018 Accord Sport which was almost deafening on coarse pavement.

My 2-3 shift was pretty bad during the first 1,000 miles. I started driving it fairly aggressively when I could after the 600-mile break-in period was up and smoothed out significantly. I'm nearing 1,500 miles and the 2-3 shift is almost acceptable now.

Unfortunately, the terrible vibration while stopped in reverse while the engine is cold remains. I've resorted to backing into my garage at night so that I don't have to use reverse in the mornings. That's really the only significant complaint I have at this point.
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OK, first report. Drove about 20 minutes and to be honest maybe the ANC helps keep the engine noise down a bit, it not much. Road noise is harder to tell. On the road with average asphalt it was quiet. I told ire to drive it all week this way and see what she thinks. I do think it helps quit the racket from th engine, but little or no impact on road noise. I only drive her RDX once a week and will say my TLX is tomb quiet inside compared to her 19 RDX Advance. Most of the road noise to me sounds like it comes from rear half of car. If I had to drive this every day ANC or not the engine noise is too excessive and rackety for me. My guess is I will be reconnecting the ANC next weekend. Unplugging the ANC in my TLX was huge improvement because ther was fake engine noise in all modes.
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Originally Posted by acuraada
that's a good question, I know in other "disappointed" thread folks have mentioned their installs. It would be good to share the wheels they received so we can compare notes. I'm uncertain of Acura but I know that not every car gets the same brand of tires in the European counterparts, it often varies on regions and timings.
Yes on the European cars. In our other car, MB GLA 250 4MATIC, the road noise is significant. It changes subject to surface, but its run on flat tires are rough by definition and are noticeably noisy. It was a substantial discussion of noise effect on the GLA forum, which clearly revealed that those who changed tires got rid of excessive noise right away.
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Wife drove all day with ANC disabled and said not a big difference, but said it does sound like there is a little more noise so the ANC is now reconnected. Either way it is not making a huge improvement.
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OK, first report. Drove about 20 minutes and to be honest maybe the ANC helps keep the engine noise down a bit, it not much. Road noise is harder to tell. On the road with average asphalt it was quiet. I told ire to drive it all week this way and see what she thinks. I do think it helps quit the racket from th engine, but little or no impact on road noise. I only drive her RDX once a week and will say my TLX is tomb quiet inside compared to her 19 RDX Advance. Most of the road noise to me sounds like it comes from rear half of car. If I had to drive this every day ANC or not the engine noise is too excessive and rackety for me. My guess is I will be reconnecting the ANC next weekend. Unplugging the ANC in my TLX was huge improvement because ther was fake engine noise in all modes.
Could be the stiffer structure conducts more energy (ie noise) into the cabin and perhaps the new structure does not allow as much room for sound deadening materials.
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I don't think that the RDX is noisy at all but I don't have another Acura to compare it to. To me, and I have had some very nice cars, it is quiet.
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I don't think that the RDX is noisy at all but I don't have another Acura to compare it to. To me, and I have had some very nice cars, it is quiet.
Go test a 2017-current Ridgeline RTL-E or Black Edition if you get a chance. Interior noises levels are lower at cruise than a MB S-class according to Car and Driver. I really enjoyed the peace and quiet inside mine.
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