The Windows Home Server Thread
03-09-2011, 06:15 PM
#241
MS released a KB article about WHS and the new Advanced Format Disks.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2385...rss&spid=12624
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2385...rss&spid=12624
The next version of Windows Home Server will support Advanced Format disk in 512 emulated mode from most manufacturers and supports disks larger than 2 terabytes as storage disk, however Extensible Firmware Interface BIOS is required for the System Disk otherwise capacity exceeding 2 terabytes will not be utilized.
03-09-2011, 06:22 PM
#242
Sanest Florida Man
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BIOS and MBR only support disks up to 2.1TB in size. So to use a disk larger than 2.1TB as your system boot disk you need to have an EFI mobo and GPT disk.
03-11-2011, 06:57 PM
#244
Sanest Florida Man
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Huh? WHS is basically windows 7/vista. So any drivers for 7 or vista will work on WHS
03-11-2011, 07:28 PM
#245
Team Owner
I read up on the storage solutions for Vail and decided it's not for me as a file server. It's cool in concept as a media server, but RAID is such a gigantic pain in the ass compared to DE that I'll live without it's media serving capabilities.
03-12-2011, 03:49 AM
#246
well i had to trick whs into loading 7 drivers on most of the devices. I can't get the USB3 to be supported but its not a big deal since I don't have any usb3 devices anyways. Learning whs is a big step for me since i've been out of a windows environment since xp
03-12-2011, 03:56 AM
#247
Sanest Florida Man
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If you have the .inf or other driver files for USB3 in a folder then you can use device manager, right click on the unknown device and choose update. Then select manual method and it to the folder with the drivers in it and it should see it.
03-12-2011, 01:36 PM
#250
Sanest Florida Man
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What are the error messages saying?
03-12-2011, 03:09 PM
#252
Sanest Florida Man
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So that means you're giving up on WHS?
03-12-2011, 03:38 PM
#254
Sanest Florida Man
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I just don't see how a driver will work on 7 but not WHS. They're the same code base. I've installed 7 drivers my hyper-v server 2008 R2 box and they worked fine. When you try WHS again let me know and I'll help you get it working.
I think it's something with the install file not recognizing the WHS OS. I bet turning on compatibility mode for the install file would've fixed it.
I think it's something with the install file not recognizing the WHS OS. I bet turning on compatibility mode for the install file would've fixed it.
03-12-2011, 04:44 PM
#255
I just don't see how a driver will work on 7 but not WHS. They're the same code base. I've installed 7 drivers my hyper-v server 2008 R2 box and they worked fine. When you try WHS again let me know and I'll help you get it working.
I think it's something with the install file not recognizing the WHS OS. I bet turning on compatibility mode for the install file would've fixed it.
I think it's something with the install file not recognizing the WHS OS. I bet turning on compatibility mode for the install file would've fixed it.
03-12-2011, 05:02 PM
#256
Sanest Florida Man
Thread Starter
What mobo/processor did you end up getting?
04-01-2011, 12:39 PM
#258
Sanest Florida Man
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WHS Vail has reached RTM stage
When will OEM’s offer WHS 2011? Many OEM’s and System Builders have already started building specific form factors and solutions based on WHS 2011. We expect to start seeing them in the market starting May.
What languages is WHS 2011 available in? WHS 2011 will be released in 19 languages including Chinese (Simplified), Chinese (Traditional, Taiwan), Chinese (Hong Kong), Czech, Dutch, English, French, German, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Polish, Portuguese (Brazil), Portuguese (Portugal), Russian, Spanish, Swedish, and Turkish.
When will the Evaluation for WHS 2011 be made available? The evaluation experience for WHS 2011 will be released in early April.
When will I be able to download WHS 2011 via my TechNet or MSDN subscription? WHS 2011 will be made available on MSDN and TechNet also in early April.
What is the difference between V1 of WHS and WHS 2011? You can learn more about differences in our comparison datasheet (.docx file).
What languages is WHS 2011 available in? WHS 2011 will be released in 19 languages including Chinese (Simplified), Chinese (Traditional, Taiwan), Chinese (Hong Kong), Czech, Dutch, English, French, German, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Polish, Portuguese (Brazil), Portuguese (Portugal), Russian, Spanish, Swedish, and Turkish.
When will the Evaluation for WHS 2011 be made available? The evaluation experience for WHS 2011 will be released in early April.
When will I be able to download WHS 2011 via my TechNet or MSDN subscription? WHS 2011 will be made available on MSDN and TechNet also in early April.
What is the difference between V1 of WHS and WHS 2011? You can learn more about differences in our comparison datasheet (.docx file).
04-01-2011, 01:23 PM
#259
Team Owner
:crickets:
04-05-2011, 12:30 PM
#260
Sanest Florida Man
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WHS 2011 RTM is now up on MSDN and Technet! Downloading now....
I also ordered another 2TB Black drive. Now that I'm ripping blurays I'm thinking about replacing my two 1.5TB blacks with two more 2TBs. We'll see how the 1.5Tb holds up. I still got 700GB free so I should be fine.
I also ordered another 2TB Black drive. Now that I'm ripping blurays I'm thinking about replacing my two 1.5TB blacks with two more 2TBs. We'll see how the 1.5Tb holds up. I still got 700GB free so I should be fine.
04-05-2011, 01:00 PM
#261
Three Wheelin'
What are you using for disk redundancy in WHS 2011? I'm thinking about using Microsoft's built-in software RAID 1, but not sure how well it's going to work. I don't think there's a warning or alert letting me know if disk 1 fails. Also, it won't automatically boot to disk 1 if disk 0 fails.
04-07-2011, 01:58 AM
#262
Sanest Florida Man
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I'm using this.
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http://usingwindowshomeserver.com/20...video-edition/
I'm mirroring my media drive. I have two 1.5tbs so one 1.5tb is mirrored on to the other 1.5tb. Then when my 2Tb drive arrives tomorrow I'll be using the server backup feature of WHS to backup my backups and the WHS OS.
<object width="640" height="390"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/rCSNDBZCKmY&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&versi on=3"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/rCSNDBZCKmY&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&versi on=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></embed></object>
http://usingwindowshomeserver.com/20...video-edition/
I'm mirroring my media drive. I have two 1.5tbs so one 1.5tb is mirrored on to the other 1.5tb. Then when my 2Tb drive arrives tomorrow I'll be using the server backup feature of WHS to backup my backups and the WHS OS.
06-11-2011, 02:08 PM
#263
Team Owner
Does any other MFG make small home servers besides the two listed here? http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...erver/buy.mspx
HP used to make one but looks like they are discontinued?
I'm thinking about either a home server or a NAS. If I went with home server it would need to be small and quiet. I want something that I can put time machine backups on and stream video to a WD TV and maybe iPad.
HP used to make one but looks like they are discontinued?
I'm thinking about either a home server or a NAS. If I went with home server it would need to be small and quiet. I want something that I can put time machine backups on and stream video to a WD TV and maybe iPad.
06-11-2011, 02:13 PM
#264
Sanest Florida Man
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06-26-2011, 11:05 PM
#265
Sanest Florida Man
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Well, I wiped out my WHS 2011 install today and got rid of it
and replaced it with Windows SBS 2011 Essentials! It's the business version of WHS, I spent the day setting it up. I'm getting rid of my Server 2008 R2 and WHS VMs and replacing them with SBS Essentials. I'm going to be reinstalling exchange 2010 on it in a little bit. My hard drive that had all my exchange data on it died so it needed to be reinstalled and while 2008 R2 Enterprise was cool and all it's a bit overkill for me and I didn't like the two VMs competing for resources and RAM so SBS Essentials is a good combo of both WHS and Server 2008 R2.
I really liked how easy it was to create the domain on SBS Essentials and once you added a PC to it for backup it even added it to the domain for you and once you restarted it offered to transfer data and settings from your Local Account to the new domain account on your PC! Too bad it didn't work for me.....
Other than that it's been great, only feature I lose with the business version is media streaming over the web and network but I never use the web streaming and there's many better alternatives than Windows Media Connect for DLNA streaming. WMC is pretty slow at updating it's library, it can takes hours, days, weeks or years for it to add new media sometimes which is quite frustrating.
and replaced it with Windows SBS 2011 Essentials! It's the business version of WHS, I spent the day setting it up. I'm getting rid of my Server 2008 R2 and WHS VMs and replacing them with SBS Essentials. I'm going to be reinstalling exchange 2010 on it in a little bit. My hard drive that had all my exchange data on it died so it needed to be reinstalled and while 2008 R2 Enterprise was cool and all it's a bit overkill for me and I didn't like the two VMs competing for resources and RAM so SBS Essentials is a good combo of both WHS and Server 2008 R2.
I really liked how easy it was to create the domain on SBS Essentials and once you added a PC to it for backup it even added it to the domain for you and once you restarted it offered to transfer data and settings from your Local Account to the new domain account on your PC! Too bad it didn't work for me.....
Other than that it's been great, only feature I lose with the business version is media streaming over the web and network but I never use the web streaming and there's many better alternatives than Windows Media Connect for DLNA streaming. WMC is pretty slow at updating it's library, it can takes hours, days, weeks or years for it to add new media sometimes which is quite frustrating.
Last edited by #1 STUNNA; 06-26-2011 at 11:08 PM.
06-28-2011, 12:59 PM
#266
Team Owner
Stunna (or anyone else who might know),
My son's new PC developed a problem over the weekend, and my first shot at getting it to work was to try and just restore from backup.
The LAN port on his motherboard can be put into a state where it stops working -- which is something I had to update his Win7 drivers to eliminate. Unfortunately, the WHS restore disk has drivers that disable the port.
Is there a way to customize the restore disk to have updated drivers instead of those that were included with the disk image? WHS restore recognizes the LAN port, but won't find the updated drivers on a flash stick so I think my only choices are to disable his on-board LAN and buy another card, or to modify the restore disk.
My son's new PC developed a problem over the weekend, and my first shot at getting it to work was to try and just restore from backup.
The LAN port on his motherboard can be put into a state where it stops working -- which is something I had to update his Win7 drivers to eliminate. Unfortunately, the WHS restore disk has drivers that disable the port.
Is there a way to customize the restore disk to have updated drivers instead of those that were included with the disk image? WHS restore recognizes the LAN port, but won't find the updated drivers on a flash stick so I think my only choices are to disable his on-board LAN and buy another card, or to modify the restore disk.
06-28-2011, 01:11 PM
#267
Sanest Florida Man
Thread Starter
If it doesn't recognize the drivers from the flash drive, IDK what else to do besides use another NIC. they're pretty cheap. I guess if you find where drivers are stored on the restore CD you could rebuild the disc after adding your drivers to the right folder. never done that before though....
06-28-2011, 01:17 PM
#268
Team Owner
Yeah I figured it was a long shot. I'll just pony up and buy a NIC.
10-12-2011, 12:11 AM
#269
Sanest Florida Man
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bump for inclusion in teh new forum
10-12-2011, 12:22 AM
#270
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Thanks dude, I'm going through and moving these threads along with many others. May take a couple days as I go through pages and pages of search results. We've got a lot of tech related threads!
10-22-2012, 09:52 AM
#271
Three Wheelin'
I upgraded my Windows Home Server 2011 to Windows Server 2012 Essentials. Problem is after the install, it seems like file copying is really slow (10 MB/s) and the system hangs while copying. I can't do anything else on the server while it's going. This is between 2 internal hard drives, not over the network. Does this seem normal? The hardware isn't the best, but I would think file copying isn't a huge problem. It has a AMD Athlon X2 4450B 2.3GHz, 4 GB memory, and 2 5400 RPM internal SATA hard drives. Would adding memory help?
10-22-2012, 10:03 AM
#272
Sanest Florida Man
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Maybe one of your drives is about to die and you're just noticing it now after the upgrade.
If your drive is failing it may lock up the system while file copying. Check the event viewer for any errors though you may not find any. How old are the drives?
If your drive is failing it may lock up the system while file copying. Check the event viewer for any errors though you may not find any. How old are the drives?
10-22-2012, 10:22 AM
#274
Sanest Florida Man
Thread Starter
yeah that sound like a failing drive to me....
10-22-2012, 10:38 AM
#275
Three Wheelin'
Damn, I just replaced a failing drive on another PC few months ago. Is there a way to test for failing drive? I think it's still under warranty so I hope they'll replace it for me.
10-22-2012, 11:34 AM
#276
Sanest Florida Man
Thread Starter
yeah you can go to the manufacturer's website and they'll have drive testing tools but even then that' not guaranteed to tell you it's failing. Drives can pass all tests but still be failing. Though if you do get an error then it's definite. Seagate has SeaTools and WD has Data Lifeguard Tools. They usually like you to run these tools and see if you get an error code before doing an RMA though an error code isn't required to get an RMA.
07-02-2013, 11:20 AM
#277
Team Owner
The home server is a really tough environment for hard drives. I've had a number of failures over the years, and unfortunately Drive Extender isn't quite robust enough to guarantee no data loss when a drive fails.
I'm replacing the latest failed drive with a 2TB Seagate Constellation drive that I hope will be more resilient, but I think I will get working on retiring my existing server and replacing it with an updated one based on Windows Server 2012 Essentials and using Storage Spaces.
Is this a good thread for that discussion or should we start a new thread?
I'm replacing the latest failed drive with a 2TB Seagate Constellation drive that I hope will be more resilient, but I think I will get working on retiring my existing server and replacing it with an updated one based on Windows Server 2012 Essentials and using Storage Spaces.
Is this a good thread for that discussion or should we start a new thread?
07-02-2013, 03:50 PM
#278
Three Wheelin'
I tried Server 2012 Essentials, but didn't like how it forced you into a domain environment so I went back to Home Server 2011. I wish they gave you an option of not using a domain.
07-02-2013, 05:15 PM
#279
Team Owner
I've been thinking maybe going to HS 2011 and using something like Stablebit DrivePool to get around the restrictions on storage that HS 2011 introduced. But I think taking the long view I'd be better off getting on the newer, more flexible, supported server software.
07-02-2013, 07:39 PM
#280
Three Wheelin'
This was almost a year ago but I think my main problem was that since it's a domain controller, it has Active Directory, DNS, and DCHP service on it. And I don't run my server 24/7, but with DNS and DCHP it had to be on whenever I had any device on the network.