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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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Verizon buying Alltel

Huh??

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...AJI&refer=home
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 10:28 PM
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Skynet here we come.
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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Does any one actually know anyone who has alltel?
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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^My parents and my brother. It's the only service, other than US Cellular, that works in Scandinavia, WI.
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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Well. I dont count people who live in Scandinavia, WI. as people anyways. So again does anyone know anyone that uses Alltel?






j/k
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 11:01 PM
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They are the only ones. That's why Alltell sold. Duh.
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 11:59 PM
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Good... now my peeps w/ alltel will be able to hear me...finally!
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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Can you hear them now?
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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How about now?
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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That means their stupid commercials with the wizard will be gone forever!!
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by moeronn
That means their stupid commercials with the wizard will be gone forever!!
I thought that was travelocity.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 08:49 AM
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isn't he the gnome?
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 09:08 AM
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Finally approved huh. Was curious when it would happen, they started talking about the acquisition several months ago.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 11:44 PM
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I'll find out next week sometime if I still have a job.... Legal day one is next Friday.

YAY for mergers.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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good luck dude!

Hope it goes better than the sprint/nextel merger.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by quinto1025
good luck dude!

Hope it goes better than the sprint/nextel merger.

Should work seamlessly. Sprint is a CDMA based technology. Nextel was IDEN. Sprint tried to merge both and failed miserably. Alltel, and VZW are both CDMA... network wise this should be smooth. Job wise, it'll be rough.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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I'll find out next week sometime if I still have a job.... Legal day one is next Friday.

YAY for mergers.
If you have any input, get rid of the stupid Alltel commercials. Gawd I hate them.
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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 07:39 PM
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Well, shortly before noon I became a Verizon Wireless employee.
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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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congrats on keeping your job.
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 12:30 AM
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can we use verizon phones on the Alltel network now?
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 01:07 AM
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No... network convergence hasn't taken place yet. New PRLs have been released... However, customers will have to wait for an official release from VZW as to when they feel everything is ready.
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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^What's a PRL?
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 03:21 AM
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by PhiSigBrotha
Primary roaming list
Almost...
Easier to copy past then to re-type...

A PRL (Preferred Roaming List) is not a program. It's not something that will magically increase your signal. As the name implies, what it is is a list of SIDs (System ID, which is a five digit number that indicates which service area the phone is in). This list is specific to each provider and contains information about which SIDs your phone is allowed to roam on, the order of priority, and other tidbits like EvDO capability (hence the "Preferred" and "Roaming" in the name).

So, all it does is group the SIDs into geographical areas and then start at the top and work their way down until they get a usable signal. To wit (example from my Alltel PRL 40023):

(index followed by SID)
0 - 00240
1 - 04153
2 - 04154
3 - 00366

The phone first checks to see if I am in my home SID 240 (not roaming). If I am, that's it. Done. The PRL serves no further function.

If I'm not in SID 240, then my phone moves down the list to look for 4153 (Sprint). If it's available, it connects. If not, then it moves on to checking for 4154 (Verizon), 366 (Cellcom), etc.

Now, you can edit the list if you have a PRL editor (the file is in hex). I did so to move Cellcom down, since Alltel doesn't have a data roaming agreement with them. However, most users would never have a reason to do this.

If you are not in your home area, then the PRL starts looking for preferred roaming partners' SIDs in a certain order. It does not take strength of signal or any other factors into account... either the SID is available or it isn't. In my example above, once I leave SID 240, my phone will attempt to connect to 4153 (Sprint). If it's available, it will "lock on" to it, even if it's a weak signal and 4154 (Verizon) has a stronger signal. (This is an example of where editing the priority index would be helpful).

Hopefully this helps clear things up a bit. I've seen too many posts lately stating that "I updated my PRL and now my signal is way better!". Unless you are roaming, or a *major* network upgrade took place in your area, a PRL update isn't going to make that much difference, if any.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 12:36 PM
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Thanks for the info. I recently switched to Verizon and was curious because at our cabin in Scandinavia verizon didn't work, but Alltell did. With the new PRLs, then my Verizon phone should work up there?
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
If you have any input, get rid of the stupid Alltel commercials. Gawd I hate them.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sho_nuff1997
Thanks for the info. I recently switched to Verizon and was curious because at our cabin in Scandinavia verizon didn't work, but Alltell did. With the new PRLs, then my Verizon phone should work up there?
Scandinavia WI? Appleton WI is our POP out there and that market is not being divested so in time you should notice an improvement if things haven't gotten better already.

Regarding the commercials, I believe they have been pulled as of the 9th. Now if your local cable CO keeps airing them that's up to them...
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jnc2000
Scandinavia WI? Appleton WI is our POP out there and that market is not being divested so in time you should notice an improvement if things haven't gotten better already.
Ya. Scandinavia, WI--it's not too far from Appleton. I plan on going up there in the next couple weeks, so I can see if my phone works up there.


Regarding the commercials, I believe they have been pulled as of the 9th. Now if your local cable CO keeps airing them that's up to them...

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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 01:29 AM
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Well, time to start house/apt shopping. I'll be moving, we got word of it today. Still don't know where yet, we should know more by the end of this month.

Three choices...

Basking Ridge NJ
Bedminster NJ
Southlake TX

Oh, and regarding the Alltel commercials... I have a distinct feeling you might be seeing Chad and the VZW guy making buddy buddy....
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