No Hi Def DVD in 32bit Vista
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No Hi Def DVD in 32bit Vista
Don't you just love being told what you can and can't do.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3922
I suppose this will pretty much rule out any possibility of making legitimate backup copies of any Hi Def DVD's that you purchase. At least with freely available open source software. So much for fair use.
“Any next-generation high definition content will not play in x32 at all This is a decision that the Media Player folks made because there are just too many ways right now for unsigned kernel mode code [to compromise content protection]. The media companies asked us to do this and said they don’t want any of their high definition content to play in x32 at all, because of all of the unsigned malware that runs in kernel mode can get around content protection, so we had to do this,” said Riley.
In order to playback high definition Blu-ray or HD DVD content, your PC must have a 64-bit processor and a 64-bit version of Windows Vista. Running a 64-bit version of Vista means that all drivers have to be signed. This ensures that content protection is kept in place and is something that the movie studios have been pushing for to get help stomp out piracy.
In order to playback high definition Blu-ray or HD DVD content, your PC must have a 64-bit processor and a 64-bit version of Windows Vista. Running a 64-bit version of Vista means that all drivers have to be signed. This ensures that content protection is kept in place and is something that the movie studios have been pushing for to get help stomp out piracy.
I suppose this will pretty much rule out any possibility of making legitimate backup copies of any Hi Def DVD's that you purchase. At least with freely available open source software. So much for fair use.
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From: Lenexa, KS
Originally Posted by Billiam
Don't you just love being told what you can and can't do.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3922
I suppose this will pretty much rule out any possibility of making legitimate backup copies of any Hi Def DVD's that you purchase. At least with freely available open source software. So much for fair use.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3922
I suppose this will pretty much rule out any possibility of making legitimate backup copies of any Hi Def DVD's that you purchase. At least with freely available open source software. So much for fair use.
Getting the data off the disk will be an entirely different issue. I don't see it being a problem really. It just take some hacks...
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Getting the data off the disk will be an entirely different issue. I don't see it being a problem really. It just take some hacks...
in soon time, everything will be hacked
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Actually this brings up a good question. If you stick an HD DVD or Blue Ray movie disc in a corresponding computer drive, can you even see the content of the disc as data or can you only play it?
My understanding is the the content protection schemes of both formats is a combination of software on the content discs as well as hardware in the players. To state the obvious, hardware means device drivers. Since the drivers have to be digitally signed, wouldn't it be easy for the movie studios to track down the software authors of anything that allowed what they see as non-legitimate access to content on the discs?
My understanding is the the content protection schemes of both formats is a combination of software on the content discs as well as hardware in the players. To state the obvious, hardware means device drivers. Since the drivers have to be digitally signed, wouldn't it be easy for the movie studios to track down the software authors of anything that allowed what they see as non-legitimate access to content on the discs?
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From: Lenexa, KS
Originally Posted by Smalls
what do you mean?
That statement he made is so far off it's not even funny. One of them will end up being the popular choice.
p.s.
there is NO other format on the horizon anytime soon
So you'll be seeing sales of both HD-DVD and BR for awhile to come.And sales on both BR and HD-DVD have been excellent. They are FAR from dead... if there was a replacement on the horizon one could spectate the demise of both formats. However saying it now is way premature and just silly.
His statment is silly because it can be applied to ALL technology... all technology gets dated and replaced..... :duh: technically speaking everything that is new and hightech is dead by the time it's launched because someone is always working on the next best thing... Consumer media (CD,DVD,HD...) is a sticky subject though because it goes through forums to get approved for standards. So it's not like someone is going to drop a new HD standard on the market in the next 2 years anyway.
I do hope the next generation is on holographic storage though.
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From: Lenexa, KS
Originally Posted by Billiam
Actually this brings up a good question. If you stick an HD DVD or Blue Ray movie disc in a corresponding computer drive, can you even see the content of the disc as data or can you only play it?
My understanding is the the content protection schemes of both formats is a combination of software on the content discs as well as hardware in the players. To state the obvious, hardware means device drivers. Since the drivers have to be digitally signed, wouldn't it be easy for the movie studios to track down the software authors of anything that allowed what they see as non-legitimate access to content on the discs?
My understanding is the the content protection schemes of both formats is a combination of software on the content discs as well as hardware in the players. To state the obvious, hardware means device drivers. Since the drivers have to be digitally signed, wouldn't it be easy for the movie studios to track down the software authors of anything that allowed what they see as non-legitimate access to content on the discs?
Billiam,
The reason for the Vista wierdness is because the video once off the drive and into a decoder goes across the computer bus decrypted when it's played. So if someone wrote a custom video driver to capture the raw video data it would render the copy protection scheme useless.
Bare in mind the uncompressed data would take a insane ammount of disk space to store anyway...
I'm sure there will be a way to rip the data off the HD-DVD or BR disc for making duplicates. It will probably just take some time before it's mainstream.
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Well, I'm just speaking based on the discussion I had with the Blu-Ray and HD-DVD distributor in my area a few weeks ago. He's seeing much slower than expected sales and has cut orders to match. This guy was the first to distribute Paramount and Sony DVD's in Canada and has been in business since Laserdisc came out, so I take him seriously.
Then there are also articles such as this one that seem to mirror his comments: http://news.digitaltrends.com/article11083.html
Believe what you will, but I won't be buying into a technology that will be obsolete before they settle on a standard. One standard might win but in the mean time, it's the consumers that lose. Just like what's going on with this pre-n garbage that's being released in the networking world.
Then there are also articles such as this one that seem to mirror his comments: http://news.digitaltrends.com/article11083.html
Believe what you will, but I won't be buying into a technology that will be obsolete before they settle on a standard. One standard might win but in the mean time, it's the consumers that lose. Just like what's going on with this pre-n garbage that's being released in the networking world.
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I don't think there necessarily needs to be a new form of movie storage right now. DVD is fine for most people. I'm more than happy to wait for a couple years until they:
a) Sort it out and standardize on one format
or...
b) Create a direct-to-consumer model that eliminates the need for a storage medium altogether.
Why buy a movie when you can just watch it whenever you want from your cable company? Having just sold 200 DVD's, I don't expect to start collecting again anytime soon.
a) Sort it out and standardize on one format
or...
b) Create a direct-to-consumer model that eliminates the need for a storage medium altogether.
Why buy a movie when you can just watch it whenever you want from your cable company? Having just sold 200 DVD's, I don't expect to start collecting again anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by SiGGy
Billiam,
The reason for the Vista wierdness is because the video once off the drive and into a decoder goes across the computer bus decrypted when it's played. So if someone wrote a custom video driver to capture the raw video data it would render the copy protection scheme useless.
The reason for the Vista wierdness is because the video once off the drive and into a decoder goes across the computer bus decrypted when it's played. So if someone wrote a custom video driver to capture the raw video data it would render the copy protection scheme useless.
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From: Lenexa, KS
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Well, I'm just speaking based on the discussion I had with the Blu-Ray and HD-DVD distributor in my area a few weeks ago. He's seeing much slower than expected sales and has cut orders to match. This guy was the first to distribute Paramount and Sony DVD's in Canada and has been in business since Laserdisc came out, so I take him seriously.
Then there are also articles such as this one that seem to mirror his comments: http://news.digitaltrends.com/article11083.html
Believe what you will, but I won't be buying into a technology that will be obsolete before they settle on a standard. One standard might win but in the mean time, it's the consumers that lose. Just like what's going on with this pre-n garbage that's being released in the networking world.
Then there are also articles such as this one that seem to mirror his comments: http://news.digitaltrends.com/article11083.html
Believe what you will, but I won't be buying into a technology that will be obsolete before they settle on a standard. One standard might win but in the mean time, it's the consumers that lose. Just like what's going on with this pre-n garbage that's being released in the networking world.
They did settle on a standard, it's Sony who didn't. HD-DVD was built in a public forum with input from LOTS of companies.
Sonys Blue-Ray is sub-par to HD-DVD IMO. All of their releases thus far are using MPEG-2. Their discs do have more storage than HD-DVD but that storage space is rendered useless because they are encoding the video via MPEG-2. HD-DVD can fit more video on a smaller disc because of the newer codec it's using. And to boot the codec (H.264) they are using has better video quality. And a final hammering is it's cheaper to produce a HD-DVD than it is a BR disc. And the HD-DVD players are 1/2 the price.
You cannot compare the switch from VHS to DVD, nor the switch from tape ->CD. Those are HUGE convenience items. Going from DVD to HD-DVD/BR is a quality thing, not convenience. And unfortunately the United States is all about "quantity over quality". It shows in the shitty mp3 bitrates I see that people don't care about and XM/Sirius satellite radio. Both have HORRIBLE audio quality, but lots of channels :P ... but consumers keep gobbling it up. My FM radio sounds better than XM or Sirius.
The only thing that will save HD-DVD or BR is educating consumers about HD. This brings up a new issue. Almost EVERYONE has purchased a HD TV that is NOT capable of doing 1080i or 1080p. Lots of people think their set can because it will accept a 1080i signal from their Satellite/Cable/HD-DVD/BlueRay box. The reality is anyone who purchased a TV prior to this year doesn't have a full quality HD set. And all they are watching is the TV scaling the picture down (removing information, 1/2 of it to be exact) to match the TV sets display capacity.
So now you have consumers buying 1080i/p players and hooking them up to their 720p TV sets. Of which 95% of them have no clue they are not getting the full quality HD can provide.
The difference between a 720p TV and a 1080p TV is huge. 720p TVs are 1 million pixels 1080p TVs are 2 million pixels. That's TWO TIMES the quality.
480P (345600 pixels) DVD
720P (921600 pixels ) 3x better than DVD
1080i/p (2073600 pixels) 6x better than DVD, 2x better than 720P
Anyone who reviews a HD-DVD or a BR disc on a TV that’s not a true 1080P TV is just retarded. And I've read a bunch of them online, these people continue to perpetuate the consumers misinformation on HD.
Then there's the additional problem that a bunch of HD TV owners have. Both HD-DVD and BlueRay only output a quality slightly better than DVD using the component video outputs. So if your TV only has component video input for HD, your hosed. How many people do you think will use those to hook them up unknowingly?
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Good post SiGGy, and I agree with most of it. 
The main problem is not that the consumers are uneducated, it's that there is way too much for them to understand. Standards should make it easy for the consumer, not more difficult. You buy X type of screen and Y type of player and you get high-def content.
Instead, the average consumer ends up like me:
I bought a Sony Wega LCD projection about 3 years ago and it's about 5 generations out of date already. It's neither true HD (1366x768), nor is it compatible with any new player because it only has DVI inputs. But I bought it at the time because it was a "high-def" TV and it would have been silly to buy something that wasn't high definition since I planned on keeping it for many years. It doesn't play standard def signals very well, and as it turns out, it can't play high-def either.
So what I'm left with is a $4000 box that will need to be replaced if I want to watch anything other than standard definition broadcasts or DVDs. In hindsight, I really should have just boug a nice Wega CRT for <$1000 and replace it when a new true standard is established.
From now on I'm going to be the troglodyte that waits for years to let the real standards emerge.
The main problem is not that the consumers are uneducated, it's that there is way too much for them to understand. Standards should make it easy for the consumer, not more difficult. You buy X type of screen and Y type of player and you get high-def content.
Instead, the average consumer ends up like me:
I bought a Sony Wega LCD projection about 3 years ago and it's about 5 generations out of date already. It's neither true HD (1366x768), nor is it compatible with any new player because it only has DVI inputs. But I bought it at the time because it was a "high-def" TV and it would have been silly to buy something that wasn't high definition since I planned on keeping it for many years. It doesn't play standard def signals very well, and as it turns out, it can't play high-def either.
So what I'm left with is a $4000 box that will need to be replaced if I want to watch anything other than standard definition broadcasts or DVDs. In hindsight, I really should have just boug a nice Wega CRT for <$1000 and replace it when a new true standard is established.
From now on I'm going to be the troglodyte that waits for years to let the real standards emerge.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Good post SiGGy, and I agree with most of it.
The main problem is not that the consumers are uneducated, it's that there is way too much for them to understand. Standards should make it easy for the consumer, not more difficult. You buy X type of screen and Y type of player and you get high-def content.
Instead, the average consumer ends up like me:
I bought a Sony Wega LCD projection about 3 years ago and it's about 5 generations out of date already. It's neither true HD (1366x768), nor is it compatible with any new player because it only has DVI inputs. But I bought it at the time because it was a "high-def" TV and it would have been silly to buy something that wasn't high definition since I planned on keeping it for many years. It doesn't play standard def signals very well, and as it turns out, it can't play high-def either.
So what I'm left with is a $4000 box that will need to be replaced if I want to watch anything other than standard definition broadcasts or DVDs. In hindsight, I really should have just boug a nice Wega CRT for <$1000 and replace it when a new true standard is established.
From now on I'm going to be the troglodyte that waits for years to let the real standards emerge.
The main problem is not that the consumers are uneducated, it's that there is way too much for them to understand. Standards should make it easy for the consumer, not more difficult. You buy X type of screen and Y type of player and you get high-def content.
Instead, the average consumer ends up like me:
I bought a Sony Wega LCD projection about 3 years ago and it's about 5 generations out of date already. It's neither true HD (1366x768), nor is it compatible with any new player because it only has DVI inputs. But I bought it at the time because it was a "high-def" TV and it would have been silly to buy something that wasn't high definition since I planned on keeping it for many years. It doesn't play standard def signals very well, and as it turns out, it can't play high-def either.
So what I'm left with is a $4000 box that will need to be replaced if I want to watch anything other than standard definition broadcasts or DVDs. In hindsight, I really should have just boug a nice Wega CRT for <$1000 and replace it when a new true standard is established.
From now on I'm going to be the troglodyte that waits for years to let the real standards emerge.
thanks, and
I'm in the same boat with you...It really was the lack of standards and education to the public that has caused the HD madness.
I'm going to guess there is enough HD enthusiasts out there to keep Sony and Toshiba fighting to be top dog for the next couple of years. If they both do fail it'll be an interesting future for HD.
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I'm glad I read this post.
I am close to purchasing an hdtv, but almost bought an older one (samsung hl-r6768w) because it was huge (67inches) and cheap ($2k). However, it seems it isn't true high-def or whatever.
Maybe one of you two can recommend something for me, in that price range ($1,500-2,500). I was thinking of picking up that 50 inch vizio plasma through costco.. anything you can tell me about those? i think they're only 740p though. Should I really get a 1020p? I read somewhere that that's useless because it doesn't seem like any cable provider or whatever can deliver that format.
also, I don't understand which imputs or whatever are ideal, how much they cost, where to get them, etc. Sorry, i'm a n00b, but pretty smart.. so I'm sure i'll understand once it's explained to me. THANKS.
I am close to purchasing an hdtv, but almost bought an older one (samsung hl-r6768w) because it was huge (67inches) and cheap ($2k). However, it seems it isn't true high-def or whatever.
Maybe one of you two can recommend something for me, in that price range ($1,500-2,500). I was thinking of picking up that 50 inch vizio plasma through costco.. anything you can tell me about those? i think they're only 740p though. Should I really get a 1020p? I read somewhere that that's useless because it doesn't seem like any cable provider or whatever can deliver that format.
also, I don't understand which imputs or whatever are ideal, how much they cost, where to get them, etc. Sorry, i'm a n00b, but pretty smart.. so I'm sure i'll understand once it's explained to me. THANKS.
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Originally Posted by the_Osk
I'm glad I read this post.
I am close to purchasing an hdtv, but almost bought an older one (samsung hl-r6768w) because it was huge (67inches) and cheap ($2k). However, it seems it isn't true high-def or whatever.
Maybe one of you two can recommend something for me, in that price range ($1,500-2,500). I was thinking of picking up that 50 inch vizio plasma through costco.. anything you can tell me about those? i think they're only 740p though. Should I really get a 1020p? I read somewhere that that's useless because it doesn't seem like any cable provider or whatever can deliver that format.
also, I don't understand which imputs or whatever are ideal, how much they cost, where to get them, etc. Sorry, i'm a n00b, but pretty smart.. so I'm sure i'll understand once it's explained to me. THANKS.
I am close to purchasing an hdtv, but almost bought an older one (samsung hl-r6768w) because it was huge (67inches) and cheap ($2k). However, it seems it isn't true high-def or whatever.
Maybe one of you two can recommend something for me, in that price range ($1,500-2,500). I was thinking of picking up that 50 inch vizio plasma through costco.. anything you can tell me about those? i think they're only 740p though. Should I really get a 1020p? I read somewhere that that's useless because it doesn't seem like any cable provider or whatever can deliver that format.
also, I don't understand which imputs or whatever are ideal, how much they cost, where to get them, etc. Sorry, i'm a n00b, but pretty smart.. so I'm sure i'll understand once it's explained to me. THANKS.
The two 1080p units I recommend would be:
JVC 1080p HDILA (LCoS technology) line
Sony SXRD (LCoS) 1080p series.
You can find a JVC HDILA 1080p 56" for $2500 or less,model number HD-56FH96. This years models are comming out VERY soon, so you might want wait. Either to get the latest and greatest or to get a deal on last years 1080p models (8 months old)
p.s.
2 of the major upgrades on this years models are:
1080P TV(s) will accept a 1080p signal
mutistage iris for the projector bulb for better blacks
Basically no 1080p TVs made to date will natively accept a 1080p signal (yet another confusing thing for consumers to deal with) There was one HP TV model that does accept a 1080p signal, but it's not supported officially.
HD-DVD and Blueray both support 1080p output out via HDMI port.
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Originally Posted by SiGGy
I'm sure there will be a way to rip the data off the HD-DVD or BR disc for making duplicates. It will probably just take some time before it's mainstream.
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Originally Posted by SiGGy
You want HDMI inputs on it.
The two 1080p units I recommend would be:
JVC 1080p HDILA (LCoS technology) line
Sony SXRD (LCoS) 1080p series.
You can find a JVC HDILA 1080p 56" for $2500 or less,model number HD-56FH96. This years models are comming out VERY soon, so you might want wait. Either to get the latest and greatest or to get a deal on last years 1080p models (8 months old)
p.s.
2 of the major upgrades on this years models are:
1080P TV(s) will accept a 1080p signal
mutistage iris for the projector bulb for better blacks
Basically no 1080p TVs made to date will natively accept a 1080p signal (yet another confusing thing for consumers to deal with) There was one HP TV model that does accept a 1080p signal, but it's not supported officially.
HD-DVD and Blueray both support 1080p output out via HDMI port.
The two 1080p units I recommend would be:
JVC 1080p HDILA (LCoS technology) line
Sony SXRD (LCoS) 1080p series.
You can find a JVC HDILA 1080p 56" for $2500 or less,model number HD-56FH96. This years models are comming out VERY soon, so you might want wait. Either to get the latest and greatest or to get a deal on last years 1080p models (8 months old)
p.s.
2 of the major upgrades on this years models are:
1080P TV(s) will accept a 1080p signal
mutistage iris for the projector bulb for better blacks
Basically no 1080p TVs made to date will natively accept a 1080p signal (yet another confusing thing for consumers to deal with) There was one HP TV model that does accept a 1080p signal, but it's not supported officially.
HD-DVD and Blueray both support 1080p output out via HDMI port.
when do you think these 'new models' and 'deals' will happen? I'm a huge football fan, so I'd like to get a tv soon.. but if I can wait only a month or two and save big (or get a superior item), then maybe I'll do that.
also, what do HDMI look like? does it look like usb kind of? And should I get a new dvd player with HDMI.. does the xbox360 have this? ANd what about cable... will i need a certain cable box? (i have directTV).. ahh, it's just SO much info.. I've been reading up on this crap for the past week at work, hours on end.. thanks for clarifying!
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Originally Posted by the_Osk
thanks for the advice. I checked out those sony's, and they didn't impress me as much as some of the panasonic and samsung models.. but we'll see.
when do you think these 'new models' and 'deals' will happen? I'm a huge football fan, so I'd like to get a tv soon.. but if I can wait only a month or two and save big (or get a superior item), then maybe I'll do that.
also, what do HDMI look like? does it look like usb kind of? And should I get a new dvd player with HDMI.. does the xbox360 have this? ANd what about cable... will i need a certain cable box? (i have directTV).. ahh, it's just SO much info.. I've been reading up on this crap for the past week at work, hours on end.. thanks for clarifying!
when do you think these 'new models' and 'deals' will happen? I'm a huge football fan, so I'd like to get a tv soon.. but if I can wait only a month or two and save big (or get a superior item), then maybe I'll do that.
also, what do HDMI look like? does it look like usb kind of? And should I get a new dvd player with HDMI.. does the xbox360 have this? ANd what about cable... will i need a certain cable box? (i have directTV).. ahh, it's just SO much info.. I've been reading up on this crap for the past week at work, hours on end.. thanks for clarifying!
Unless you have all of the TVs next to one another and your sure of all of the models numbers it's VERY hard to compare. And you have to use the same video source for all of them...
What impressed you? It's SO easy for a store to setup a TV to make it look brighter or better than another model. It may sound stupid, but bring your own DVD player or request them to hook one up with same cables to the TV(s) your interested in. Bring your own DVDs, ones your intimately famailar with. Play the same scenes on all of the TVs. Although in todays day Imight request a HD-DVD player connected via HDMI and I'd request a HD-DVD I was famaliar with. Don't be afraid to try and adjust the TV to your liking as well... don't let them run the show.
The 1080p DLP TVs use some wierd techniques to get a 1080p picture. They call it "wobulation". I'd stay away from it... not to mention they still use a colorwheel. Neither the JVC or Sony LCoS TVs do. And they have a true 1080p resolution without resorting to any tricks like the DLPs do.
HDMI kinda looks like a USB connector.
No, don't bother getting a new DVD player.
And XBOX 360 will work fine with the TV.
Your Directv should work fine over component or DVI. There are DVI-HDMI adapters. Saying you have an older DirecTV box.
p.s.
There is a A/V forum on here under the "Home And Garden" section. You should start a post in there. This is way off-topic now.
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Great thread and great information from Siggy.
I've been following BR & HD-DVD on many of the forums lately, but Siggy, I wanted to make a commpent one statement:
Theoretically, Blu-Ray has a higher storage capacity 25gb on a single layer and 50gb for dual-layer versus 15gb single / 30gb dual for HD-DVD.
The issue today is that the HD-DVD releases are on dual layer (30gb) while Sony has not been able to produce dual layer Blu-Ray discs at acceptible yields for movie production. All Blu-ray releases are 25gb, and the combination of less disc space and Mpeg-2 has hurt the early movie releases as the quality is inferior to VC-1 HD-DVD titles and the movies offer less special features.
I've been following BR & HD-DVD on many of the forums lately, but Siggy, I wanted to make a commpent one statement:
Sonys Blue-Ray is sub-par to HD-DVD IMO. All of their releases thus far are using MPEG-2. Their discs do have more storage than HD-DVD but that storage space is rendered useless because they are encoding the video via MPEG-2. HD-DVD can fit more video on a smaller disc because of the newer codec it's using. And to boot the codec (H.264) they are using has better video quality. And a final hammering is it's cheaper to produce a HD-DVD than it is a BR disc. And the HD-DVD players are 1/2 the price.
The issue today is that the HD-DVD releases are on dual layer (30gb) while Sony has not been able to produce dual layer Blu-Ray discs at acceptible yields for movie production. All Blu-ray releases are 25gb, and the combination of less disc space and Mpeg-2 has hurt the early movie releases as the quality is inferior to VC-1 HD-DVD titles and the movies offer less special features.
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Originally Posted by cusdaddy
Great thread and great information from Siggy.
I've been following BR & HD-DVD on many of the forums lately, but Siggy, I wanted to make a commpent one statement:
Theoretically, Blu-Ray has a higher storage capacity 25gb on a single layer and 50gb for dual-layer versus 15gb single / 30gb dual for HD-DVD.
The issue today is that the HD-DVD releases are on dual layer (30gb) while Sony has not been able to produce dual layer Blu-Ray discs at acceptible yields for movie production. All Blu-ray releases are 25gb, and the combination of less disc space and Mpeg-2 has hurt the early movie releases as the quality is inferior to VC-1 HD-DVD titles and the movies offer less special features.
I've been following BR & HD-DVD on many of the forums lately, but Siggy, I wanted to make a commpent one statement:
Theoretically, Blu-Ray has a higher storage capacity 25gb on a single layer and 50gb for dual-layer versus 15gb single / 30gb dual for HD-DVD.
The issue today is that the HD-DVD releases are on dual layer (30gb) while Sony has not been able to produce dual layer Blu-Ray discs at acceptible yields for movie production. All Blu-ray releases are 25gb, and the combination of less disc space and Mpeg-2 has hurt the early movie releases as the quality is inferior to VC-1 HD-DVD titles and the movies offer less special features.
IMO, unless Sony wakes up soon HD-DVD has already won in the quality department. Hopefully this is one time "quanity over quality" will not win in the United States. I could care less if my disc holds 30GB or 50GB of data, I want the best quality HD available. Hopefully Americans will be eduacted enough to see that the smaller capacity disc (HD-DVD) with the better video compression (H.264) has some major quality advantages over the larger BlueRay disc /w the outdated MPEG-2 compression codec.
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Will it or won't it? According to statements made by a Microsoft official at TechEd 2006 in Sydney, the 32-bit version of the company's upcoming Windows Vista OS will not support protected high-definition content, including HD DVD and Blu-ray movies. Not now, not ever.
But, as news of the announcement spread across the Internet, Microsoft was quick to clarify senior program manager Steve Riley's statements. He was, they say, essentially wrong in saying that protected video playback will require special security features that won't be part of Vista until the 64-bit release.
Whether or not it will actually happen is up to the third-party playback software makers and the content owners themselves. There will be no native Blu-ray or HD DVD support in Windows Vista.
Of course, it's hard to imagine any of the major studios jumping at the chance to release HD content for a platform that, like Vista 32-bit, won't be able to protect it. Since 32-bit processors still make up the vast majority of the market, it will be some time before the 64-bit version of Windows Vista -- and the security for Blu-ray and HD DVD that will come with it -- is released.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20060825/...JlYmhvBHNlYwM- (full article)
But, as news of the announcement spread across the Internet, Microsoft was quick to clarify senior program manager Steve Riley's statements. He was, they say, essentially wrong in saying that protected video playback will require special security features that won't be part of Vista until the 64-bit release.
Whether or not it will actually happen is up to the third-party playback software makers and the content owners themselves. There will be no native Blu-ray or HD DVD support in Windows Vista.
Of course, it's hard to imagine any of the major studios jumping at the chance to release HD content for a platform that, like Vista 32-bit, won't be able to protect it. Since 32-bit processors still make up the vast majority of the market, it will be some time before the 64-bit version of Windows Vista -- and the security for Blu-ray and HD DVD that will come with it -- is released.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20060825/...JlYmhvBHNlYwM- (full article)
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