Which would you prefer and why? BTW: the Ipod now has a FM transmitter accessory that your can purchase.

Samsung Napster
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Digi...p_YP_910GS.htm

Ipod
http://www.apple.com/ipod/index.html

iriver
http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iHP-120.asp

 

www.ipodlounge.com

the best, the original, and the most accessories.

nuf said.l

 

Stop with the lame ass IPOD...stick with what is hot everywhere in the WORLD except the US. MD's just rock..

 

iPod for sure.

 

Archos Jukebox.

Opensource
so there is open development for the firmware and games.

Improves the useability 10 fold.

 

minidisk? there is a reason we don't use that here, it sucks. why would you use that over a straight up hard drive?

get a dell jukebox. the 15mb is $50 cheaper than the 10mb ipod, the battery lasts twice as long, and it is .wmv compatible.




or that archos is good too, but it is huge and heavy. you can't just slip it in your pocket. I got this Dell, its great. ipods are :ghey:

 

iPod.

No question.

 

The Rio Karma



Its small, cheaper than the 20 GB iPod, twice the battery life of the iPod, USB 1.0, 2.0 AND ethernet transfer ability, more filesupport, better software, sounds great, and its the most customizable. Rated the best alternative to the iPod by Rolling Stone, and editor's choice from Cnet.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4505-6490_7-30474134.html

I have one, and trust me, you won't be disapointed

 

ipod for now, sony md is super :ghey:

i am very interested to see the new smaller ipod because even though the neg gen ipods are pretty small, that is the one thing i would change first

ps. who cares about wma ??? microsoft pwnes everything else (which is why there stock is still rated buy for like the last 20 years)

 

what does that mean?




wma has better audio quality while taking up less space. I have 40 full albums in wma on my dell jukebox, and I am only using 18% of the space (on the 15gb)

I'm not sure but I think mp3 would take up more room than that.

 

ipod comes in color now (pink, green, etc...) but w/ a small capacity for songs though. saw it in the washington post this past weekend.

 

Here it is in spinning ghey pink....its called the ipod mini

http://www.apple.com/hardware/galler...k_jan2004.html

 

i mean that mp3 is more established, and the sound quality is bullshit (no offense), you can set whatever sound quality you want with mp3 by the bitrate even on windows media player

there is no way you can tell the difference if the bitrate on mp3 is set to over 128

as for size you might be correct, i dont know, but then again its so small and hard drives are so cheap it just doesnt really matter

if you can fit one (or five) extra album(s) or so using wma does that make it better in 10 gigs, its so much music already its ridiculous, i haven't even halfway filled up my 15gig and i don't ever get through all of the music before i change it

 

md blows dude

Love my ipod..Its the easiest thing to use - its small enough and just good quality

 

the only reason i want it smaller is to run with, i have the armband and the waist-clip and all that stuff and it just won't stay put and having to hold it sucks

 

Rio Karma for sure

anyone who knocks the MD doesn't know what they are talking about. Sure it has its short comings (i.e. transferring to it is a bitch) but it was THE BEST in terms of sound quality with a signal to noise ratio of 106db, and on ONE AAA battery has something like 80 hours of battery life

 

yeah but compatability and cost suck, only 5 hours on a disc

did i mention atrac3 is the worst format to deal with ever, its compatible with nothing, and half of your mp3's won't convert whether they are real or not, it just makes it hell to deal with another file extension and conversion program that are standalone

the battery life is awesome, but thats 1/5 of the overall

 

I agree that MD was great 5 years ago, I'd rather have an MD than a CD. But now, I can't see any reason to use an MD with the variety of solid state players.

Yes, music quality is very good with MD...but most mp3 are close. The Dell signal/noise is 96db I believe...not fantastic but pretty damn good. And mp3 players have rechargeable batteries...the Dell goes almost 20 hours on a charge.

Its too bad that MD's didn't take the place of CD's, so you could just buy them at the store. That would have been better than crappy CD's.

 

I was just reading cnet.com user reviews of mp3 players and I got one thing from them:

PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS

Don't believe ANYTHING that people post on there. No one has any idea what they are talking about. They just bitch to bitch...for example...

In the Dell reviews everyone bitches about having to use music match to load songs. You don't have to use music match at all! I use windows media player, but you can use whatever you want. Dell packages a music match cd with it, and gives instructions for that, but any moron can figure out how to use another program to do the same thing.

People also bitch that the Dell doesn't work as an external hard drive. Actually, yes it does. You can just drag and drop right onto it.

Half the reviews are posted before the release date of the unit.

I'm no die hard Dell fan or anything, I just like Dell stuff because its cheap. Just pisses me off these people that knock products they either have never tried, or just don't know how to use.

 

you've got to be kidding, right? Have you even listened with headphones? 128 may be fine....if you're 67 years old. 128 takes out too much in compression....the music just doenst sound full....i guess its all opinion though

And the ipod mini has a shitty storage/cost ratio

about the MDs though....i feel like the price hasnt gone down in years

anyways, with the karma, you can hook it up to ethernet and treat it as a computer on the network. probably useless, but still a cool feature

 

over 128 =156,192

if you don't think 156 or 192 sounds like a cd then either im really old and can't hear, or you never heard an mp3 at 64 or 96, 128 sounds fine till you crank it, and 196 sounds crystal clear to me

 

any word on when the 60gb ipod will be on the market?

 

would you really use 60 gigs??? i mean seriously i know its gonna get bigger but jeez...thats like 700 albums

 

current mp3 collection is ~50 gigs, and it can only get larger.

Dont want to get 40 if I've already outgrown it, and I don't like the 60 gb Creative Labs NOMAD.

 

wow, and you really carry the whole thing with you all the time... i probably have about the same amount, but i dont listen to half of it unless i have a crazing to, i always reformat and then put on about 5 gigs at a time, just too many choices

 

This is the part I'd rather not have to deal with.

 

the min. i rip my albums at is 192 mp3

 

what do you use to rip it at over 192?

 

Easy CD-DA Extractor

http://www.poikosoft.com/

but now i rip lots of the stuff in Ogg Vorbis....another more efficient format. lower quality ogg=higher quality mp3, so it saves space

 

the variable bit-rate algorithm used by razor lame is very nice as well.

 

lame is by far the best mp3 ripper driver (codec? i dont know what to call it), which is what easy cd-da uses. cd-da extractor supports practically every format (the one that viperrepiv linked to) so thats why i use it and reccomend it. if your an advanced user, EAC is the best.

03typeS6spd, good point about the compatability of sony's proprietary sound format which makes everything a bitch to record. True, its not as good as a mp3 player, but it would have been a kickass replacement for cd, your right

ogg vorbis = the future

and depending on your speakers, you might not be able to tell anything over 128 lame mp3, but if you have a decent set of speakers, or headphones, you can really tell

 

Can anyone tell me....... with the Samsung Napster do you have to use the Napster service to put mp3's on it or can you just click-drag mp3's that you allready have on your hard drive? I know for a fact that it doesnt matter with the rest of the mp3 players in the list but I've heard some conflicting information reguarding if you can put your non-legit mp3s on the Napster mp3 player.

 

You guys seem to overlook the benfits of MD...

ATRAC3 at 132kbps is just better than mp3 at 192kbps. yes, it's proprietary.it's for copy/bootlegging protection.

MP3 is here to stay, no doubt. Solid state players are the shit.no moving parts...but you forget that the IPOD is a freakin' 2.5" HDD. Put that near a magnet source, later dude...drop it and you'll need another unit. you need to almost baby the sucker!

Yes, you can about 20GB of storage space for music. But can you play all of them and when are you realistically going to need over 40GB, 20GB, even 10GB worth of music? Your IPOd would run out of juice before you get thru song #30.

Drop your IPOd and it's goodbye. Drop an MD, it still works flawlessly. Put a huge magnet next to it, data is still there. Put in one AAA battery in the player unit, enjoy over 80hours of music. MD discs are DUST PROOF, very very durable and you comes in protective case small enough to store anywhere. It's also ultimately the cool factor. Magnetic-optical is really cool technology. Sound is very very impressive too. I haven't even begun to mention true digital live music/voice recording capability. Yes, it sucks you can't upload to the PC but can your IPOD record?

I'm not even going to compare MD's to Flash memory type players because you can't. Different technologies. But as for a comparison to the IPOD, why not?

IPODs are just not as sophisticated, cool, durable, and widely used as MDs period. Especially with HI-MD's coming out, I for one out of millions is very happy with the medium. I'd never go with an IPOD...just not as durable and battery blows. You can have many uses with an MD recorder. It's a total TAPE/CD replacement even though the USA hasn't accepted it but then again, USA blows shit cause we are still using b&w cell phones and rave about GPRS when the rest of the world is on 2.5mbps streaming video broadband from their cell phones! (that's another story).

MD all the way!

 

Ipods last a good 8-10 hours. And you can buy a battery reserve from blekin i think for another 10 if its big a deal, but realistically no one is going to use it for such a long period of time in one sitting. I've been on all day plane trips and never had a problem. People who bitch are just lazy about recharging.

Ive dropped my ipod, about 4 ft on to asphalt and watch it do 3 bounces, no dings or dents and it works perfectly well, no probs, this was over a year ago.

Ipods are pretty fucking sophisticated, cool, durable and has a shitload of accesories and secondary uses.

You want to prefer MD and use it, fine, be happy with it, nothing wrong with MD.

But you dont know shit about ipods.

 

4 ft asphalt and 3 bounces with no dings or dents? And it works perfectly? haha

sophisticated? Yes, they are real sophisticated like the Xbox.

And you are right, I don't know shit about ipods...all I know is that they are hard drives with memory and a battery. You copy mp3s to the unit and you play it as if you were to use winamp on a pc with a hdd minus the 25 minute skip protection.

uh huh. My arguments were to give the people who bitch about MD a fair chance. Obviously IPOD is favored in the US because you can easily "download" your favorite pirated music.

 

I guess these pictures show how sophisticated an IPOD is vs. MD technology/design...

What a joke the IPOD looks just compared to MD!



VS.

















There's just way too many other designs to list out...you get the picture. As for as sophistication of the IPOD, it's sad how you believe it's actually good looking and form/design is great...

 

The Dell mp3 player lasts 20 hours on a charge. At 5 minutes per song, thats 240 songs. I can't imagine ever having a problem running out of juice. I use mine all the time and only charge it about once a week. Beats buying batteries.

Whats so great about being DUST PROOF? Any mp3 player is dust proof.

I don't know about you, but I don't put my mp3 player on top of giant magnets all that often. I'm not too worried about it.

Also I don't know why you think mp3 players are so breakable, and that you need to 'baby it'. Every mp3 player I have used has been extremely sturdy. I'm pretty sure you could drop just about any of them and they would be just fine.

I bet Sony could make a record player thats pretty fancy too. It doesn't change the fact that MD is outdated. They add all that fancy crap ^^ that you showed us to keep people like you buying it.

When I bought my mp3 player, I don't think I ever gave even 2 seconds thought about the form/design or how cool looking it was. Quite frankly I couldn't give a shit about that.

Thats just me though.

 

yeah, becuase I walk in and out of huge magnetic fields all day......hey, if you work near a particle accelerator, buy an MD. Otherwise, get a HD player.

Its all about the options

that's why you get a Karma....it has a longer battery life


is that really so bad??


but whatever....it all comes down to a pro and con battle in the end, and that's all opinion. The MD does have some redeeming qualities, like the cool design of many of them. Both the iPod and MDs are flawed in their own ways....thats why you get a Rio Karma...okok jk, i'm a little biased. HD and MD players all have their ups and downs, and they fit different usage styles

 

The above statements are addressed to IPOD blinded fools that believe it is much more sophisticated and superior to MD.

As for MP3 players (you guys mean solid state players), I have no gripe...hands down, they are the replacement for MD and IPOD. I favor those the most. That's why I stated that it's not to be compared to flash memory type players. But unfortunately, you are still limited to memory costs upgrade options for flash memory players. With MD, even the discs are still inexpensive and yet provides you with many hours of music.

#1 reason to get MD:
Sound quality
#2 reason:
Battery life
#3 reason:
quality

I don't want to stir up opinionated shit regarding A vs. B vs. C.. (I have already)...just bs'ng about daily technology shit.

No offense to ya'll. All the technology nowadays is wonderful and way way way better than it was years ago!

 

you know what i say to the MD?

:bukkake: