Internet Explorer 9: GPU accelerated HTML 5 browser
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What I am saying is that you have yet to convince me.
It's like at a car dealership, if I walk in and the sales guy tries to sell me on the L.A.T.C.H. system for child seats, it's completely worthless. It's not a feature I care at all about. If the carpeting is designed to hide mud, I don't care. I live in the desert.
It's not that your arguments are invalid, it's just that right now, they are irrelevant.
You are selling me a home security system that includes sharks with laser. I live in a gated community with security guards, so I don't care.
You are selling me a 2160P TV, but I don't have or foresee in the near future having any content beyond 1080P.
It's like at a car dealership, if I walk in and the sales guy tries to sell me on the L.A.T.C.H. system for child seats, it's completely worthless. It's not a feature I care at all about. If the carpeting is designed to hide mud, I don't care. I live in the desert.
It's not that your arguments are invalid, it's just that right now, they are irrelevant.
You are selling me a home security system that includes sharks with laser. I live in a gated community with security guards, so I don't care.
You are selling me a 2160P TV, but I don't have or foresee in the near future having any content beyond 1080P.
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Let me elaborate some more on the pinned feature that you just glazed over as a ripoff of some extension you had to download and install in firefox. It allows websites to do icon notifications or badges.
So if you had gmail website pinned to the taskbar it could display a notification everytime you got an email.
Also it supports playback control of websites like pandora, so right from the taskbar you can play, pause, skip etc. the music playing from a website. This is the same feature that's in Windows 7 for native apps like WMP, iTunes, etc now IE9 is enabling this capabilities for web apps.
Other features are the Add-on Performance Advisor. If an add-on is slowing down IE9 from starting it will let you know so you can disable it if you don't need it.
Also the UI is the most minimalist UI out there, it takes up even less horizontal real estate than Chrome!
here's the jump list feature close up, same feature in windows 7 but now for websites but firefox has had all this for years....
So if you had gmail website pinned to the taskbar it could display a notification everytime you got an email.
Also it supports playback control of websites like pandora, so right from the taskbar you can play, pause, skip etc. the music playing from a website. This is the same feature that's in Windows 7 for native apps like WMP, iTunes, etc now IE9 is enabling this capabilities for web apps.
Other features are the Add-on Performance Advisor. If an add-on is slowing down IE9 from starting it will let you know so you can disable it if you don't need it.
Also the UI is the most minimalist UI out there, it takes up even less horizontal real estate than Chrome!
here's the jump list feature close up, same feature in windows 7 but now for websites but firefox has had all this for years....
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:meh:
I have Google Desktop sidebar with a GMail notifier...
Controlling Pandora, etc from the taskbar is "neat", but if I have to move the mouse somewhere and point and click, why not just open the darn page (or miniPandora)?
As far as disabling slow plugins, thank the Lord I am going to reclaim those 0.35 seconds! EVERY TIME I open the browser no less!
I am not saying these aren't neat things, but come on, it's nothing terribly amazing here...
I have Google Desktop sidebar with a GMail notifier...
Controlling Pandora, etc from the taskbar is "neat", but if I have to move the mouse somewhere and point and click, why not just open the darn page (or miniPandora)?
As far as disabling slow plugins, thank the Lord I am going to reclaim those 0.35 seconds! EVERY TIME I open the browser no less!
I am not saying these aren't neat things, but come on, it's nothing terribly amazing here...
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I like the speed of Chrome and the plug ins that I have. It will take a lot to bring me back to IE again. I use it work and it's so God awful. However I'm posting here just to see if there's anything worthwhile when the full version is available since I have Windows 7.
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I'm gonna try out 9 beta.
Ohh and stogie, get the pandora gadget, then you dont need to open browser, or anything since its right there on your desktop.
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Every time I open it up, it says internet explorer has stopped working lol.
Soo umm how do I uninstall this? Its not in the uninstall programs from the control panel. I tried reinstalling it and it won't do that because it says I have it installed. Do I have to go find this in the drive and just delete it?
Soo umm how do I uninstall this? Its not in the uninstall programs from the control panel. I tried reinstalling it and it won't do that because it says I have it installed. Do I have to go find this in the drive and just delete it?
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Every time I open it up, it says internet explorer has stopped working lol.
Soo umm how do I uninstall this? Its not in the uninstall programs from the control panel. I tried reinstalling it and it won't do that because it says I have it installed. Do I have to go find this in the drive and just delete it?
Soo umm how do I uninstall this? Its not in the uninstall programs from the control panel. I tried reinstalling it and it won't do that because it says I have it installed. Do I have to go find this in the drive and just delete it?
Try opening "Internet Explorer 9 (no add-ons)" see if that works. do a search for it you'll see it
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So I've been using the beta for a little bit now and like everyone else that's used it I'm very happy with it! It's a great browser. It has most of the features that makes Chrome great and more. I think once this one goes final I will stop installing Chrome on Vista/7 PCs and start installing IE9 plus MSE. Seems like it will be a great combo.
I myself will still use Chrome mostly cause the features Chrome has that IE9 doesn't have most normal people don't need.
I'm not installing this on anyone's PCs now cause it's still got some bugs (it is still a beta) but I expect once it gets cleaned up it's going to be a great browser for normal people.
I myself will still use Chrome mostly cause the features Chrome has that IE9 doesn't have most normal people don't need.
I'm not installing this on anyone's PCs now cause it's still got some bugs (it is still a beta) but I expect once it gets cleaned up it's going to be a great browser for normal people.
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its still buggy for me. Sometimes when I close the program it doesn't actually close. The window will literally close, and then when I try to open up any other program it won't open. Then I go to task manager and see that IE is still running in the background, but its under processes and not applications. Anyway as soon as I end process on it, all the windows I tried opening will open right away
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It's a beta it's supposed to have bugs like that. You have to learn not to judge a program by the bugs it has in pre release stage. Those go away and the performance stays or gets even better.
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No "progress" bar when a page is loading, couldn't even find a setting in Internet Options to make it show.
Favorites list on the right (AKA change for the sake of change).
One address bar space for addresses and searches, and very often when I want a search I get a single site, forcing me to Google's home page when it shouldn't be necessary.
Favorites list on the right (AKA change for the sake of change).
One address bar space for addresses and searches, and very often when I want a search I get a single site, forcing me to Google's home page when it shouldn't be necessary.
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No "progress" bar when a page is loading, couldn't even find a setting in Internet Options to make it show.
Favorites list on the right (AKA change for the sake of change).
One address bar space for addresses and searches, and very often when I want a search I get a single site, forcing me to Google's home page when it shouldn't be necessary.
Favorites list on the right (AKA change for the sake of change).
One address bar space for addresses and searches, and very often when I want a search I get a single site, forcing me to Google's home page when it shouldn't be necessary.
Favorites are on the right to group them with the other two icons. It's part of the minimal UI so that the browser gets out of the way allowing you to focus on the content of the page.
No clue what you're talking about the search issue. It's the same as chrome. Plus you've been able to search from ie and ff address bars for as long as I can remember, even IE6 could
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Ohh I know that. I'm just not gonna use it much in beta form. When the release comes out, or an update in the beta I'll check it out for sure.
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Microsoft Will Add a “Do Not Track” Tool to Internet Explorer, but It’s Complicated
Dec. 8 2010 - 12:12 pm | 1,614 views | 0 recommendations | 0 comments
By KASHMIR HILL
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Under pressure from the Federal Trade Commission, Microsoft is rolling out a version of “Do Not Track” in the new version of Internet Explorer — allowing Web surfers more control over which third parties gather information about them and serve them content. The feature was previously developed for Internet Explorer 8 but was killed under pressure from the advertising industry.
The now-revisited “Tracking Protection” will be an opt-in feature in Internet Explorer 9, and will allow users to develop lists of sites blocked from collecting information or running scripts on their browsers, and lists of those given permission to do so. This is almost like an RSS feeder for the stuff running in the background of the websites you visit.
Most users are unlikely to start creating these lists on their own, though… …in part, because (1) only the nerdiest of Web surfers actually plays with their browser settings and (2) most are simply unaware of which third parties are gathering data about them and serving up content and ads. Thus, this is an opportunity for consumer groups to create lists of acceptable and unacceptable sites and encourage Web surfers to subscribe to them. I imagine ad networks will be lobbying list-creators not to automatically add advertisers to these lists, as well as creating their own offerings. And individual sites can make lists as well.
“Any site can make available a Tracking Protection List that creates exceptions (via “OK to Call” items) for external content that provides the full experience of the site. This TPL provides transparency to the consumer about the additional sites he will visit and share information with,” according to the Internet Explorer blog.
This is part of an attempt by the Internet industry to prevent Congress from laying down some legislation on them. The FTC has made it clear that more needs to be done on the Internet to give Web surfers control over their own data and privacy, but the advertising industry has been vocally opposed to the idea, saying that it could shut down the billions-dollar online advertising industry.
“The recent chest-pounding and hair-rending that we’ve seen from certain industry players indicates that some are not recognizing the need for a change,” said FTC Commissioner Julie Brill on Tuesday at an IAPP conference in Washington, D.C. “If the browser vendors and advertisers do not come up with a robust framework, I for one will endorse Congress to pass Do Not Track legislation.”
Microsoft is doing its part to get out in front of legislation on this. Google’s Chrome, Mozilla’s Firefox, and Apple’s Safari will certainly be following its lead soon. Of course, since “Do Not Track” will most likely be opt-in features for all the browsers, its efficacy depends on people caring enough about their privacy to make the effort and spend the time to opt-in. In addition to depending on people to download the latest versions of these browsers. So yeah, good luck with that.
Here’s Microsoft’s explanation of what this is and how it will work, from its blog:
Today, consumers share information with more websites than the ones they see in the address bar in their browser. This is inherent in the design of the web and simply how the web works, and it has potentially unintended consequences. As consumers visit one site, many other sites receive information about their activities (you can read more details here). This situation results from how modern websites are built; typically a website today might bring together content from many other websites, leaving the impression that the website appears to be its own entity. When the browser calls any other website to request anything (an image, a cookie, HTML, a script that can execute), the browser explicitly provides information in order to get information. By limiting data requests to these sites, it is possible to limit the data available to these sites for collection and tracking.
A Tracking Protection List (TPL) contains web addresses (like msdn.com) that the browser will visit (or “call”) only if the consumer visits them directly by clicking on a link or typing their address. By limiting the calls to these websites and resources from other web pages, the TPL limits the information these other sites can collect.
Microsoft Will Add a “Do Not Track” Tool to Internet Explorer, but It’s Complicated
Dec. 8 2010 - 12:12 pm | 1,614 views | 0 recommendations | 0 comments
By KASHMIR HILL
Internet Explorer Mobile Logo
Image via Wikipedia
Under pressure from the Federal Trade Commission, Microsoft is rolling out a version of “Do Not Track” in the new version of Internet Explorer — allowing Web surfers more control over which third parties gather information about them and serve them content. The feature was previously developed for Internet Explorer 8 but was killed under pressure from the advertising industry.
The now-revisited “Tracking Protection” will be an opt-in feature in Internet Explorer 9, and will allow users to develop lists of sites blocked from collecting information or running scripts on their browsers, and lists of those given permission to do so. This is almost like an RSS feeder for the stuff running in the background of the websites you visit.
Most users are unlikely to start creating these lists on their own, though… …in part, because (1) only the nerdiest of Web surfers actually plays with their browser settings and (2) most are simply unaware of which third parties are gathering data about them and serving up content and ads. Thus, this is an opportunity for consumer groups to create lists of acceptable and unacceptable sites and encourage Web surfers to subscribe to them. I imagine ad networks will be lobbying list-creators not to automatically add advertisers to these lists, as well as creating their own offerings. And individual sites can make lists as well.
“Any site can make available a Tracking Protection List that creates exceptions (via “OK to Call” items) for external content that provides the full experience of the site. This TPL provides transparency to the consumer about the additional sites he will visit and share information with,” according to the Internet Explorer blog.
This is part of an attempt by the Internet industry to prevent Congress from laying down some legislation on them. The FTC has made it clear that more needs to be done on the Internet to give Web surfers control over their own data and privacy, but the advertising industry has been vocally opposed to the idea, saying that it could shut down the billions-dollar online advertising industry.
“The recent chest-pounding and hair-rending that we’ve seen from certain industry players indicates that some are not recognizing the need for a change,” said FTC Commissioner Julie Brill on Tuesday at an IAPP conference in Washington, D.C. “If the browser vendors and advertisers do not come up with a robust framework, I for one will endorse Congress to pass Do Not Track legislation.”
Microsoft is doing its part to get out in front of legislation on this. Google’s Chrome, Mozilla’s Firefox, and Apple’s Safari will certainly be following its lead soon. Of course, since “Do Not Track” will most likely be opt-in features for all the browsers, its efficacy depends on people caring enough about their privacy to make the effort and spend the time to opt-in. In addition to depending on people to download the latest versions of these browsers. So yeah, good luck with that.
Here’s Microsoft’s explanation of what this is and how it will work, from its blog:
Today, consumers share information with more websites than the ones they see in the address bar in their browser. This is inherent in the design of the web and simply how the web works, and it has potentially unintended consequences. As consumers visit one site, many other sites receive information about their activities (you can read more details here). This situation results from how modern websites are built; typically a website today might bring together content from many other websites, leaving the impression that the website appears to be its own entity. When the browser calls any other website to request anything (an image, a cookie, HTML, a script that can execute), the browser explicitly provides information in order to get information. By limiting data requests to these sites, it is possible to limit the data available to these sites for collection and tracking.
A Tracking Protection List (TPL) contains web addresses (like msdn.com) that the browser will visit (or “call”) only if the consumer visits them directly by clicking on a link or typing their address. By limiting the calls to these websites and resources from other web pages, the TPL limits the information these other sites can collect.
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Sanest Florida Man
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Oooo, I like this last part!
A Tracking Protection List (TPL) contains web addresses (like msdn.com) that the browser will visit (or “call”) only if the consumer visits them directly by clicking on a link or typing their address. By limiting the calls to these websites and resources from other web pages, the TPL limits the information these other sites can collect.
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IE9 Release Candidate is out! I'm installing it now. It's supposed to be teh fastest browser evar!11!11!!1!1!
It also has the new tracking protection I talked about above, though they've tweaked it so that IE can figure out which cookies are tracking you and block them automatically.
It also has Active X Filtering which disables activex on all websites and then allows you to enable them one by one on certain sites.
You can download it here
http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Default.html
It also has the new tracking protection I talked about above, though they've tweaked it so that IE can figure out which cookies are tracking you and block them automatically.
It also has Active X Filtering which disables activex on all websites and then allows you to enable them one by one on certain sites.
You can download it here
http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Default.html
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I guess I'll put this here. Adobe released flash 10.2 yesterday and has support for IE9 hardware acceleration in flash for graphics rendering.
Also it supports doing full screen with multi-monitors! meaning you can full screen flash video on one monitor and interact with another program on the other monitor while video stays full screen! I know, amazing!
www.adobe.com
Also it supports doing full screen with multi-monitors! meaning you can full screen flash video on one monitor and interact with another program on the other monitor while video stays full screen! I know, amazing!
www.adobe.com
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uhhhhh.....holy shit IE9 is fast!!! I just installed the RC and ran the sunspider java benchmark and IE9 RC was 37% faster than Chrome 10!
I actually noticed a speed increase when started using IE9 compared to Chrome 10!
Chrome 10 is the from column and IE9RC is the To column
The final build of IE9 will be out on monday, if you're already using the RC build you can upgrade to the final build without having to uninstall and reinstall
I actually noticed a speed increase when started using IE9 compared to Chrome 10!
Chrome 10 is the from column and IE9RC is the To column
The final build of IE9 will be out on monday, if you're already using the RC build you can upgrade to the final build without having to uninstall and reinstall
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Well the hack that the guy used to Pwn IE8 in the Pwn2Own contest last week was already closed in IE9.
It's got a builtin feature similar to no-script in FF and has a built-in ad blocker as well.
It's got a builtin feature similar to no-script in FF and has a built-in ad blocker as well.
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The update is live now you can down load it here
Win 7 x86
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...s7-x86-enu.exe
Win 7 x64
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...s7-x64-enu.exe
Vista x86
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...ta-x86-enu.exe
Vista x64
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...ta-x64-enu.exe
Win 7 x86
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...s7-x86-enu.exe
Win 7 x64
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...s7-x64-enu.exe
Vista x86
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...ta-x86-enu.exe
Vista x64
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...ta-x64-enu.exe
