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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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How safe is XP backup

After some recent computer issues I have decided that I want to start using a backup utility to an external HD. I know I should have been doing this long ago but I didn't.

My question is if I use the XP backup utility how safe is the file it creates?. Would I be better to manually copy the files I want to the external HD? Im just scared of losing my pictures
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Well, XP Backup won't give you swine flu or herpes so I guess it's pretty safe, but check out Cobian Backup for a good, easy to use solution. It's also free for home use.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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thanks stogie
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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If you're talking about ntbackup.exe that comes with XP Pro, it's a solid backup program. The problem with it is that it's very much oriented toward IT-type folks compared to the alternatives that are available today for personal use. If you're comfortable dealing with things like full backups vs. differentials vs. incrementals and don't mind keeping track of backup sets and media sets, then have at it with ntbackup. Otherwise, you'll probably want to go with something else like Stogie's suggestion.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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My wife has one and I have one. Love 'um. I messed with xp backup I while back. But this is just so damn easy to use.

http://www.clickfree.com/
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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yeah im talking about ntbackup.exe and actually it is on my xp home disk. I have used it tonight and the thing I didn't trust is that I can't "see" the files. I just see a backup file and I wasn't feeling great about trusting that my files are in it.

I might try one of the other programs listed here

Thanks
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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Well, that is really the way most backup programs work.

If you want to test out a backup program, create a new folder, copy of bunch of stuff you have elsewhere to the folder, create a backup of just the folder using a tool of your choice, delete the folder, and then do a restore of the backup using your software.

What you are describing is more of a shadow copy.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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Not surprisingly, I created a script to do the backups on my server. It keeps a rolling 7 day backup of the whole server. That's 7 backup files.

If interested, this is what I used:

Code:
option explicit

dim fl,f,fso,cmd,shell,curDate,ret
dim backupDays,backupLocation,BKSDefinition

backupDays=7
backupLocation="F:\"
BKSDefinition="C:\Nero Files\Daily.bks" ' Create BKS in NTBackup (Save Backup)

set shell=createobject("wscript.shell")
set fso=createobject("scripting.filesystemobject")

' Get the backup drive
set fl=fso.getfolder(backupLocation)

' Delete files older than x days
for each f in fl.files
	if f.datecreated<dateadd("d",-backupdays,date) then f.delete
next

' Get backup log folder
set fl=fso.getfolder("C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows NT\NTBackup\catalogs51")

' Delete files older than x days
for each f in fl.files
	if f.datecreated<dateadd("d",-backupdays,date) then f.delete
next

' Create the date string MMDDYY
curdate=right("0" & month(date),2) & right("0" & day(date),2) & right(year(date),2)

' Backup the system
cmd="%systemroot%\system32\ntbackup.exe backup "
cmd=cmd & """@" & BKSDefinition & """ "
cmd=cmd & "/n ""Backup for " & date & """ "
cmd=cmd & "/d ""Backup Set " & date & """ "
cmd=cmd & "/v:no /r:no /rs:no /hc:off /m normal "
cmd=cmd & "/j ""Daily File Backup"" /l:s "
cmd=cmd & "/f """ & backupLocation & "Backup" & curdate & ".bkf"""

' execute the backup
'wscript.echo cmd
ret=shell.run(cmd,8,true)
Then my scheduled job is cscript "c:\nero files\back.vbs"

If you can't tell, I used to use Nero Backup. It wasn't so great.

Last edited by Anachostic; Sep 18, 2009 at 09:51 PM.
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 12:45 AM
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^ code/script god.
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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XP backup is fine if you are restoring to XP
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
If you want to test out a backup program, create a new folder, copy of bunch of stuff you have elsewhere to the folder, create a backup of just the folder using a tool of your choice, delete the folder, and then do a restore of the backup using your software.
You should be doing this periodically regardless of the backup program as a test.
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
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XP backup is fine if you are restoring to XP
I wouldn't trust online backups as the only mode. Out of business w/o any notice and you're screwed!!!
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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Like Stogie/Billiam said, the ntbackup utility is more of an IT tool than a normal user type program. As you saw all of your files will be stored in a single backup file, if you want to restore one you have to go into the restore manager and select the files and a destination. This is nice for work, but not what I'd want for home use.

I use "folder match", you specify a folder on your drive to back up to another drive, then anytime you want you just run the sync option, that will copy any files that are new or changed since your last sync. The nice thing is it makes copies of the folders and files as opposed to the single backup file.

I guess to answer your question, yes it is safe and reliable, you can schedule it to run when you want.

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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
I wouldn't trust online backups as the only mode. Out of business w/o any notice and you're screwed!!!
You would always get notice...
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