Hewlett-Packard: TouchPad News and Discussion Thread
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Still waiting on HP to give me any news of my order. I don't know if I will keep it, as of right now my TP serves as my night clock only 
The web browsing experience leaves much to be desired... And that's after I patched the crap out of it. But it's awesome for videos/youtube/music
And don't go Miz route, they are plenty available for less and new
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthr...2#edit41815736
The web browsing experience leaves much to be desired... And that's after I patched the crap out of it. But it's awesome for videos/youtube/musicAnd don't go Miz route, they are plenty available for less and new
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthr...2#edit41815736
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just figured out it isn't broken. Apparently the light doesnt show when you have nothing open or are in the app menu. It only shows when you have something open and would need to use the home button.
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Yes, with a touchscreen and a teensy slide-out keyboard. I thought it might be a suitable replacement for my 5+ year-old Razr when I looked at it. The only reason not to get the Veer immediately was that it wasn't on the HFL-approved list for our 3G TL.
It wasn't a month after I played with the Veer in the AT&T store when HP announced it was killing production...
It wasn't a month after I played with the Veer in the AT&T store when HP announced it was killing production...
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Yes, with a touchscreen and a teensy slide-out keyboard. I thought it might be a suitable replacement for my 5+ year-old Razr when I looked at it. The only reason not to get the Veer immediately was that it wasn't on the HFL-approved list for our 3G TL.
It wasn't a month after I played with the Veer in the AT&T store when HP announced it was killing production...
It wasn't a month after I played with the Veer in the AT&T store when HP announced it was killing production...
Whenever I make a call on my phone it defaults back to my iPhone as the source. I have to manually tell the iPhone to switch to HFL for the call. Pretty annoying.
Iirc my original iPhone didn't have an issue, only when I got the 3GS and 4 I started having that problem....
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I think it's one of your settings that is causing that issue. Check the "handsfree" or "car" and "auto-answer" settings-- there are several 3G TL threads about the iPhone and HFL that should give you enough info to set the phone to work fully through the HFL.
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The iPhone is an approved phone.
I think it's one of your settings that is causing that issue. Check the "handsfree" or "car" and "auto-answer" settings-- there are several 3G TL threads about the iPhone and HFL that should give you enough info to set the phone to work fully through the HFL.
I think it's one of your settings that is causing that issue. Check the "handsfree" or "car" and "auto-answer" settings-- there are several 3G TL threads about the iPhone and HFL that should give you enough info to set the phone to work fully through the HFL.
But I digress....No further info from HP SMB. Should be shipping any day now....
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Video of it in action straight from the team that released it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XDmKGmn4vs
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?...-Touchpad-port
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XDmKGmn4vs
SO WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK?
Most hardware features of the Tablet should now be supported, although not 100%. There may be issues with sound, camera, wifi, etc. As stated previously, it is definitely an alpha build.
Here is a helpful list of features that are near-completion. Thanks to DarkRedFlame for compiling this.
* Booting into Android
* ADB commands via ADB
* Power, back/home and volume button layout
* Touchscreen support (Multi-touch, 10 fingers)
* GPU Acceleration (2D Acceleration doesn't work, but not a release blocker)
* Dual core processing
* Bluetooth
* Sound
* Accelerometer
* Power Management
* Battery Reporting
* Camera(only video chat, no recording or snapshots)
* Vibration
* Backlight
* LED
* Multiboot (via moboot)
* ClockworkMod Recovery
* Fast Switch Boot
* Fake SD card Mount
* Light Sensor(need to check "Enable Light Decrease" in cyanogenmod settings->display->automatic backlight
* Accessing webOS files from Android and vice versa
* Touchstone Support
* Softkeys
* Wifi
* And much, much more!
As far as what *doesn't* work, that list is probably too long for a FAQ.
* Many apps will have compatibility issues. Many. Including possibly your favorite app.
* Phone-related items (such as the dialer and text messenger) are left in the build. These apps consume minimal energy and can largely be ignored.
* Speaking of energy-- power management has not been the focus of the port thus far. Battery life is not as good as it might be, and you can probably expect improvement in this area over time.
Most hardware features of the Tablet should now be supported, although not 100%. There may be issues with sound, camera, wifi, etc. As stated previously, it is definitely an alpha build.
Here is a helpful list of features that are near-completion. Thanks to DarkRedFlame for compiling this.
* Booting into Android
* ADB commands via ADB
* Power, back/home and volume button layout
* Touchscreen support (Multi-touch, 10 fingers)
* GPU Acceleration (2D Acceleration doesn't work, but not a release blocker)
* Dual core processing
* Bluetooth
* Sound
* Accelerometer
* Power Management
* Battery Reporting
* Camera(only video chat, no recording or snapshots)
* Vibration
* Backlight
* LED
* Multiboot (via moboot)
* ClockworkMod Recovery
* Fast Switch Boot
* Fake SD card Mount
* Light Sensor(need to check "Enable Light Decrease" in cyanogenmod settings->display->automatic backlight
* Accessing webOS files from Android and vice versa
* Touchstone Support
* Softkeys
* Wifi
* And much, much more!
As far as what *doesn't* work, that list is probably too long for a FAQ.
* Many apps will have compatibility issues. Many. Including possibly your favorite app.
* Phone-related items (such as the dialer and text messenger) are left in the build. These apps consume minimal energy and can largely be ignored.
* Speaking of energy-- power management has not been the focus of the port thus far. Battery life is not as good as it might be, and you can probably expect improvement in this area over time.
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Web browsing is similar to any other comparably specced Android device (like the Xoom/Galaxy). When I ran CF Bench, the Touchpad benched slightly higher/equivalent to the Samsung Galaxy S2, which is the best phone on the market right now.... of course comparing a Phone to a Tablet is like apples and oranges, but still the Galaxy S2 is beastly in its own right (and IMO is pretty much the galaxy tablet in phone form).
Also, I now have a full functioning N64/PSX emulator and can use my Wiimote+classic controller via bluetooth to play!
BUT, and a VERY BIG ASS BUTT...
Its not without its quirks though... for instance, I left it sitting on my Touchstone all night to wake up and find the screen would not light up at all. Thought I had bricked it, until I did the hard reset via holding down the Power and Home buttons for 15 seconds.
I do suggest that for those that aren't comfortable with rooting/flashing roms on android phones (or jailbreaking iphones) to sit it out until atleast a Beta version comes out.
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Pretty stable as in it runs 95% of the apps I've tried to load up. I literally took the Titanium Backup folder from my Atrix running CM7 and restored all of my apps and 95% of them run fine (having a problem with Dungeon Defenders - although it may be because I've used SetCPU to overclock to 1.8 ghz).
Web browsing is similar to any other comparably specced Android device (like the Xoom/Galaxy). When I ran CF Bench, the Touchpad benched slightly higher/equivalent to the Samsung Galaxy S2, which is the best phone on the market right now.... of course comparing a Phone to a Tablet is like apples and oranges, but still the Galaxy S2 is beastly in its own right (and IMO is pretty much the galaxy tablet in phone form).
Also, I now have a full functioning N64/PSX emulator and can use my Wiimote+classic controller via bluetooth to play!
BUT, and a VERY BIG ASS BUTT...
Its not without its quirks though... for instance, I left it sitting on my Touchstone all night to wake up and find the screen would not light up at all. Thought I had bricked it, until I did the hard reset via holding down the Power and Home buttons for 15 seconds.
I do suggest that for those that aren't comfortable with rooting/flashing roms on android phones (or jailbreaking iphones) to sit it out until atleast a Beta version comes out.
Web browsing is similar to any other comparably specced Android device (like the Xoom/Galaxy). When I ran CF Bench, the Touchpad benched slightly higher/equivalent to the Samsung Galaxy S2, which is the best phone on the market right now.... of course comparing a Phone to a Tablet is like apples and oranges, but still the Galaxy S2 is beastly in its own right (and IMO is pretty much the galaxy tablet in phone form).
Also, I now have a full functioning N64/PSX emulator and can use my Wiimote+classic controller via bluetooth to play!
BUT, and a VERY BIG ASS BUTT...
Its not without its quirks though... for instance, I left it sitting on my Touchstone all night to wake up and find the screen would not light up at all. Thought I had bricked it, until I did the hard reset via holding down the Power and Home buttons for 15 seconds.
I do suggest that for those that aren't comfortable with rooting/flashing roms on android phones (or jailbreaking iphones) to sit it out until atleast a Beta version comes out.
Does the touchstone still charge it? I'm still going to give it a try, but just wondering.
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Here are some screens: Using Launcher pro currently cause I like that you can resize the calendar widget... dock screen always stays mounted in portrait though. Also tried VT Launcher which is catered for tablets, and that has a rotating dock.
Last picture is a benchmark (slight overclock to 1.5 ghz).
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^ I followed those instructions.
Just some clarification points:
1. After you install Novacom, "the terminal" in windows is the Dos Command Prompt.
2. Make sure to also include the "moboot" zip file in the /cminstall folder in the root directory of the Touchpad - I didn't do it the first time around and couldn't boot into webos. If you forget to do this, you can always recreate the "cminstall" folder and rerun acme installer.
3. Also to make your life easier, place Acmeinstaller in the root directory of your C: drive.
4. After installing CM7, you need to download and flash the "gapps.zip" (the real zip package is named much longer like gapps-gb-20110613-signed-zip) package through CWM Recovery from the CM7 wiki site to install the Marketplace and other google applications. Download the zip, copy it to your Touchpad root directory and reboot into Recovery. Navigate through recovery with the volume up/down buttons and hit the physical home button to select, and go to "Install Zip from sdcard" -> "choose zip from sdcard" -> select the gapps.zip file -> "Yes - install gapps.zip" and reboot after installation.
5. Lastly, after you have CM7 loaded, when you decide to leave/charge your Touchpad, I suggest rebooting into WebOs. I think one of the major issues I've discovered with this Alpha is that while charging in CM7, the Touchpad will go dark and unresponsive (buttons/screen). Don't freak out if this happens, just hold down the physical power button and home buttons for 15-25 seconds until you see the HP boot logo.
Just some clarification points:
1. After you install Novacom, "the terminal" in windows is the Dos Command Prompt.
2. Make sure to also include the "moboot" zip file in the /cminstall folder in the root directory of the Touchpad - I didn't do it the first time around and couldn't boot into webos. If you forget to do this, you can always recreate the "cminstall" folder and rerun acme installer.
3. Also to make your life easier, place Acmeinstaller in the root directory of your C: drive.
4. After installing CM7, you need to download and flash the "gapps.zip" (the real zip package is named much longer like gapps-gb-20110613-signed-zip) package through CWM Recovery from the CM7 wiki site to install the Marketplace and other google applications. Download the zip, copy it to your Touchpad root directory and reboot into Recovery. Navigate through recovery with the volume up/down buttons and hit the physical home button to select, and go to "Install Zip from sdcard" -> "choose zip from sdcard" -> select the gapps.zip file -> "Yes - install gapps.zip" and reboot after installation.
5. Lastly, after you have CM7 loaded, when you decide to leave/charge your Touchpad, I suggest rebooting into WebOs. I think one of the major issues I've discovered with this Alpha is that while charging in CM7, the Touchpad will go dark and unresponsive (buttons/screen). Don't freak out if this happens, just hold down the physical power button and home buttons for 15-25 seconds until you see the HP boot logo.
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So when you download apps are they stretched phone apps or is it downloading the tablet specific apps if there is one? I believe some apps have a tablet specific version for android don't they?
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The apps I have been running (mostly ones I already had or free ones) scale to the size of the touchpad - they actually look pretty good.
Some tablet apps do work... but then there are a few apps optimized for tablets which do not recognize the Touchpad - figure that will be worked out in later builds of CM.
Some tablet apps do work... but then there are a few apps optimized for tablets which do not recognize the Touchpad - figure that will be worked out in later builds of CM.
