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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 10:02 AM
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Hewlett-Packard: Exits Personal Computer Market

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By spinning off Hewlett-Packard Co. (HPQ)’s personal-computer business, Chief Executive Officer Leo Apotheker is shedding a unit the founders never liked anyway.

David Packard only reluctantly agreed to focus on PCs in the early 1990s. And Walter Hewlett, a board member and son of co-founder Bill Hewlett, mounted an unsuccessful campaign to block the 2002 acquisition of Compaq Computer Corp., a deal that vaulted Hewlett-Packard to the top of the PC industry.
From Hewlett-Packard’s beginnings in 1939, the company’s founders set out to invent one-of-a-kind products and tools for engineers. They never intended to become the biggest provider of a commodity product, said Michael Cusumano, a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s Sloan School of Management. Now that PC profits are waning amid competition from Asian rivals, Apotheker is poised to return to that philosophy.

“Their DNA never included being a commodity consumer products manufacturer, which is what the PC has become,” Cusumano said. “It’s certainly not where the action and innovation is in the business these days.

They can reinvent themselves. They may have the capability to do it.”
While the PC unit accounted for 30 percent of sales last quarter, it only generated a 5.9 percent operating margin. That’s less than at any other division in the company.

Hewlett-Packard, based in Palo Alto, California, dropped $5.91, or 20 percent, to $23.60 at 4 p.m. on the New York Stock Exchange, the biggest decline since October 1987.

IBM’s Deal

Hewlett-Packard’s move mirrors a broader shift among U.S. technology
companies, with fewer of them designing and selling PCs -- a trend that began when International Business Machines Corp. (IBM) offloaded its PC unit to China’s Lenovo Group Ltd. in 2005. Dell Inc. (DELL), the second-largest PC maker, also is focusing more on services, though PCs still make up about half its sales.

The U.S. and European PC markets declined last quarter, while Asia Pacific, excluding Japan, grew more than 12 percent, according to research firm IDC. Local manufacturers benefited more from that growth than Hewlett-Packard. Its shipments grew 3 percent in the quarter, compared with 23 percent growth for Lenovo and 6 percent for Asustek Computer Inc., the Taiwanese maker of low-cost computers.

“All the PC vendors in the U.S. are now more focused on services,” said Pat Becker Jr., a fund manager at Portland, Oregon-based Becker Capital Management Inc. His firm holds Hewlett-Packard shares as part of the $2.2 billion it oversees. “You look at the margin structure of the PC business and the cyclicality, and it’s best led by somebody outside our borders.”
Steve Wozniak

Hewlett-Packard was a reluctant and relatively late entrant to the personal-computer market, which IBM turned into a mainstream product with the release of its first PC in 1981. Years before, Hewlett-Packard had turned down a proposal by one of its engineers to buy the design for a home computer he invented. The employee, Steve Wozniak, turned the idea into the Apple I in the 1970s. Still, Packard never expressed regret for the decision.

Packard agreed to let the company begin selling PCs in the early 1990s, so that they could be used to access Hewlett- Packard’s more sophisticated Unix machines. Packard never cared for computers in general, preferring other kinds of electronic equipment, according to “Perfect Enough,” a 2003 book by George Anders, who is now a Bloomberg columnist.

Packard, who died in 1996, wasn’t around to see CEO Carly Fiorina bet the company on PCs. Both Hewlett and Packard’s foundations voted against the $18.9 billion deal, which was completed in May 2002. Hewlett died the year before.

Fiorina’s Fight

Walter Hewlett, the co-founder’s son and a board member, budgeted $32 million to fight the deal, out of concern about the impact of the low-margin PC business. When Fiorina won the four- month proxy battle, Hewlett sued Hewlett-Packard in Delaware chancery court, prompting Fiorina and the board to kick him off.

The acquisition has helped the company grow over the last decade, said Dan Olds, an analyst at Gabriel Consulting in Beaverton, Oregon.

“HP became a dominant player in PCs, so I don’t know if I would call this the revenge of Walter,” Olds said.

Now Apotheker, who took the reins of Hewlett-Packard in November, may turn his back on the PC business.

The move would put pressure on the company to improve its other businesses, including corporate software, services, security, storage and networking, Cusumano said. It also will have to do what IBM did and acquire more software companies. Apotheker made a move in that direction yesterday, agreeing to buy the search-software maker Autonomy Corp. for $10.3 billion.

Autonomy, based in Cambridge, England, jumped 74 percent to 24.90 pounds ($41.29) as of 2:41 p.m. in London. Before today, the stock had declined 5.1 percent this year.

“Giving up a third of your revenue, even if you end up being more profitable, it’s still a big chunk,” Cusumano said. “As the biggest PC manufacturer, they were in a lot of people’s homes as well as offices. They will lose that.”

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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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(Sigh)

Already being discussed in the Mobile forum. TouchPads are on fire sale and available from HP and others for $99+ instead of the original $499+

I bought one on launch day and have been very happy with it. At worst, you have a fully functional web browser, great screen and excellent (for a tablet) speakers. Even if HP shuts off all their servers, the device will still communicate through your wifi to all your accounts/social networks.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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Well, investors certainly didn't agree with HP's big plan...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...271024274.html
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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HP is a bunch of idiots. How do you take Palm's great ideas and HP's enormous pockets and ROYALLY screw things up?
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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Why do I have a feeling this has something to do with neural computing?
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 10:52 AM
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Good. I never liked HP PC's and never thought they should've bought Compaq in the first place.

HP will be a better company without PCs. Watch.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 11:08 AM
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great more US job losses.....
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 11:27 AM
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They were ever IN the personal computer market? lulz

I think I knew only 1 person that had an HP... back in 2000
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by imj0257
They were ever IN the personal computer market? lulz

I think I knew only 1 person that had an HP... back in 2000
My employer uses HP computers...I think a nice chunk of their PC revenue is from government/company contracts and via servers.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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Wait, I'm kinda confused. So what is HP getting rid of? I think I'm taking this too literally, but are they getting rid of tower computers and not laptops/tablets?

BTW, I've owned three laptops and all three of them have been HP. Haven't had any issues with all of them. HP offers a much better discount when they roll out their coupons.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 12:31 PM
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Wait, I'm kinda confused. So what is HP getting rid of? I think I'm taking this too literally, but are they getting rid of tower computers and not laptops/tablets?
HP is ending the production of tablets and phones.
HP is looking for a buyer for its PC-- tower and laptop-- business.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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HP computer sucks big time
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Will Y.
HP is ending the production of tablets and phones.
HP is looking for a buyer for its PC-- tower and laptop-- business.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DIZAZNDOOD320
HP computer sucks big time
Not as much as Ap..................erm, nevermind.




























Ah, I kid I kid...well, not really.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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Gah dammit. They were selling HP Touchpad for $99 16gb, $149 32gb. Freakin sold out everywhere right about now.....
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mdkxtreme
Gah dammit. They were selling HP Touchpad for $99 16gb, $149 32gb. Freakin sold out everywhere right about now.....
Welcome to yesterday.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 01:42 PM
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Spin off PC unit as Compaq maybe???

And I have a feeling this spun off company is going to slowly die
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Spin off PC unit as Compaq maybe???

And I have a feeling this spun off company is going to slowly die
Unless it's spun off to China. Or maybe India.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 01:54 PM
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maybe Acer will buy them... they seem to like buying dying pc companies.... like Gateway and eMachines
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 03:53 PM
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so sad to see HP go I bought two HP laptops within a few months of each other, mine suffered the typical motherboard heat death after maybe a year or so, my fiancee's is still going, but its a big POS that I'm just using for internet access these days.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mdkxtreme
Gah dammit. They were selling HP Touchpad for $99 16gb, $149 32gb. Freakin sold out everywhere right about now.....
Now how come it took so long for HP to find the price point that people are willing to pay for a Touchpad?
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They need to exit the printer business. Their printers suck donkey nuts.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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HP=Hopeless Products


My first desktop computer was an HP.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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People are taking this out of context. First they said it would be almost a year before any final decisions are made. Second even if they were to sell the business or shut down completely there is going to be support for the computers still. It is not the end of the world.
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
HP is a bunch of idiots. How do you take Palm's great ideas and HP's enormous pockets and ROYALLY screw things up?
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
They need to exit the printer business. Their printers suck donkey nuts.
Not when their IPG did $6.1 billion in revenue last quarter with a 14.7% operating margin
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They ruined there printers by switching to the razor/blade method to maximize profits. Their printers used to be tanks. Even their Prolaint servers are not near the quaility of the old Compaqs.

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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 08:00 PM
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They need to exit the printer business. Their printers suck donkey nuts.
I've had several HP printers and they've all worked great.
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interesting...and I just purchased a used HP xw8400 Workstation yesterday (upgraded to 12Gb RAM, 8 processors). They had good products, just weren't the popular choice I guess.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
They need to exit the printer business. Their printers suck donkey nuts.
The printers are alright, it's the damn desktop software that comes with them that needs to go into the trash...
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Not when their IPG did $6.1 billion in revenue last quarter with a 14.7% operating margin
Profits =/= quality.

I thought their desktop offerings were decent, their printers not so much.

Not quite Lexmark shitty, but not fantastic.
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
The printers are alright, it's the damn desktop software that comes with them that needs to go into the trash...
Printer software is super bloated.

Originally Posted by CocheseUGA
Profits =/= quality.
True, but what I meant was that their IPG generates so much $ that they won't be dumping that division any time soon (like they are with PCs), even if their printers aren't what they use to be.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
HP is a bunch of idiots. How do you take Palm's great ideas and HP's enormous pockets and ROYALLY screw things up?
Well, it didn't help Palm had already shit on their own name prior to selling.

Lots of people (including myself) won't ever touch another Palm product after the consistently shitty Treo's.

Shame because their palm pilots had always been pretty solid.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Shame because their palm pilots had always been pretty solid.


I had just about every Palm Pilot ever made. Loved them and the few I still have work like new.
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^ Still have my Handspring Deluxe too. And works like new
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What's with all the HP bashing? I've never had an issue with their products. Maybe you guys don't understand but all PC Companies just brand the box. They all use the same manufacturers / ODMs.

I'm trying to score a cheap tablet. Sad to see HP fold the PC business but it doesn't surprise me. With so much competition they barely make any money on their machines. Pennies on the Desktops and Nickels on the Laptops, although that margin significantly reduced the past couple of years. I think most companies thought it was better to have something than nothing, maybe with the added services segment they think they can continue to function.. Personally..

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It wouldn't surprise me if Dell follows suit.
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Originally Posted by AZuser
Not when their IPG did $6.1 billion in revenue last quarter with a 14.7% operating margin
Printers still suck donkey nuts.
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 12:23 PM
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On the consumer side of things I would definately rate HP > Dell. Anyone with a Studio laptop knows exactly what I mean about craptastic build quality........Dell may have turned it around lately but dam this studio is a total regret buy on my part.....with HP going down, I am going to have to go back to Dell's business lineup.....
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Originally Posted by Majofo
What's with all the HP bashing? I've never had an issue with their products. Maybe you guys don't understand but all PC Companies just brand the box. They all use the same manufacturers / ODMs.
As an example, Gateway used to put together a computer that, running at idle required, say 540 watts. SO, to save money, they would install a 540 watt, non-standard power supply. Problem was, as soon as you started up Internet Exploder, some fan somewhere needed an extra watt or two and something would fail. Also, Dell has consistently purchased poor quality Wifi radio modules and motherboard components for their consumer line of laptops. In order to keep the costs low, they tell the manufacturer of a component how much they will buy each for, and the manufacturer adds or more likely removes QC and other steps from the manufacturing process to be able to maintain a profit margin at the cost Dell/gateway/etc is paying for the part.

There are oblivious limits to this in the upward direction, though.

I once purchased a Falcon Northwest computer and upon opening it, found all the components to be exactly what I would have assembled from Newegg had I built it myself. Only difference (aside from an extra ~$1000) was the cool FNW back lit logo faceplate and some goodies they threw in the bag.
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moral of the story.. you get what you pay for.
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