Help! Backup disk died.
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Why not get an HP mediasmart Windows Home server, it less expensive than a drobo has a shit ton more features and can do time machine backup and restores.
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/sh...ers&catLevel=1
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/sh...ers&catLevel=1
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buy your drives separately from newegg?
caviar greens 2tbs for $120 each. It's the same drive that comes in the drobos.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-514-_-Product
caviar greens 2tbs for $120 each. It's the same drive that comes in the drobos.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-514-_-Product
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Why not get an HP mediasmart Windows Home server, it less expensive than a drobo has a shit ton more features and can do time machine backup and restores.
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/sh...ers&catLevel=1
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/sh...ers&catLevel=1
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I'd wait for the next version of WHS if you can it's going to enable remote media streaming but looking at the hardware specs of these HPs the look like they can handle the next version pretty well.
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Since there will be no upgrade path, if you want the features of the new version of WHS and you don't want to build a second WHS box to get them, you should wait for it.
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http://www.microsoft.com/mac/product...p/default.mspx
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digita...9048098&sr=8-2
We have the slightly older version, and it has worked great so far.
We have the slightly older version, and it has worked great so far.
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http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digita...9048098&sr=8-2
We have the slightly older version, and it has worked great so far.
We have the slightly older version, and it has worked great so far.
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Scrib, you thought of just building your own RAID box?
FWIW, the only Seagate drives that had issues were a single version of the 1.5TB (I think v7200.9).
Many of these ready made boxes can be purchased "bare" (no drives) but if you do, I would recommend purchasing a spare drive tray along with the unit, in case you need to swap one out. The trays are usually only about $30-$50.
Buy your own drives from Newegg FTW.
FWIW, the only Seagate drives that had issues were a single version of the 1.5TB (I think v7200.9).
Many of these ready made boxes can be purchased "bare" (no drives) but if you do, I would recommend purchasing a spare drive tray along with the unit, in case you need to swap one out. The trays are usually only about $30-$50.
Buy your own drives from Newegg FTW.
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I got my drobo from Amazon. There was a $50 rebate and free 2 day shipping via Amazon Prime...I also got my drives from there. I went with Seagates...been fine for well over a year now. I still have two slots free...which I will need to fill soon.
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What I've learned.
iPhoto and NAS devices do NOT get along.
Speeds are OK, the drobo transfer speeds are not all that. The QNAP device is much better.
Most use a variant of linux as the OS, so the disk scheme is ext3, 4, which MAY cause issues with performing Time Machine backups, as Apple states HFS+ is a requirement. All these manufacturers say it will work, but... This is the main reason why iPhoto doesn't work well also.
They are wicked expensive.
I may end up just getting another FW disk and calling it a day. Can always do this later.
iPhoto and NAS devices do NOT get along.
Speeds are OK, the drobo transfer speeds are not all that. The QNAP device is much better.
Most use a variant of linux as the OS, so the disk scheme is ext3, 4, which MAY cause issues with performing Time Machine backups, as Apple states HFS+ is a requirement. All these manufacturers say it will work, but... This is the main reason why iPhoto doesn't work well also.
They are wicked expensive.
I may end up just getting another FW disk and calling it a day. Can always do this later.
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It's a done deal. Went with the OWC product.
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other...g/MEQX2KIT0GB/
Ended up going without disks from OWC and purchased the disks from Newegg; 4x1.5TB. I'll run a RAID 5 config and be done.
After doing back and forth, I came to the conclusion that the Drobo (basically the same thing as the OWC product without the proprietary RAID logic) was too much $$$ and the performance on the "low end" models are lacking.
I turned my attention to true NAS products and while there are many options out there, the justification to spend the money on one didn't seem to make sense as the only benefit I'd get from them would be the RAID functionality. They all seem to offer media servers, bittorrent clients, FTP, SSH, mail servers, etc. But I already have that invested in the mac mini, so it'd be wasteful. Combine that with the fact that all NAS units, while mac friendly, don't offer the native disk format of HFS+. While libraries like iTunes aren't impacted, iPhoto and Aperture are, and impacted severely. Time Machine was another requirement, and while TM is to function properly, it still makes me nervous doing it off a "non-supported" format layer like ext3.
For those that are interested in a NAS (and there's already a thread out there), take a look at the products by a company called QNAP (www.qnap.com).
That is all. Gear should be here tomorrow. All in was just over $650, which isn't all that bad. I could have gotten the disks from OWC, but their 4x1TB config was $620 before shipping. So for just a few bucks more, I get another 2TB. Sold.
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other...g/MEQX2KIT0GB/
Ended up going without disks from OWC and purchased the disks from Newegg; 4x1.5TB. I'll run a RAID 5 config and be done.
After doing back and forth, I came to the conclusion that the Drobo (basically the same thing as the OWC product without the proprietary RAID logic) was too much $$$ and the performance on the "low end" models are lacking.
I turned my attention to true NAS products and while there are many options out there, the justification to spend the money on one didn't seem to make sense as the only benefit I'd get from them would be the RAID functionality. They all seem to offer media servers, bittorrent clients, FTP, SSH, mail servers, etc. But I already have that invested in the mac mini, so it'd be wasteful. Combine that with the fact that all NAS units, while mac friendly, don't offer the native disk format of HFS+. While libraries like iTunes aren't impacted, iPhoto and Aperture are, and impacted severely. Time Machine was another requirement, and while TM is to function properly, it still makes me nervous doing it off a "non-supported" format layer like ext3.
For those that are interested in a NAS (and there's already a thread out there), take a look at the products by a company called QNAP (www.qnap.com).
That is all. Gear should be here tomorrow. All in was just over $650, which isn't all that bad. I could have gotten the disks from OWC, but their 4x1TB config was $620 before shipping. So for just a few bucks more, I get another 2TB. Sold.
