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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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Hard Drive problem

Ok I wanted a little extra storage and had a WD 40gig IDE drive from an old computer. I installed it on the slave port of my master ide channel with my 160gig on the master port. After powering up the computer device manager recognized the hd and installed it. I was able to see the HD in "my computer" and see the files on it. Since I no longer needed this data I right clicked on it and choose format. It went though most of the way and then error'd and said that the drive couldn't be formatted. Now anytime you try to access the hd it says its not formatted and if you try it just fails immediately. The most strange part is that it never shows in disk manager, but does show in "my computer" and in the bios. Both HD have the jumpers set for cable select.

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installed old hd
was able to read files
formatted drive, which failed
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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Disable Cable Select. Set the master to master and the slave to, you guessed it, slave.

Try that and see if it works. Also, if you can, try the 2nd HDD on a different IDE channel still set to slave.
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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Second ide channel is full but I will change the jumper selections. Is XP really stupid enough to not work with cable select?
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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jumpers changed and same thing...

Why do I have to be a nerd and want to fix this stuff
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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During boot, does it show up as a drive in the IDE scan?
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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yup, shows up in the scan and in bios as well as device manager
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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Give this a shot:

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/


Download, burn to CD, then boot from it.

The HDD diagnostic tools should be able to get you either going or to the knowledge that the drive may just be kaput.

I forgot to ask, does the drive still physically spin when powered up?
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 01:31 AM
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run chkdsk d:

or whatever the slave drive is?



Long shot, but is the IDE ribbon cable a 40 or 80 wire?

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/conf_Cable80.htm

Some mobos can have problems identifying a HDD if it's not a 80 wire ribbon.
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 01:57 AM
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I say just do a low level format and start the fuck over since there's nothing on there. If that doesn't work than your drive es muerte.

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...mat-Tool.shtml
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 02:03 AM
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Have you tried rolling back/updating the drivers in device manager? Does it show up in device manager?

Also check the thread below. The user had a similar problem with a WD hard drive.

http://www.pchelpforum.com/hard-driv...ment-help.html
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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I'd think that the LLF utility should get you squared away. You could always boot off of an xp disk and format using the setup process.
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Vector02
I'd think that the LLF utility should get you squared away. You could always boot off of an xp disk and format using the setup process.
Ok so the newest news is that last night I booted from my XP disk and formatted the drive. The install started and ran until it needed to reboot the PC. This is when the story goes downhill...

The PC then booted from the new HD instead of my existing HD. I didn't want that so I unplugged the new HD. Now the PC will not boot into my old drive at all. So I booted from the XP disk again and choose to repair my install. Everything seemed ok but now it just boots to a blank screen in normal mode and freezes at mup.sys in safe mode. Trying to run the repair again shows that no XP install is reconized. However I have a killdisk boot floppy that I can boot from and will allow me to see my partitions and files...everything is still there.

So at this point im going to buy an external case and copy all my important files over to our laptop and then just do a fresh install.
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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Jesus, usually you need an advanced degree to screw stuff up this badly!

You win.

Good luck with the fresh install.
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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It's so worth the extra 40GB
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 09:54 PM
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Wasn't it willdogs that started a thread on tossing an old HD into the lake when it went bad?
OP may wish to consider doing the same, at this point...
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by spdy0001
Ok so the newest news is that last night I booted from my XP disk and formatted the drive. The install started and ran until it needed to reboot the PC. This is when the story goes downhill...

The PC then booted from the new HD instead of my existing HD. I didn't want that so I unplugged the new HD. Now the PC will not boot into my old drive at all. So I booted from the XP disk again and choose to repair my install. Everything seemed ok but now it just boots to a blank screen in normal mode and freezes at mup.sys in safe mode. Trying to run the repair again shows that no XP install is reconized. However I have a killdisk boot floppy that I can boot from and will allow me to see my partitions and files...everything is still there.

So at this point im going to buy an external case and copy all my important files over to our laptop and then just do a fresh install.
You didn't unplug all the other drives when you formatted? You don't need to load all the xp setup files to the new drive after format, just format and turn the thing off. Then reinstall your primary drive, point the BIOS there for boot and it should be fine...
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
Give this a shot:

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/


Download, burn to CD, then boot from it.

The HDD diagnostic tools should be able to get you either going or to the knowledge that the drive may just be kaput.

I forgot to ask, does the drive still physically spin when powered up?
Hiren's Boot CD > UBCD

http://www.hirensbootcd.net/
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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Whopper vs. Big Mac.
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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so after some research I think that the problem may be that the C drive my no longer be the active partition. I am going to check that once I get my external case
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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Any partition manager should be able to fix this. Gparted comes to mind.
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