srika

One of the things Macintosh really has going for em, imo, is the Powerbook. So thin, yet so many features. I always wondered why they didn't have such thin laptops in the PC market... well looks like they finally do. Does anyone know of any other PC laptops like this? I sure don't. Only thing I could wish for on the 15.4" model is WUXGA resolution... perhaps they have it by now.

http://www.go-l.com/news/product_news/2004/index.htm


05/2004 - Announcing the all-new ultra-mobile NEW YORKER 15.4" WideScreen Laptop Series
l announces all-new NEW YORKER Laptop series featuring a world-class UltraSpeed™ Widescreen 500:1 contrast ratio/ 120 viewing angle 15.4" WideScreen WXGA+ 1280x800 pixel UltraSpeed LCD Display and support for the lasted ultra-0high performance mobile Dothan Penitum-M Precoessor. The new NEW YORKER receives its architectural blueprints from 's 17" Hollywood Laptop Series, crunching many of its technology and revolutionary features in a light package under 5.5lbs. The ideal multimedia platform for work and travel based on Intel's "Centrino" Mobile Technology, it is the ultimate widescreen gaming and high-end graphics users computing machine, featuring an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro Mobility Graphics Adapter with dedicated 128MB memory on board. Designed for all-day computing on the go, it features up to 6 hours of continuing operation with high-capacity battery pack, built-in WebCam camera for video conferencing, integrated wireless LAN 802.11g (54 Mbps), Bluetooth connectivity, DVD-Burner, and Super-BIOS (IBPT) performance enhancement technology. Redefining the 15.4" Laptop category, the NEW YORKER is the ultimate multimedia powerhouse with it's 4 HI-FI Surround Speakers plus a Subwoofer and supporting up to 80GB Storage space using a ultra-high 5400RPM or 7200RPM Hard Drives. The NEW YORKER will be the ideal multimedia platform for work and travel based on Intel's "Centrino" Mobile Technology. Designed for all-day computing on the go, it features up to 6 hours of continuing operation with high-capacity battery pack, built-in WebCam camera for video conferencing, integrated wireless LAN 802.11g (54 Mbps), Bluetooth connectivity, DVD-Burner, and Performance improvements include a completely redesigned motherboard supporting EL DDR333 DRAM up to 2GB based on Intel's 855PM+Intel82801DBM(ICH4-M) design supporting 400MHz FSB and an ultra-high performance Pentium-M Processor with a full 1MB of L2 Cache . Connectivity expansion include USB 2.0,Firewire IEEE1394, S-video OUT, Parallel, high-speed Infrared/IrDA, CRT, PS/2, audio ports, RJ45, and RJ11. A DeLuxe Carrying case, multi-voltage auto-switching AC Adapter, and high-power Smart Li-Ion battery, are now standard. Aimed at the CAD, video, audio, graphics, developer, corporate, large, medium to small-business, and high-end personal or gaming user on the go, the upcoming NEW YORKER redefines the "no compromise" 15.4" Pro Laptop category, in a package under 5.5lbs.
The NEW YORKER is slanted for launch in Q2 2004. Price and specs subject to changes without notice until release of final production model.

They also have a 17" model...

03/2004 - Announcing the Hollywood GOLD Series Professional 17" Widescreen Notebook Computer
l announces its most advanced PC Laptop computer. The all-new Hollywood mobile PC Workstation GOLD Series with a 17" WXGA or ground-breaking WSXGA+1680x1050 UltraSpeed™ Widescreen 500:1 contrast ratio/ 120 viewing angle Super Clear Glossy Surface Display, revolutionizes the mobile computing platform in every front of manufacturing, design, performance, features and modular upgradeability. Bringing mobile professional workstations to a radical new pinnacle, the new Hollywood GOLD Series is the world's first laptop computer that is fully compatible with Intel's new Prescott Pentium 4 Processor with 1MB of L2 Cache up to 3.4GHz. Equally, it is the world's first laptop with full HDTV output support built around ATI's new Radeon 9700 Pro AGP 8x Mobility Graphics Adaptor with a whopping 256MB of dedicated DDR-II Memory for never-before seen gaming, CAD, 3D and graphics performance. Supporting DVI connectivity for external display resolutions up to 2048x1536x16M (and up to 4 displays via optional Connectivity Module), up to 2GB DDR400 Dual Channel DDR based on Intel's enhanced 800MHz FSB 865P Chipset design, the new Hollywood GOLD Series features an enhanced FreeFlow Cooling Architecture capable of effectively removing up to 150W CPU / 85W Chipset+Graphics Adapter generated heat. It is also the first 17" notebook to be graced with Triple Hard Drive capabilities for up to 300GB of storage space, RAID 0/1 support for radically improved disk performance and fault tolerance, PuRAM SSD no System Hard Disk design with burst transfer rates up to 6.4GB/s I/O, capable of over 150,000 I/O requests per second, translating into real-world performance of up to 100 faster than the fastest available Hard Disk design at any price or configuration. The awe-inspiring performance is allied to 's new SoftSet™ Anti-Shock Protection Architecture, through which most of all internal mechanical components are mounted and attached to the chassis via dedicated sprints and impact absorbing materials, to reduce damage due to shock or impact. Added features include built-in CCD Digital Video Camera, high-speed modular 2x Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW (fully upgradeable to 4x and 8x units as available), built-in 6-1 Memory Card Reader, enhanced high-output 4 Surround Speakers and an optional Subwoofer and TV Tuner with remote, high-speed Gigabit LAN, 802.11g Turbo (108 Mbps) Wireless LAN, Bluetooth, Firewire, USB 2.0 and high-performance 32-bit CardBus Interface. High performance Sound-Blaster Pro compatible audio system with virtual 6-channel audio output; S/PDIF Digital output(5.1 CH) is now standard with extremely low latencies values and extensively optimized drivers supporting high-resolution multi-channel audio (24/192 and beyond) allied to new MIDI and DSP capabilities and virtual instrument plug-in compliance, making it the ultimate workstation for audio and video professionals. Virtual 6 channels audio output, DirectSound 3D Accelerator, Virtual AC3 will also be standard. A DeLuxe Carrying case, multi-voltage auto-switching AC Adapter, and high-power Smart Li-Ion battery, are now standard. Aimed at the professionals, CAD, video, audio, graphics, developer, corporate, large, medium to small-business, and high-end personal and gaming users, the new Hollywood GOLD Series redefines the 17" Professional Laptop category as the most desirable and anticipated high performance notebook of 2004. Specs:
Fully upgradeable and configurable High-end Workstation Class Professional Notebook.

Revolutionary 17" 1680x1050 UltraSpeed™ Widescreen 500:1 contrast ratio/ 120 angle viewing Super Clear Glossy Surface Display
3.40GHz EE Intel® Pentium 4 with HT Technology & higher and Intel's new Prescott Pentium 4 Processor with 1MB of L2 Cache.
800MHz Front Side System Bus
Super-BIOS™ (IBPT), enhanced CacheFlow™ and PuRam™ Technologies.
Up to 2 GB Dual-Channel DDR400 SDRAM fully upgradeable.
ATI Mobility Radeon™ 9700 AGP Pro with up to 256MB DDR-II.
DVI Connectivity supporting resolutions up to 2048x1536x16M
HDTV Output support
CCD Color Video Camera Built-in.
Up to 300GB of hard drives via 3 physical drives.
Supports RAID 0, RAID 1 Fault-tolerance System.
SoftSet™ Anti-Shock Protection Architecture.
Modular DVD, CD-RW, COMBO (DVD/CD-RW) and/or 2x Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW (fully upgradeable to 4x and 8x units as available).
Audio: Virtual 6 channels audio output; DirectSound 3D Accelerator; Virtual AC3; Digital S/PDIF Connectivity.
Connectivity: Gigabit LAN ; 802.11g Turbo (108 Mbps) Wireless LAN; Bluetooth; 56K V90/V92 modem.
6-in-1 Card Reader Module.
Ports: 1x DVI; 1x RJ45; 4x USB 2.0; 1x IEEE1394; 2x S-Video In/Out (with TV tuner); 1x LPT; 1x COM/Serial; 1x IrDA 1.1; 1x PS/2.
Optional accessories: * internal TV Tuner with S-video and coax video-in,, * 12V Car inverter.
The all-new Hollywood GOLD Series will be released March 10th, 2004 with up to a 3 years enterprise extended warranty. Price and specs subject to changes without notice until release of final production model.

This is the same company that makes these crazy setups:

einsatz

ummm... perhaps you've not heard of the Sony Vaio X505?


http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow/0,239...=127015,00.asp
http://www.kemplar.com/sonyu3_ts.htm

srika

I've heard of it.. but for my main purposes (audio and graphics) a 10.4" screen = - 15.4" is great, 17" is marginal overkill...

srika

I should have clarified, I meant a PC laptop with a large screen...

phil2

that monitor is pimp!!

einsatz

Aahh. Yeah X505 is probably not the right choice in either display or processing power
Still a pimp rig

KavexTrax

go-l is a bad place to order: check out their reviews at www.resellerratings.com

These resellers are basically rebadging notebooks made by a particular manufacturer.
Dirty little secret of the laptop industry: http://www.powernotebooks.com/articles/Name_Brand.php3

Try these guys here powernotebooks.com , pctorque.com , sagernotebook.com for less
than what Go-L charges.

srika

oh sux.. thx 4 the tip.. so do you know who actually makes these laptops? I mean, where then, can I get this same laptop, for cheaper?

srika

I checked the reviews at resellerratings.com - there's 1 review, total. it's a pretty bad one, but I don't think 1 is a good samplebase? am I missing something?

http://www.resellerratings.com/seller7140-p1-s1-d1.html

srika

yep - in an ideal world I would have a large screen laptop such as the one above, and an X505 for ultra-portability.

JLai

Whats wrong with a 17" screen?

Mine does become a hassle to carry around though.

Come to think of it...I should just start using a desktop again.

This is why -->

KavexTrax

powernotebooks.com , pctorque.com , sagernotebook.com

Well Go-L also charges crazy dough for all of their systems, has little to no ratings on the resellerratings.com page, so I wouldnt even bother....

Try notebookforums.com or notebookreview.com for research. You'll spend more time there than reading if youre in the market for a notebook.

KavexTrax

btw, I dont believe anyone makes a WUXGA screen for 15.4" EXCEPT Dell Inspiron & Latitude,
and maybe Fujitsu. But I doubt that you'd want to use 1920 x 1200 on a tiny 15.4"

KCPreki11

I talked to Beezlebub about this, he has the 15.4" WUXGA and says he loves it. But I have also heard it's hard to work w/ on a day to day basis. As of now i'm going to also go w/ the WUXGA.

JLai

Those bitches are so bias. All they'll tell you is go buy a Sager.

KavexTrax

take a very good look between WUXGA vs WSXGA here:

http://notebookforums.com/showpost.p...70&postcount=3

scroll about one-third down

KavexTrax

Re: Alienware
You my friend have a nice paint job/case version of the ODM Clevo.
Sager is simply a North American vendor/reseller. So much for hypocrisy eh?

soopa

theres plenty of thin/light pc notebooks with more processor power than a mac.....

JLai

That I already knew when I bought it. I read those forums for about a month, researching. However...there are a few differences. The Alienwares USED to be like the VoodooPC, Go-l, etc. **back in the m1** The m2 is different. For instance...if it was the same, then why isn't the videocard user swappable in the other laptops? I realize they are similiar. But they are indeed different...the case is just one thing. Whether it was worth the price different, thats a different story. I got one cause I could.

JLai

Honestly, if I had to do it all over again...I'd go ThinkPad all the way.

KavexTrax

Hey whatever works for ya...

I'm just looking for the lightest mofo w/ DVI outputs and SPDIF outputs and a nice 15.4" WSXGA screen. Acer Inspire 8000 won't do crappy concaved keyboard, what a waste.

srika

plenty of PC laptops with 15.4" and 17" screens, 1" thick, under 5.5lbs, and as robust as the ones I posted above? where????

nandowong

sony's carbon fiber laptop is sick

proaudio22

Why are you even looking at a Centrino based laptop then?

KavexTrax

someone mention audio and graphics?

http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=24615

http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=23858

srika

I don't understand this question. Centrino systems are more than capable of handling audio and graphics. The high-end Centrino's are killer. Hell I've been using a 10-lb brick Dell 2650 P4-1.7GHz laptop for over a year now, and it's been fine with audio and graphics - it's only got a 30gb drive but guess what, if you manage your files efficiently, that is PLENTY. I only have the projects I'm working on copied on the laptop at anytime - my master drives are the ones on my home PC's - and a full song project typically is about ~1GB. I've noticed with the more intensive effects processing where I have like 50+ effects running, it shows signs of fatigue, but any new Centrino will kill it in terms of processing power and speed. I mean seriously it will be almost effortless...

It's not like I need an "HT" laptop setup to work on audio on a laptop - sure the onboard sound that came with the 2650 sucked ass, but I upgraded to an Echo Indigo DJ PCMCIA audio interface, which makes it sound as good as my main desktop machine (running a M-Audio Delta-66 audio interface, in case you're wondering). So - it's not like the quality of audio is an issue. Other reasons I am leaning towards Centrino are the extended battery life, built-in wi-fi, Bluetooth, and all that portability stuff etc.

Incidentally, for me the great purpose of a laptop is when I'm on the road and want to work on tunes. I commute almost 2 hours a day by train so it's VERY handy and I get a LOT done.

srika

srika

wow nice setups. esp the hard drives on the 1st one... insane.

like I said above though, you don't necessarily NEED a setup as crazy as this to make music on a laptop... I get by fine with my 1.7GHz, 512mb, 32mb video, 30gb brick... of course I want faster, bigger, better, but point is, it's really just a luxury to upgrade from what I have right now.... also will result in greater productivity though.

srika

wow nice setups. esp the hard drives on the 1st one... insane.

like I said above though, you don't necessarily NEED a setup as crazy as this to make music on a laptop... I get by fine with my 1.7GHz, 512mb, 32mb video, 30gb brick... of course I want faster, bigger, better, but point is, it's really just a luxury to upgrade from what I have right now.... also will result in greater productivity though.

srika

wow nice setups. esp the hard drives on the 1st one... insane.

like I said above though, you don't necessarily NEED a setup as crazy as this to make music on a laptop... I get by fine with my 1.7GHz, 512mb, 32mb video, 30gb brick... of course I want faster, bigger, better, but point is, it's really just a luxury to upgrade from what I have right now.... also will result in greater productivity though.

Doc.Booty

Extremely pimp (1.7 pounds ). Too bad there's no internal optical drive.

That's barely more portable than my SFF + LCD Great for LAN parties if you can afford to buy a $3k laptop every few years to upgrade.

JLai

I bought it as a desktop replacement. Always had a desktop so that was what I was used to/preferred. But being in med school, I needed something I could move to school but just keep at my apt...so I got the next best thing.

CLovis

holy bajeezus