Dell's new widescreen 20.1" LCD monitor
#41
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Originally Posted by srika
I read somewhere that 1920x1200 was "true" HD resolution...
Discuss.
Discuss.
Anything over 720x480 is considered to be HD resolution for NTSC standards.
I was speaking on aspect ratios specifically. You could make a SD 16:9 picture. and or a HD 4:3 picture.
I'd much rather game 16:9 then 4:3 anyday...
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Originally Posted by rise
id definately want to buy this monitor, but what would I do with an extra 19" CRT?
srika
more info than you will ever need
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Originally Posted by Python2121
well looks like i know my christmas present to myself
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Originally Posted by srika
cool... after you get it, you can give us a review and measure its PPI and all that good jazz... kthx ![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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just wait a few days for tomshardware to review it
actually, im still thinking about the 2001fp just for its native resolution
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Originally Posted by Python2121
ha
just wait a few days for tomshardware to review it
actually, im still thinking about the 2001fp just for its native resolution
just wait a few days for tomshardware to review it
actually, im still thinking about the 2001fp just for its native resolution
j/k
I hear you on the 2001fp... I had one for a week, returned it because it does some funky stuff in between the pixels.. there is like this black area... you don't get flat color on that monitor like you do with the 2000FP... you do get 16ms response time, but to me color is more important than response time...
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Originally Posted by srika
but its funner when you do it...
j/k
I hear you on the 2001fp... I had one for a week, returned it because it does some funky stuff in between the pixels.. there is like this black area... you don't get flat color on that monitor like you do with the 2000FP... you do get 16ms response time, but to me color is more important than response time...![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
j/k
I hear you on the 2001fp... I had one for a week, returned it because it does some funky stuff in between the pixels.. there is like this black area... you don't get flat color on that monitor like you do with the 2000FP... you do get 16ms response time, but to me color is more important than response time...
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what do you mean about the colors?
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I like my ViewSonic 21" CRT...the way it takes up my entire desk and has the same curb weight as my Maxima. ![:O](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/embarrassment.gif)
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I have a 21" CRT and it's the size of a fucking TV
I can't believe the desk it is on is holding it.
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btw that went in my AIM profile, that's fucking funny.
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Originally Posted by ViperrepiV
what do you mean about the colors?
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get this monitor for $599!!!!!
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...=04&l=en&s=bsd
$200 off, with coupon code SGS8?T0JFVF1CR
Dell 2005FPW 20in widescreen Digital LCD Flat Panel 600:1 contrast ratio, 12ms response, DVI, Svideo, Composite Video $599
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...=04&l=en&s=bsd
$200 off, with coupon code SGS8?T0JFVF1CR
Dell 2005FPW 20in widescreen Digital LCD Flat Panel 600:1 contrast ratio, 12ms response, DVI, Svideo, Composite Video $599
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Someone get that for my birthday/xmas!!
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Response Time (typical): 12ms grey-to-grey, 16ms black-to-white
Cool display, but I agree some games might not support the native res. on it. But from what I have read the screen with scale 1600x1200 down to it's native res.
I know a lot of games support custom resoutions though.
Cool display, but I agree some games might not support the native res. on it. But from what I have read the screen with scale 1600x1200 down to it's native res.
I know a lot of games support custom resoutions though.
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Originally Posted by srika
not a bad deal... the resolution is almost perfect for HD and it has a 12ms response time, great for gaming... if I didn't have 2 2000FP's already I would buy this in a heartbeat... considering swapping one of those out for this - the only thing stopping me is that this has a lower screen area (compared to 1600x1200 on the 2000FP).... hmm... I probably won't do it... but this is great for anyone that has been waiting to get an LCD....
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/P...ctlisting.aspx
DELL
UltraSharp 2005FPW 20.1-inch Flat Panel LCD Monitor
with Height Adjustable Stand
$679.15
![](http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/images/products/large/320-4111.jpg)
Viewable Size: 20.1"
Display Type: Flat Panel Display / Active Matrix TFT - Desktop
Depth: 9"
Features: Automatic Setup Adjustment, Kensington Lock Slot, 100 mm VESA Mounting, Height Adjustable Stand Included
Height: Compressed: 15.3", Extended: 22.4"
Weight: 17.64 lbs
Width: 18.6"
Image Max H-View Angle: ±88°
Image Max V-View Angle: ±88°
Color Support: 16.7 Million
Connectivity Technology: Cable
Device Type: Flat Panel LCD Monitor with Height Adjustable Stand
Dimensions (WxDxH) / Weight: 18.6" x 9" x 15.3" to 22.4" / 17.64 lbs
Enclosure Color: Midnight Gray
Image Aspect Ratio: 16:10
Image Brightness: 300 cd/m²
Image Contrast Ratio: 600:1
Max Resolution: 1680x1050 Pixels
Max Sync Rate (V x H): 75 Hz x 83 kHz
Port(s) Total ( Free ) / Connector Type: VGA / DVI-D / S-video / Composite / 4 x USB 2.0
Power Consumption Operational: 75 W (maximum), 55 W (typical)
Diagonal Size / Viewable Size: 20 / 20.1"
Compatibility: PC
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/P...ctlisting.aspx
DELL
UltraSharp 2005FPW 20.1-inch Flat Panel LCD Monitor
with Height Adjustable Stand
$679.15
![](http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/images/products/large/320-4111.jpg)
Viewable Size: 20.1"
Display Type: Flat Panel Display / Active Matrix TFT - Desktop
Depth: 9"
Features: Automatic Setup Adjustment, Kensington Lock Slot, 100 mm VESA Mounting, Height Adjustable Stand Included
Height: Compressed: 15.3", Extended: 22.4"
Weight: 17.64 lbs
Width: 18.6"
Image Max H-View Angle: ±88°
Image Max V-View Angle: ±88°
Color Support: 16.7 Million
Connectivity Technology: Cable
Device Type: Flat Panel LCD Monitor with Height Adjustable Stand
Dimensions (WxDxH) / Weight: 18.6" x 9" x 15.3" to 22.4" / 17.64 lbs
Enclosure Color: Midnight Gray
Image Aspect Ratio: 16:10
Image Brightness: 300 cd/m²
Image Contrast Ratio: 600:1
Max Resolution: 1680x1050 Pixels
Max Sync Rate (V x H): 75 Hz x 83 kHz
Port(s) Total ( Free ) / Connector Type: VGA / DVI-D / S-video / Composite / 4 x USB 2.0
Power Consumption Operational: 75 W (maximum), 55 W (typical)
Diagonal Size / Viewable Size: 20 / 20.1"
Compatibility: PC
I just ordered one
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but this is for a small business account right?
Originally Posted by srika
get this monitor for $599!!!!!
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...=04&l=en&s=bsd
$200 off, with coupon code SGS8?T0JFVF1CR
Dell 2005FPW 20in widescreen Digital LCD Flat Panel 600:1 contrast ratio, 12ms response, DVI, Svideo, Composite Video $599
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...=04&l=en&s=bsd
$200 off, with coupon code SGS8?T0JFVF1CR
Dell 2005FPW 20in widescreen Digital LCD Flat Panel 600:1 contrast ratio, 12ms response, DVI, Svideo, Composite Video $599
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What about this: http://www.viewsonic.com/products/de...series/vp201b/
Check the SPECS out on that! Very Bright 400nit 12ms !
Check the SPECS out on that! Very Bright 400nit 12ms !
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One of the advantages of an LCD is that is can display ANY resolution, higher or lower than it's native. So really you can run whatever the heck resolution you want. The quality of the LCD and it's processing determins whether this looks good or not. My sisters laptop looks like poo if you stray too far from it's native, but my 19" hardly changes at all. With an A or B screen and a good Genisis chip, you shouldn't have any problems.
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Originally Posted by proaudio22
One of the advantages of an LCD is that is can display ANY resolution, higher or lower than it's native. So really you can run whatever the heck resolution you want. The quality of the LCD and it's processing determins whether this looks good or not. My sisters laptop looks like poo if you stray too far from it's native, but my 19" hardly changes at all. With an A or B screen and a good Genisis chip, you shouldn't have any problems.
Also I don't think you can display "any resolution" you want on an LCD... I have a Radeon 9800 that will do up to 2048x1536 - but only goes as high as 1600x1200 (native on the LCD) in display properties...
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and oh yeah run DVI and ClearType on that LCD whenever possible.
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Originally Posted by proaudio22
One of the advantages of an LCD is that is can display ANY resolution, higher or lower than it's native. So really you can run whatever the heck resolution you want. The quality of the LCD and it's processing determins whether this looks good or not. My sisters laptop looks like poo if you stray too far from it's native, but my 19" hardly changes at all. With an A or B screen and a good Genisis chip, you shouldn't have any problems.
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The LCD panel itself has a set resolution, but you should be able to feed the processing part of the screen anything you want. Whether or not it looks good depends on the quality of the chip. This is done all the time with projectors, as it only deals with the max resolution of the signal. We use $$$ scalers to bump all the images to the same resolution so they can be switched, but the built in processing in most of the projectors is just as good. The processing in the Samsung LCD TVs we've been playing with is also quite good. Computer monitor manufacturers simply want to reduce costs on the units and it's cheaper to have the customer use the native resolution and cheap out on the processing.
CRTs don't "scale" as they don't have any set resolution, only a max capable size based on the dot pitch. The resolution can be anything as it's simply made up by the dots of the scanning beam.
EDIT: My LCD's native resolution is 1280x1024, and it looks like shit. 1152x864 just happens to be the magic number the screen likes.
CRTs don't "scale" as they don't have any set resolution, only a max capable size based on the dot pitch. The resolution can be anything as it's simply made up by the dots of the scanning beam.
EDIT: My LCD's native resolution is 1280x1024, and it looks like shit. 1152x864 just happens to be the magic number the screen likes.
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LCDs are much better on the eyes! CRTs dry them and so you'll have to hydrate yourself.
The cost alone of seeing an optometrist just after two visits could motivate you to get an LCD!
Especially those with hard contact lenses.
And better yet, very maintenance free. No more dust attracting static from CRTs!!
The cost alone of seeing an optometrist just after two visits could motivate you to get an LCD!
Especially those with hard contact lenses.
And better yet, very maintenance free. No more dust attracting static from CRTs!!
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Originally Posted by Gilgamesh
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Much easier on the eyes...no more eye strain headaches after I went LCD.
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http://www.viewsonic.com/products/de...series/vp912b/
Should be in next week!
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