Technology Get the latest on technology, electronics and software…

Chromecast, Airtime or Roku HDMI

Thread Tools
 
Old 01-07-2015, 10:12 AM
  #41  
Team Owner
 
Doom878's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Miami, FL
Age: 45
Posts: 27,883
Received 1,287 Likes on 952 Posts
^Yes. An alternative to cable
Old 01-07-2015, 11:08 AM
  #42  
Burning Brakes
iTrader: (1)
 
screaminz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Age: 44
Posts: 1,217
Received 281 Likes on 190 Posts
I think that Sling option is by Dish. If it would include SEC network, I'd go for it. It has ESPN and ESPN2, but missing SEC. I doubt they will include it since SEC is so damn expensive, but I'd drop cable in a heartbeat if I could get that. I have a cable bill soley for college football, and it's not worth the hassle of canceling service when football isn't on.

Hell, if the networks ever get smart and go DIRECT - that will disrupt cable tv big time. If they can deliver me it IP, why have cable at all? I'll pay ESPN direct for theirs, TNT, USA, etc. They could probably charge a tad more vs. what they charge the cable provider as well. Then again, they don't have the infrastructure, ec.
Old 01-07-2015, 12:59 PM
  #43  
350
My first ricer
iTrader: (4)
 
350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Willow Grove, PA
Posts: 1,521
Received 256 Likes on 211 Posts
Originally Posted by screaminz28
I think that Sling option is by Dish. If it would include SEC network, I'd go for it. It has ESPN and ESPN2, but missing SEC. I doubt they will include it since SEC is so damn expensive, but I'd drop cable in a heartbeat if I could get that. I have a cable bill soley for college football, and it's not worth the hassle of canceling service when football isn't on.

Hell, if the networks ever get smart and go DIRECT - that will disrupt cable tv big time. If they can deliver me it IP, why have cable at all? I'll pay ESPN direct for theirs, TNT, USA, etc. They could probably charge a tad more vs. what they charge the cable provider as well. Then again, they don't have the infrastructure, ec.
Find a friend to share their logon for Comcast/Fios etc and use the Watch ESPN app. I use my dad's password for ESPN and HBO, all the ESPN stuff is live and streams fine.
The following users liked this post:
justnspace (01-07-2015)
Old 01-07-2015, 01:02 PM
  #44  
Team Owner
 
Doom878's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Miami, FL
Age: 45
Posts: 27,883
Received 1,287 Likes on 952 Posts
Dish is pretty ballsy doing this. ESPN alone charges like $6 per customer to them while the other networks charge less than $1.50. Plus they'll cannibalize their subscriber base.
Old 01-07-2015, 01:31 PM
  #45  
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
 
maharajamd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 13,382
Received 1,544 Likes on 1,197 Posts
They want to be the first to offer sports "a la carte". Either a really good move or a really bad one.

Reading around on the Sling thing revealed there will be limitations though. That's why I want to see the specifics.

If I could have get ESPN and AMC real time, I would drop cable tonight.
Old 01-07-2015, 01:50 PM
  #46  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
who ever does "a la carte" first, i'm jumping aboard.

lookin like HBO
Old 01-07-2015, 02:00 PM
  #47  
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
 
maharajamd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 13,382
Received 1,544 Likes on 1,197 Posts
Premium != sports though. And sports is what it's all about.
Old 01-07-2015, 03:20 PM
  #48  
Team Owner
 
Doom878's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Miami, FL
Age: 45
Posts: 27,883
Received 1,287 Likes on 952 Posts
Exactly. Sports is really hard to not know who wins in this day and age. You can avoid show spoilers but if you're a sports fan and don't have a DVR, you're toast.
Old 01-07-2015, 10:40 PM
  #49  
Moderator
 
Mizouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 39
Posts: 63,178
Received 2,773 Likes on 1,976 Posts
Originally Posted by screaminz28
I think that Sling option is by Dish.
wait sling box got bought out by Dish? damn when did that happen?

been meaning to pick up one of those.
Old 01-08-2015, 04:59 AM
  #50  
Burning Brakes
iTrader: (1)
 
screaminz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Age: 44
Posts: 1,217
Received 281 Likes on 190 Posts
Originally Posted by 350
Find a friend to share their logon for Comcast/Fios etc and use the Watch ESPN app. I use my dad's password for ESPN and HBO, all the ESPN stuff is live and streams fine.
I really want a 10 ft UI that is designed properly. Do any of the TV boxes support Watch ESPN? I know I can get it on Android, but Android/Google TV still seems a tad half baked. I have an MK808 that I gave my dad so he can connect to my Plex server to watch shows he doesn't get. I may consider this if the UI improves a bit.
Old 01-08-2015, 07:06 AM
  #51  
Team Owner
 
Doom878's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Miami, FL
Age: 45
Posts: 27,883
Received 1,287 Likes on 952 Posts
I'm not touching a Google/Android box until they get there shit together. Chromecast is fine but for a box Roku is pretty badass channels-wise. I believe they have WatchESPN also.
Old 01-08-2015, 03:43 PM
  #52  
350
My first ricer
iTrader: (4)
 
350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Willow Grove, PA
Posts: 1,521
Received 256 Likes on 211 Posts
Originally Posted by screaminz28
I really want a 10 ft UI that is designed properly. Do any of the TV boxes support Watch ESPN? I know I can get it on Android, but Android/Google TV still seems a tad half baked. I have an MK808 that I gave my dad so he can connect to my Plex server to watch shows he doesn't get. I may consider this if the UI improves a bit.
Amazon Fire has ESPN also but I haven't tried it yet to see if it works any smoother. Really the only difference I notice is that it doesn't play all of the commercials, it'll go to a gray screen saying commercials in progress, then back tot he show, I guess if they don't pay extra for it to be on there too.
Old 02-19-2015, 11:06 AM
  #53  
Team Owner
iTrader: (15)
 
Flipster23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 35,747
Received 2,334 Likes on 1,962 Posts
So bringing this topic back up.

Decided to finally get NetFlix, yes I know, pretty late. Trying to eliminate my cable bill. First my TV is not a Smart TV, I believe I bought my TV right before the Samsung Smart TV came out. I was going to use Netflix from my Xbox 360, but I have the older version (don't play video games anymore) and that would require the wireless adapter. Have a blu-ray but heard that it's kind lame on the blu-ray because you have to go on your computer and add things to "queue"

So I'm looking into a dongle.
- ChromeCast
- Roku
- Amazon Fire - Fire TV stick (?)

It will be mainly used for Netflix, and since I have a toddler maybe like the Dinsey app. Once I get the whole Netflix thing down I may eliminate my TV bill or at least drop my package down.

Would a Chromecast fit my needs or should I go for the Roku?
Old 02-19-2015, 11:32 AM
  #54  
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
 
maharajamd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 13,382
Received 1,544 Likes on 1,197 Posts
If you are replacing cable my recommendation would be to avoid a "stick". Spend a little more for a lot more horsepower.

So buy a legit Roku or FireTV.
Old 02-19-2015, 11:40 AM
  #55  
Team Owner
iTrader: (15)
 
Flipster23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 35,747
Received 2,334 Likes on 1,962 Posts
I may get the Amazon Fire TV. Can anyone confirm that has the Amazon Fire, are you able to use the apps if you don't have a cable provider? Was talking to a coworker and he was saying with his Roku 2, he can't watch ESPN, because he does not have cable at his home.

Also, what NetFlix package do you guys have? The $7.99 (Basic) $8.99 (Standard) or the $11.99 (premium)
Old 02-19-2015, 11:43 AM
  #56  
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
 
maharajamd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 13,382
Received 1,544 Likes on 1,197 Posts
ESPN? No. Sports is primarily all that is holding cable afloat. The big new thing that just came out is the Sling.tv service which has ESPN included. That app is coming very soon to the FireTV. $20 a month for like a dozen channels including Disney and ESPN.

ESPN, ESPN2, TNT, TBS, Food Network, HGTV, Travel Channel, Cartoon Network/Adult Swim, Disney Channel, ABC Family, CNN, El Rey Network, Maker, Galavision, AMC (coming soon)
I prefer the FireTV over the others but some people like the diversity in content the Roku brings to the table.
Old 02-19-2015, 11:49 AM
  #57  
Team Owner
iTrader: (15)
 
Flipster23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 35,747
Received 2,334 Likes on 1,962 Posts
Oh shit. I may have to go ahead and get that then.

It seems like Disney and HGTV is included in that. That's probably the only things that come on our TV currently.
Old 02-19-2015, 11:51 AM
  #58  
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
 
maharajamd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 13,382
Received 1,544 Likes on 1,197 Posts
Yea man it's a pretty solid lineup. Especially if/when they ever add AMC.

That + Netflix + Amazon Prime and you're set.
Old 02-19-2015, 12:31 PM
  #59  
Team Owner
 
Doom878's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Miami, FL
Age: 45
Posts: 27,883
Received 1,287 Likes on 952 Posts
Flipster, does it have to be a dongle? Just buy a really long HDMI cable and connect your laptop to the TV. I haven't had cable for 2 years and have used that unless it's on Netflix via my PS3. The sling.tv service will fill your sports needs but be forewarned you can only use it one source at a time with each subscription but you didn't mention anything about add'l TV's.

Yes many of the apps don't imply free service. I have a Roku in the kids' room so that they can watch Disney XD but I use their mom's login since she has cable. Most network providers (ABC, NBC, FOX, CBS) will show the last few episodes free with no subsciption required.

Oh and if you want to Fire or Stick $50 off

https://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.ht...cId=1002997141

Last edited by Doom878; 02-19-2015 at 12:39 PM.
Old 02-19-2015, 01:05 PM
  #60  
Team Owner
iTrader: (15)
 
Flipster23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 35,747
Received 2,334 Likes on 1,962 Posts
Originally Posted by Doom878
Flipster, does it have to be a dongle? Just buy a really long HDMI cable and connect your laptop to the TV. I haven't had cable for 2 years and have used that unless it's on Netflix via my PS3. The sling.tv service will fill your sports needs but be forewarned you can only use it one source at a time with each subscription but you didn't mention anything about add'l TV's.

Yes many of the apps don't imply free service. I have a Roku in the kids' room so that they can watch Disney XD but I use their mom's login since she has cable. Most network providers (ABC, NBC, FOX, CBS) will show the last few episodes free with no subsciption required.

Oh and if you want to Fire or Stick $50 off

https://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.ht...cId=1002997141

I've thought about doing the HDMI cable too. I've done it in the past for some show that didn't record on my DvR. Maybe I'll use the HDMI cable for a little bit while I decide on what I want to do.

I'm not so worried about the sports, I could always have my friends log in info. I'll probably just have it on my living room TV, bedroom TV, and playroom TV.
Old 02-19-2015, 01:23 PM
  #61  
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
 
maharajamd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 13,382
Received 1,544 Likes on 1,197 Posts
Let's be honest...no one wants to hookup a laptop or PC. These boxes are $100 or less for much more enjoyable experience.
Old 02-19-2015, 02:24 PM
  #62  
Team Owner
 
Doom878's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Miami, FL
Age: 45
Posts: 27,883
Received 1,287 Likes on 952 Posts
^Way to generalize. Just throwing out the option since budget is the main factor, thus cutting cable.
Old 02-19-2015, 02:52 PM
  #63  
Team Owner
iTrader: (15)
 
Flipster23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 35,747
Received 2,334 Likes on 1,962 Posts
I just feel that I'm paying too much for only watching 3 channels.
Old 02-19-2015, 02:59 PM
  #64  
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
 
maharajamd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 13,382
Received 1,544 Likes on 1,197 Posts
And that's the way a LOT of people feel. Thus #cutthecord
Old 02-19-2015, 03:08 PM
  #65  
Team Owner
iTrader: (15)
 
Flipster23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 35,747
Received 2,334 Likes on 1,962 Posts
Yea, I've realized i'm the only one not on Netflix in my unit.
Old 02-19-2015, 04:37 PM
  #66  
Team Owner
iTrader: (15)
 
Flipster23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 35,747
Received 2,334 Likes on 1,962 Posts
So after doing some reviews for the past 3 hours.

I've decided to go with the Roku 3 for the main living room and get a chromecast for the bedroom. Thanks for everyone's input.
Old 03-18-2015, 01:36 PM
  #67  
Team Owner
 
Doom878's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Miami, FL
Age: 45
Posts: 27,883
Received 1,287 Likes on 952 Posts
If you have a PS4 or PS3 another cable alternative is Vue. Pretty pricy at $50/month but more options than Sling but no ESPN/ABC. Coming to iPad soon.

Sony's Vue Streaming Service Sure Is Slick?And Pricey | WIRED
Old 03-18-2015, 01:40 PM
  #68  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
the shield set top box looks interesting too.
Old 03-18-2015, 01:58 PM
  #69  
Team Owner
iTrader: (15)
 
Flipster23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 35,747
Received 2,334 Likes on 1,962 Posts
Update:

I love these things...

Roku 4 is supposedly coming out now too, so the 3 is even cheaper.
Old 03-19-2015, 07:11 AM
  #70  
Team Owner
 
Doom878's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Miami, FL
Age: 45
Posts: 27,883
Received 1,287 Likes on 952 Posts
Anyone mess with Kodi, formerly XBMC?
Old 03-19-2015, 07:38 AM
  #71  
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
 
maharajamd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 13,382
Received 1,544 Likes on 1,197 Posts
Originally Posted by Doom878
Anyone mess with Kodi, formerly XBMC?
That's what I am running on my rooted FireTV. What's up?
Old 03-19-2015, 10:45 AM
  #72  
Team Owner
 
Doom878's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Miami, FL
Age: 45
Posts: 27,883
Received 1,287 Likes on 952 Posts
I had XBMC a few months ago and was using Mashup which is dead now. Do I have to redownload the software or will XMBC update? Which plug-ins are you running? And how fast do they upload after being broadcast? I Looooooove Popcorn Time but it takes a day to see new episodes.
Old 03-19-2015, 10:56 AM
  #73  
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
 
maharajamd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 13,382
Received 1,544 Likes on 1,197 Posts
Originally Posted by Doom878
I had XBMC a few months ago and was using Mashup which is dead now. Do I have to redownload the software or will XMBC update? Which plug-ins are you running? And how fast do they upload after being broadcast? I Looooooove Popcorn Time but it takes a day to see new episodes.
I'm not sure I follow. You will need to update to Kodi manually.

I've never used any of those plugins. I download everything I watch and then archive. I can usually grab things minutes after they have aired. Sometimes even before. But I have no idea about Mashup.

The only real reason I use XBMC is for the eye candy it can provide easily with meta data. If that wasn't there I would literally go back to a Western Digital TV.
Old 03-19-2015, 12:29 PM
  #74  
Team Owner
 
Doom878's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Miami, FL
Age: 45
Posts: 27,883
Received 1,287 Likes on 952 Posts
Yeah I don't care for manually downloading torrents so using the Plug Ins in XBMC or Popcorn Time make it more "just click to play". The quality is fine and I don't care to keep the shows.
Old 03-25-2015, 03:43 PM
  #75  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,887
Received 8,584 Likes on 6,630 Posts
Also for those asking Sling.tv is NOT equal to Sling devices (aka slingbox etc..)

I learned that misconception today. Sling.com is sling.tv, slingbox.com is slingdevices.

Two different companies that just happen to use a similar name :/ And now they don't inter-operate either.
Old 06-26-2015, 09:51 AM
  #76  
Q('.')=O
iTrader: (1)
 
imj0257's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: DFW, TX
Age: 40
Posts: 23,508
Received 720 Likes on 520 Posts
Alrighty, my turn to ask.

We currently have Uverse and our subscription expires in a a few weeks. We had the discounted deal for the first year but the second year we are paying about $200/month for all our stuff.

I'm looking at getting internet only + Sling TV (+ sports package). We already have a Roku... plus Sling is giving a Roku stick for free if you sign up. The $20/month no contract sounds great. It does have a bunch of channels we watch but I also hope it had a few others ie: USA, NBCSN.

Anyone have reviews with their Sling TV experience? And to get local channels I heard the best thing to do would be to get a new antenna.. and we should even be able to get them in HD.

Also, if I have the Roku on one TV and the Roku stick in a second TV, can we watch different Sling TV channels at the same time? I think I saw on here you can't if you are using the same account..
Old 06-26-2015, 10:31 AM
  #77  
Team Owner
 
Doom878's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Miami, FL
Age: 45
Posts: 27,883
Received 1,287 Likes on 952 Posts
You might be limited on number of TV's using Sling. Not sure how lax they are.

As for antennas, I'd probably buy a few and just keep the one that works best for each room.

Lastly, if you go to cancel Uverse they'll probably cut you a good deal anyways if you speak to their retention dept.
Old 06-26-2015, 03:41 PM
  #78  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,887
Received 8,584 Likes on 6,630 Posts
Don't think you can simultaneously watch two shows at the same time using Sling.

As logn as you have one of the newer TV's with built in digital tuner, a regular antenna will be more than enough for regular HD digital OTA channels.
Old 07-15-2015, 01:02 PM
  #79  
Senior Moderator
 
oo7spy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 31,897
Received 7,244 Likes on 4,855 Posts
I'm looking for the most cost effective way to stream movies from iTunes to a TV. Using Handbrake, I have ripped all of the kids' DVDs onto the MacBook Air and imported them to iTunes. Since it's an Air, I would have to spend money on the HDMI adapter to plug in, and I really don't like the computer being within reach of the kids. That has me looking for an alternative to plugging in.

For those of you who have used the Chromecast, would that cover my needs? I assume I would be playing the movie on the computer and streaming the screen to the Chromecast? Is there a better alternative for less than $50?
Old 07-15-2015, 01:12 PM
  #80  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,887
Received 8,584 Likes on 6,630 Posts
It's tough from iTunes/a computer. I used to have good luck opening (.mkv files from legally obtained websites of course :rollseyes in Chrome then casting the tab to Chromecast.


AppleTV would be the most seamless option since they are in iTunes to be honest.. I got a used one a months back for 50 bucks though.


Quick Reply: Chromecast, Airtime or Roku HDMI



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:27 AM.