The Dougler

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I don't give a shit about 3d tv, in fact i'm hoping it flops like lazer disc.

#1 STUNNA

Here's another interesting device. From MSI it's basically a dual screen netbook



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http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/m...ader-hands-on/

#1 STUNNA

video from the MS keynote is here if anyone wants to watch it. IDK what they'll announce, I'm not expecting much

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/events/ces/

#1 STUNNA

and there wasn't much. project natal will be out for holiday season 2010,some HP slate device which they showed for like 10 seconds and that's really it. I'm pretty interested in project natal I may actually buy a 360 when it comes out.

Shalooby

Damn, they hyped up this big tablet reveal then nothing? And you wonder why they have a bad rap.

#1 STUNNA

no one has hyped anything about an MS tablet except for the courier but it's existence has been denied by CEO steve ballmer all it is right now is a prototype at best. All the hype is for the Apple tablet which is supposedly being announced on Jan 27th

#1 STUNNA

Dell's got a 27in monitor coming out that's the same screen in the new iMac but doesn't have a glossy display, this maybe my new monitor since there's hardly anything happening with OLED this year. It'll be $1049 avail next month



http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/d...cd-monitor-ha/

Mizouse

this is old news.

iirc i posted it somewhere but im to lazy to search.

#1 STUNNA

you rumored about it but this the first actual sighting/semi-review

Mizouse

iirc, it wasnt a rumor, i believe it was on engadet a while back, said it would be announced at CES.

ohh well

i want to see one in person, but

stogie1020

Well, Darren in North Carolina managed to get one...

Anachostic

That bastard always gets the good stuff first.

JediMindTricks

i don't really care for 3d tv either.

i've seen movies in 3d, but most don't really impress me enough to want to buy a 3d tv. of course, some movies in 3d are better than others and the price of a 3d tv is most likely to make not even consider one as an option.

that said, i thought i heard something about 3d tvs without the glasses? i really wouldn't want to wear glasses all the time. especially when my contacts are out and i have to wear glasses over glasses.

#1 STUNNA

Here's a live feed from the CES show floor, hosted by leo laporte and think he's a little drunk

http://live.twit.tv/

doopstr

It's amazing people still pay for office at these prices

JediMindTricks

but how else would people get it?

i can get a corporate discount, but it's still > $100.

i got my current version (at home) from torrent.

or i guess you can get it for really cheap if you're in school.

#1 STUNNA

Most people use office for work and therefore your job pays for it and just like everything else targeted towards businesses they charge more. If you're a student you can get office for $60 and MS will also be releasing a FREE version of Office 2010 that will be included on most PCs, it's called Office 2010 Starter and it will be ad supported and it only includes Word and Excel. they're also be a free web version of Word, Excel, Powerpoint and One note. I think most people will use the free versions

Mizouse

yea ive started using free versions of software.

too lazy to torrent it and hacktivate stuff if needed..

JediMindTricks

right, but i'm just saying that there are still a lot of folks out there that will pay the extra $$ because their companies won't pay for office at home, aren't students, don't know about the free versions, etc.

it is almost shocking to see how much people will pay for it, but they'll still pay for it.

#1 STUNNA

I'll probably get the home and professional edition if I can't get the academic edition. Office is essential software for businesses, people rely on it to make a living so it seems fair that they can charge a decent price for it. When you compare it to the price of photoshop or the other adobe products it's a deal. Photoshop is over $600 for just it, you can get the full version of Office for less than that. hence why everyone steals photoshop

Billiam

From the employer's perspective, it's probably not a financial matter as a majority of Microsoft's volume licensing agreements come with work-at-home rights for Office. If people are privately paying for Office to do work at home, then it's either because they aren't aware of what their options are or their employers don't allow them to install corporate-licensed software at home.

FWIW, I don't think Office is that expensive.

JediMindTricks

obviously, it depends on the company.

my company won't "buy" office for our home computers. we get a "corporate discount" or they (the company) will install it on our laptops.

for the typical user at home that just needs word, excel, and ppt, i don't think the price is that expensive either.

#1 STUNNA

Also the boxed copies of Office can be installed on more than one PC. The home and student can be used on 3 PCs and the home and business on 2PCs. So for $150 you can put it on 3PCs which is a pretty good deal.

GIBSON6594

<----Just got a package in the mail

SwervinCL

Not open to the general public.

Billiam

So far this is getting my vote for creepiest tech. demo of the show.

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JediMindTricks

oh ok. thanks.

brizey

Laserdisc flopped here, but it lasted quite a while in Japan.

brizey

Not too tough to get in, though.

I actually liked Cedia better. No computer stuff, but all the same consumer electronics stuff and you don't have to deal with Las Vegas (and its crappy airport). CES is too big. Not a great show when you are there for work. (I used to run a company that did home theater and home automation).

#1 STUNNA

I'm currently at the Apple store typing this on a 15 MBP (with the Matte screen option). Anyways, I just left the Sony Store where they had the 3DTV on display. I spent a good 5-10 minutes watching it and it was pretty neat. But I already got a headache (seriously) and the idea of wearing those glasses is pretty lame. They've got to come up with a way to do it without glasses.

These glasses where battery powered too which I haven't seen in 3D glasses before. The 3D was pretty good, it seems as if there were 3 depths of field. The first 2 were "3D" so to say and the last one was 2D, I guess once the object gets to far away from the 3D camera it doens't pop anymore. I guess it was a depth of field thing.

If you guys want to see it they should have it at your local sony store. I was hoping to see their new Core i3/i5 based laptops but they said it won't be until Feb 10th.

p.s. if I get a laptop it's gonna have a matte screen.
p.p.s. how do you scroll left and right with the multi-touch trackpad.

Sarlacc

Laserdisc didnt flop, it became a high end videophile media.

But no, it didnt not become huge with the masses.

SVHS...now that flopped. Digital VHS...also flop.

Sarlacc

3D is such a bullshit, flavor of the month gimmick.

The technology isnt anywhere near being "there" yet. Even Avatar proves that.

jupitersolo

People have too many problems with their eyes to watch it that much to have it at home, I hate the shit.

#1 STUNNA

Light Peak which is Intels 10Gbps interconnect should be on PCs within a year. Also Intel just announced WiDi which is a way to stream HD video from your PC to your TV using a $100 adapter box and a new PC with a Core i3/i5 processor. I guess this is for people who don't have a PS3 or an Xbox 360 or any other multitude of devices that you can stream HD video to from your PC.

stogie1020

Any infrastructure/routing devices to support this?

Also, has nothing to connect my TV to my __________ (insert anything) except the cable box and the DVR. I am wicked old school.

#1 STUNNA

I don't think any are needed. My impression is that you use the Wifi in the computer and it streams to some $100 device you connect to your TV which then takes the signal and converts it to HD. This similar to wireless HDMI but seems much less expensive.

stogie1020

Sorry, the first part was for the 10Gps Light Peak.

#1 STUNNA

Yup I was right



http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/i...ay-technology/

#1 STUNNA

Supposedly Apple is behind it and Sony and Nvidia are also partners, currently no devices yet. It won't launch for another year so expect stuff to start showing up after that.

stogie1020

Apple and Sony?

Should be easy to license that for use in other devices...