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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 01:11 PM
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SMB file sharing on iPad and it supports USB sticks.
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 01:12 PM
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 01:22 PM
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Ooo Mac Pro

looks nice but its gonna be so money
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 01:26 PM
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Can't wait to see what the new Mac Pro with 4 GPUs and 28core Xeon costs.
garbage can mac.
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 01:30 PM
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Base config probably starts at 8K
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 01:33 PM
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Wow...apple did it. They stood by their word to return to a true pro machine with modularity and upgradability. And they fucking NAILED IT.
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 01:36 PM
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10 bit HDR monitor...thats HUUUUUUUGE
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 01:37 PM
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32” 6K display


those bezels
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Base config probably starts at 8K
Starts at $5999
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 01:43 PM
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uh oh, charging for the monitor stand was a fail. groans...
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 01:43 PM
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$4999 for the monitor
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 01:44 PM
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$5999 for an 8-Core Xeon, 32GB Ram, Radeon Pro 580X and 256Gb ssd????

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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 01:46 PM
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MacOS Catalina
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 01:47 PM
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New Mac Pro

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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
$4999 for the monitor
Pretty cost comparable to other high end monitors with similars stats. Its very impressive.
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 01:59 PM
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Wish Apple had something modular between the Mac Mini and Mac Pro.

like the specs of the iMac but modular like the Mac Pro.
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 02:01 PM
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Good to hear re iPad. Going to tell my daughter. I saw the Pencil is opening up for 3rd party support too.
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 02:03 PM
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Yesss sidecar

no need for luna display
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Wish Apple had something modular between the Mac Mini and Mac Pro.

like the specs of the iMac but modular like the Mac Pro.
Oh shut up
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 03:39 PM
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You'll be hard pressed to find people at Apple who feel the display stand will be worth it for the money, but it is very, very nice. Completely smooth 360 degree rotation, without any detents. Honestly the Mac Pro and Display XDR are geared towards enterprise usage. I can say from experience it looks amazing, but really - 5k vs 6k at your typical viewing distances isn't a mind-blowing difference.
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Costco
You'll be hard pressed to find people at Apple who feel the display stand will be worth it for the money, but it is very, very nice. Completely smooth 360 degree rotation, without any detents. Honestly the Mac Pro and Display XDR are geared towards enterprise usage. I can say from experience it looks amazing, but really - 5k vs 6k at your typical viewing distances isn't a mind-blowing difference.
It’s more for fine detail photography or filmmaking where it does make a difference.
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 11:22 PM
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SMB file sharing on iPad and it supports USB sticks.
Wait...what?

you can create network shares on an iPad? If not, built in SMB client support is dope
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 11:26 PM
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It’s about being able to view 4K video at native resolution and still have 2k left for the Final Cut Pro UI
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 11:28 PM
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They’re really gouging you for that stand and vesa mount, hopefully something much more reasonable comes out. That stand isn’t worth more than $200
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Old Jun 4, 2019 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
It’s about being able to view 4K video at native resolution and still have 2k left for the Final Cut Pro UI
Yeah...thats not how it works...
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Old Jun 4, 2019 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
They’re really gouging you for that stand and vesa mount, hopefully something much more reasonable comes out. That stand isn’t worth more than $200
Wait for someone to print their own stand and sell it on eBay, Etsy, etc
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Old Jun 4, 2019 | 12:45 AM
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I think the price of the stand is a bonehead move on Apple's part...but I also think there was more engineering in the design of that stand than people want to give it credit for.

I also equate it to people who buy expensive gear but then can't fathom the cost of protecting it with proper cases, etc and suddenly become cheap at dropping another $1k after already dropping $5k.

But again, this computer and monitor really weren't meant for most users. They are meant for paid pro's where this gear is either part of a kit they are getting paid rental on, or will be purchased in quantities by VFX houses, Post color houses, AR and VR developers, etc.
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Old Jun 4, 2019 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Wait...what?

you can create network shares on an iPad? If not, built in SMB client support is dope
Yup, IPadOS can host SMB shares. Jump to 1:08:00 https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2019/
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Old Jun 4, 2019 | 06:23 AM
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Can't wait to see what the new Mac Pro with 4 GPUs and 28core Xeon costs.
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...imate-ballpark
Apple announced today that its new Mac Pro starts at an already pricey $6,000, but the company neglected to mention how much the top-of-the-line model will cost. So we shopped around for equivalent parts to the top-end spec that Apple’s promising. As it turns out: $33,720.88 is likely the bare minimum — and that’s before factoring in the four GPUs, which could easily jack that price up to around $45,000.

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Old Jun 4, 2019 | 09:28 AM
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Yeah...thats not how it works...
Then how does it work?
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Old Jun 4, 2019 | 10:02 AM
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Interesting. I didn’t watch the keynote but yesterday Apple used an unreleased canon cinema camera to capture the 8K footage for the Mac Pro demo.

4:4:4 8K ProRes RAW

C300 Mark III?


https://www.canonrumors.com/unreleas...pture-at-wwdc/
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Then how does it work?
You realize, that while 4k is somewhat of the current standard more and more projects are being shot in higher resolutions up to 8k...

Not only that, these apps dont sit there and optimize a 4k window out of a higher res display and leave "left over" lines of resolution for the rest of the app. Just like they currently dont do it for 1080 or 2k. Especially since proxy editing is a standard. And even though these machines can possibly run without proxies, like other current machines, its not going to change the workflow anytime soon because one project does not solely live on one machine over the course of its post life.

So, no, that's not how it works. But you're the all knowing computer tech genius, right?
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
You realize, that while 4k is somewhat of the current standard more and more projects are being shot in higher resolutions up to 8k...

Not only that, these apps dont sit there and optimize a 4k window out of a higher res display and leave "left over" lines of resolution for the rest of the app. Just like they currently dont do it for 1080 or 2k. Especially since proxy editing is a standard. And even though these machines can possibly run without proxies, like other current machines, its not going to change the workflow anytime soon because one project does not solely live on one machine over the course of its post life.

So, no, that's not how it works. But you're the all knowing computer tech genius, right?
Thanks Sarlacc, very cool.
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Old Jun 4, 2019 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Interesting. I didn’t watch the keynote but yesterday Apple used an unreleased canon cinema camera to capture the 8K footage for the Mac Pro demo.

4:4:4 8K ProRes RAW

C300 Mark III?


https://www.canonrumors.com/unreleas...pture-at-wwdc/
https://www.dpreview.com/news/688064...ro-display-xdr



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Old Jun 4, 2019 | 04:26 PM
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Well, that is definitely a C-series body...with a quite a bit in the way of SDI in/outs. Funny if they release this it will completely trump their studio designed body the C700...which, in my opinion, has been a huge flop.
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Old Jun 4, 2019 | 08:37 PM
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This. https://appleinsider.com/articles/19...les-own-target


This new Mac Pro is targeted towards the very top echelon of professionals. DoD, NASA, scientists, animators developers etc.

I and I think many others were expecting an option for a lower end Mac Pro that could be optioned out to something for those professionals.

like the article said, people were expecting to have something like the $2499 four-core 2.66GHz Mac Pro from 2006.


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Old Jun 4, 2019 | 09:11 PM
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If you goto the Apple website on your iPhone or iPad you can use the AR feature to see how the Mac Pro looks on your desk.

of course people compared it to the G5/2006-2012 Mac Pro




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Weird, is that Apple saying that their Pro XDR 6K monitor can display video at 4K and have 2K leftover for Final Cut Pro UI!?

Oh look what is says underneath too

While most displays max out at around 150 pixels per inch (ppi), our Retina display has 218 ppi, providing astoundingly sharp and detailed imagery. It’s a massive creative canvas that easily fits 4K content, your tools, and much more all in one screen.
https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/

Wow
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Weird, is that Apple saying that their Pro XDR 6K monitor can display video at 4K and have 2K leftover for Final Cut Pro UI!?

Oh look what is says underneath too

https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/

Wow
I saw that before I ever posted my reply and I was waiting for it.

And I stand by my comments.

That's one app designed by apple, showing off what it can do if you choose to use it in that particular template. That isn't how most editors work, and negates 5, 6, and 8k. Most editors use a 2 or 3 screen set up where that "4k window" will actually be displayed on an entirely different monitor there by freeing up space for your timeline and tools on the main screen. And if they are one screen they will make that viewing window smaller to maximize their timeline and tool space. There is no need to view real time 4k as you edit.

And guess what...no one in the professional world uses FCP X. Apple shot themselves in the foot with the release of X. The industry swung by and large to FCP up to version 7....when X came out it took a pro app and made it a prosumer app. Even with the updates of the last few years it is still lacking certain features in an attempt to lock you in to the apple ecosystem. And while that's fine for says personal stuff. It's a complete killer in the pro world because of the need to constantly go outside the apple ecosystem of apps. So, Avid, Premiere, and now DaVinci have all become the mainstream editing suites. And their software is not set up to view footage in a template like FCP X. Perhaps they may change this in the future but not currently.

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Old Jun 5, 2019 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
I and I think many others were expecting an option for a lower end Mac Pro that could be optioned out to something for those professionals.


I mean, we could only hope. But given the way the trash can Mac Pro was priced out, yeah...

Little strange that they wouldn't want to fill in the more affordable part of that market, but that's not within my expertise to decide.
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