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Old 02-27-2011, 04:20 PM
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Apple: OS X Lion

Lots of new features coming up in Lion. It looks like it's going to be a good upgrade.

Finally, Terminal Server like remote access http://www.9to5mac.com/54102/10-7-li...ing#more-54102

Use your mac's camera to snap a pic of your signature and insert into a pdf. http://www.9to5mac.com/54071/lions-s...dfs#more-54071

Use your Apple ID to log into remote macs. http://www.9to5mac.com/54056/10-7-li...ree#more-54056

Front Row may be gone http://www.9to5mac.com/53989/front-r...ion#more-53989

Airdrop http://www.9to5mac.com/53899/mac-os-...deo#more-53899

Recovery Partition http://www.9to5mac.com/53844/os-x-10...elf#more-53844

Lion Server Included http://www.9to5mac.com/53759/apple-a...ion#more-53759

Document Versions http://www.9to5mac.com/53745/lion-ha...nts#more-53745
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yeah lots of windows features coming over. Full disk encryption, TRIM support for SSDs, full-screen apps!, previous versions without needing an external backup drive and you can now FINALLY resize a window using any of the corners instead of just the lower right corner. That was probably the most annoying thing about OS X. Seems like finally they'll have an OS that won't drive me insane with stupid UI decisions.

Also mail has a much better ui like Outlook or ipad mail app


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I LOVE the fact that they're "giving" away the server aspect of the OS.
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Considering the only "server" hardware they sell is a mac mini, they might as well give it away. If they really wanted to be cool they would support Lion Server running on VMware. I think I just saw a pig with wings.
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Originally Posted by doopstr
Considering the only "server" hardware they sell is a mac mini, they might as well give it away. If they really wanted to be cool they would support Lion Server running on VMware. I think I just saw a pig with wings.
They support virtualizing OS X Server...on Apple hardware only.
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Originally Posted by doopstr
Considering the only "server" hardware they sell is a mac mini, they might as well give it away. If they really wanted to be cool they would support Lion Server running on VMware. I think I just saw a pig with wings.
i thought the macpro could be configured as a server?
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yes

I think virtual box supports OS X virtualization. Though that might still be in beta
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
i thought the macpro could be configured as a server?
Oh yeah!
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
yes

I think virtual box supports OS X virtualization. Though that might still be in beta
I tried to get Lion going under Fusion and so far no go. I have run Snow Leopard on Virtual Box.
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Originally Posted by doopstr
I tried to get Lion going under Fusion and so far no go. I have run Snow Leopard on Virtual Box.


If Lion can be run in Virtualbox...I might compose an argument in favor of ditching our physical OS X servers. They're mainly used for Mac client management (Workgroup Manager) and whenever we need to image machines (they only handle NetBoot, the actual image is pulled from other servers). Neither of the two tasks require a great deal of horsepower.
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Yumcha should be really pleased with these new features/updates
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This person was nice enough to figure out how to get Lion running under VMWare Fusion. I followed the instructions and it worked!
http://www.obviouslogic.com:8080/solutions/lion-vmware/
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Originally Posted by doopstr
This person was nice enough to figure out how to get Lion running under VMWare Fusion. I followed the instructions and it worked!
http://www.obviouslogic.com:8080/solutions/lion-vmware/
Oooooh.
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Will that work on ESX/i?
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Don't think so. VMware only shows OS X (Server) as a supported guest under Fusion. You would be in violation of your license agreement to run OS X on non Apple hardware
http://www.vmware.com/resources/comp...%5D=-1&rorre=0
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Well then what's the point?
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That I can run Lion without blowing up my iMac.
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Where's the adventure in that?
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they are naming the next one lion? What's next tiger, then bear, oh my!
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Originally Posted by mcflyguy24
they are naming the next one lion? What's next tiger, then bear, oh my!
Tiger has already be done

They're all named after large cats.
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Actually 10.8 is called Liger

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Looks like a great deal of the new Lion features are going to require a trackpad or magic mouse. The multi-touch gesture stuff looks really cool. I like how it handles full screen apps and mission control looks cool.
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I'm looking forward to the upgrade, especially for only $30.




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Pretty sweet how Lion has "Find my Mac" if it's stolen or lost.

Although I guess i won't be as accurate as finding your iPhone or iPad w/ GPS.
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It's a bit annoying that the only way to buy it is through the app store. If I didn't have the fat pipe I'd be pissed.
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Lion is awesome, but the reversed scrolling is really taking some getting used to!!
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Originally Posted by astro
Lion is awesome, but the reversed scrolling is really taking some getting used to!!
can you undo that? Probably gonna piss off a lot of people, a little unnecessary if you ask me.

Other than that Lion is looking pretty solid, finally a version that I could use!
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Also phil schiller mentioned that the server features would be a separate download at extra cost so they aren't free.

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Originally Posted by astro
Lion is awesome, but the reversed scrolling is really taking some getting used to!!
What do you mean by reversed scrolling?

Is it like scrolling on the iPhone / iPad where when you drag downwards the page goes up?
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Last I saw there is a check box to disable it. I think it makes sense with the tackpad. With the mouse it's a little freaky for awhile.

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Originally Posted by doopstr
It's a bit annoying that the only way to buy it is through the app store. If I didn't have the fat pipe I'd be pissed.


I prefer a disc. Any ideas on how an entire office of Macs is going to update? Each computer one at a time?
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I'll be shocked if there is not some very simple documented way to burn it to a DVD or memory stick.
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Tiger has already be done

They're all named after large cats.
next one will be called lisa lampanelli. comes in a white box with black dics
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how long until this is on the demon?
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If they don't have disc image burning option then it may be a while. It will only run on a Mac authorizedc or the account that downloaded it.
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30 is a steal.
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^it's one price of $30 for all your computers.

I think Phee shouldn't steal it and actually pay for software for once....



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