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Mizouse 04-02-2011 09:01 PM

only reason why i got the apple TV is cause i like the idea behind Airplay and being able to push videos audio and pictures to it from my iPhone.

Mizouse 04-02-2011 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by stogie1020 (Post 12835592)
Besides a safari of naked women?


I want to be able to:

Send movies or music to my receiver in the other room (preferably wirelessly),

Control the selecting, playing, etc, via a html frontend so I can use a wifi handheld (Touch, phone, etc) as a remote and just assign a static IP to the page.

yea dunno about the controlling via an html webpage or something.


the atv can connect via wireless N, but choose Ethernet cause :dunno: maybe more stability and faster? :dunno:
and i can control it via the remote app on my iPhone.

Mizouse 04-02-2011 09:12 PM

you can push any video and audio format supported by iTunes to the apple TV.

so you could be on your PC and be like "ohh i want to watch/listen to this on the big screen/speakers" and just push it to the apple TV.

the airvideo thing im using is just a work around since iTunes doesnt support divx or mkv files.

stogie1020 04-02-2011 09:29 PM

Not interested in using itunes as the interface.

I don't like Apple telling me what formats I can and can't use.

I am looking for something that doesn't care what format I have, just plays it and passes it to the receiver.

Movies I have on my PC are in ISO format, so I use Daemon tools to watch them on the monitor/laptop.

#1 STUNNA 04-02-2011 09:31 PM

Windows 7 has a feature called "play to" which is DLNA's version of airplay. It does the same thing as airplay, allows you to push video or audio to a DLNA device like a receiver or TV. I just don't know about handhelds. There's the LG quantum, Samsung captivate and HTC G2 phones that have DLNA streaming capabilities. I just don't know if those devices can stream media that's stored on another DLNA device like a windows 7 laptop or NAS and stream that media to a TV. Windows 7 can but you're looking for a handheld. Maybe in a future Windows Phone 7 device or Windows 8 tablet.

#1 STUNNA 04-02-2011 09:32 PM

Well no DLNA or airplay device is going to stream ISOs. you're gonna have to convert those into an actual video format instead of a disc image before any service will stream them around the house.

CocheseUGA 04-02-2011 09:33 PM

I'm certainly no Apple whore (just an iPhone and iPod here) but I've gotten used to converting stuff to a compatible format that it doesn't bother me. I was into MKVs and the sort until 360 Extender took a dump and I couldn't get it going again. The 360 plays the Apple formats fine, though.

So it makes sense at least for me to grab an ATV at some point. While other options would be a bit more open, I know it'll work.

Well, I say that and I haven't looked at iTunes on a WHS lately.

stogie1020 04-02-2011 09:33 PM

NO, you got it mixed up... I don't want to stream TO the handheld, Iwant the handheld to be able to be on the same wireless network so it can CONTROL the source PC from anywhere in the house (mainly the living room). The content would stream from PC to receiver/TV. I am trying to avoid having HT PC if I can. I don't see myself browsing the web on the TV, so why have an entire PC there?

CocheseUGA 04-02-2011 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by stogie1020 (Post 12835664)
NO, you got it mixed up... I don't want to stream TO the handheld, Iwant the handheld to be able to be on the same wireless network so it can CONTROL the source PC from anywhere in the house (mainly the living room). The content would stream from PC to receiver/TV. I am trying to avoid having HT PC if I can. I don't see myself browsing the web on the TV, so why have an entire PC there?

It's a HTPC, but something like a Zino HD might be right up your alley.

http://www.dell.com/us/en/corp/deskt...zino-hd&s=corp

stogie1020 04-02-2011 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA (Post 12835658)
Well no DLNA or airplay device is going to stream ISOs. you're gonna have to convert those into an actual video format instead of a disc image before any service will stream them around the house.

ISO is not the real issue. Something to receive the signal at my TV/Receiver, whatever the signal is, from a media "jukebox" application that ALSO has an HTML front-end so I can use a Touch or similar as a remote on the WiFi network. I don't really care if the PC to Stereo connection is wired or WiFi. WiFi would be nice, but I can run Cat6.

#1 STUNNA 04-02-2011 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by stogie1020 (Post 12835664)
NO, you got it mixed up... I don't want to stream TO the handheld, Iwant the handheld to be able to be on the same wireless network so it can CONTROL the source PC from anywhere in the house (mainly the living room). The content would stream from PC to receiver/TV. I am trying to avoid having HT PC if I can. I don't see myself browsing the web on the TV, so why have an entire PC there?

If you were talking to me, I understood you clearly. you must've misread me. I was saying I don't know of a handheld device that does that (not that one doesn't exist). It seems that I simple app could handle this.

I'm with you, I don't want the handheld to be the middle man, I don't want the video feed to go through the handheld.

You could just RDP into your PC from your handheld and control it that way. Not the best experience but it would do what you wanted.

stogie1020 04-02-2011 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA (Post 12835684)
If you were talking to me, I understood you clearly. you must've misread me. I was saying I don't know of a handheld device that does that (not that one doesn't exist). It seems that I simple app could handle this.

I'm with you, I don't want the handheld to be the middle man, I don't want the video feed to go through the handheld.

You could just RDP into your PC from your handheld and control it that way. Not the best experience but it would do what you wanted.

Any handheld with a browser could do it. Bring up the internal IP address of the jukebox front end and viola. The handheld is just the remote control.

stogie1020 04-02-2011 11:31 PM

Here is an example of one tool. There are free ones too, and at least for Linux, some that don't care what the file type is...

My main concern is getting the data to the receiver and having a web enabled media browser.

#1 STUNNA 04-02-2011 11:38 PM

:can'tseeshit:

stogie1020 04-02-2011 11:48 PM

Sorry,

http://xbmc.org/about/

#1 STUNNA 04-02-2011 11:52 PM

yup. I had that on my iPad and I have that on my PC and Macs. If you get an Apple TV you can jailbreak it and run XBMC on there too. XBMC supports the DLNA Play to feature I was mentioning so you can do play to from WMP and send it to the XBMC device connected to your TV or receiver

stogie1020 04-02-2011 11:57 PM

So, with XBMC, I can keep all my music and movies on my PC or a networked location, use a Touch/wifi device as a remote to access the XBMC frontend on my network, and push the content to the Apple TV which will be connected to my receiver?

stogie1020 04-02-2011 11:59 PM

Is there an adapter for the appleTV for it to be wireless? Or would I need to get a wireless router and connect it?

#1 STUNNA 04-03-2011 12:03 AM

not exactly. The setup would be apple tv connected to receiver. All you media on your PC or at least accessible by your PC in Windows. Then you could RDP using app on handheld to your PC then choose file to "play to" Apple TV running XBMC, file would then begin to play automatically on XBMC.

Apple TV comes with 802.11N

#1 STUNNA 04-03-2011 12:06 AM

but if you had an apple TV running XBMC I'd just use the remote and you can set XBMC to use SMB file sharing then you can just browse for the file you want that's on your PC. No need to do all that extra stuff.

stogie1020 04-03-2011 12:07 AM

Check this out:

http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=The_Web_Interface

I believe I have a solution!

Thanks Stunna!

stogie1020 04-03-2011 12:10 AM

Wow, holy thread hijack. Sorry. :hijack:

#1 STUNNA 04-03-2011 12:14 AM

Why not just enable network sharing on your PC then have XBMC connect to your network share and browse for the files.

On the TV in the Living Room I have a Xbox 360 that I use to browse the movies on my WHS. I pick which movie I want from the list and watch it. On the TV in my bedroom I have PS3 that does the same thing. On my ipad I use an app called FileBrowser which connects to the SMB share on my WHS and I browse for the file I want and watch it. On the Macs I have XBMC setup to do the same thing. It's connected to my WHS and I can browse movies that are on my WHS and play them. It also downloads all the photoart and metadata for the movies and displays them

#1 STUNNA 04-03-2011 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by stogie1020 (Post 12836001)
Wow, holy thread hijack. Sorry. :hijack:

meh there's no relevant iPod news for a while.............................

















WAIT!




They just found a supposed case for the next gen iPod nano and it has a camera hole!:guninmouthpulltrigger:

http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/as...withcamera.jpg

http://gizmodo.com/#!5788281/leaked-...-a-camera-hole

stogie1020 04-03-2011 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA (Post 12836012)
Why not just enable network sharing on your PC then have XBMC connect to your network share and browse for the files.

On the TV in the Living Room I have a Xbox 360 that I use to browse the movies on my WHS. I pick which movie I want from the list and watch it. On the TV in my bedroom I have PS3 that does the same thing. On my ipad I use an app called FileBrowser which connects to the SMB share on my WHS and I browse for the file I want and watch it. On the Macs I have XBMC setup to do the same thing. It's connected to my WHS and I can browse movies that are on my WHS and play them. It also downloads all the photoart and metadata for the movies and displays them

I have no network hardware attached to my home theater, and :blush: am running XP Pro on the PC...

#1 STUNNA 04-03-2011 12:47 AM

Just get an Apple TV and Jailbreak it then install the XBMC app. XP pro is all you need just create a network share in windows for the folder(s) you want to share and then use the SMB option in XBMC and it will find you files easily and you can stream them. The apple TV has built in WiFi so just plug it into your TV or receiver and you're good to go.

stogie1020 04-03-2011 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA (Post 12836044)
Just get an Apple TV and Jailbreak it then install the XBMC app. XP pro is all you need just create a network share in windows for the folder(s) you want to share and then use the SMB option in XBMC and it will find you files easily and you can stream them. The apple TV has built in WiFi so just plug it into your TV or receiver and you're good to go.

:monocle:

What are you suggesting I control the Apple TV with? My Harmony One?

Mizouse 04-03-2011 03:32 AM

If you got an iPod touch you can use that. Or the included remote :shrug:

doopstr 04-03-2011 07:59 AM

I've been thinking about a WD Live Plus for a long time. They seem really cool. The only down side I see is wireless requires a compatible USB adapter. The feature I am most interested in is being able to attach an external hard drive to it.

Also, there's an app for that http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wd-tv...377667642?mt=8

Whiskers 04-03-2011 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by doopstr (Post 12836288)
I've been thinking about a WD Live Plus for a long time. They seem really cool. The only down side I see is wireless requires a compatible USB adapter. The feature I am most interested in is being able to attach an external hard drive to it.

Also, there's an app for that http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wd-tv...377667642?mt=8

I have mine plugged into my router, works great.

#1 STUNNA 04-03-2011 09:18 AM

use the remote that comes with the AppleTV?

http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/wp-cont...ple-remote.jpg

you might be able to control it with your harmony one, i believe it uses iR so it's possible.

svtmike 04-03-2011 12:30 PM

I can control my Apple TV with my Harmony 880, so the Harmony One should support it too.

stogie1020 04-03-2011 01:41 PM

Awesome, thanks!

Mizouse 04-03-2011 03:38 PM

Hmmm I forgot about that xbmc thing for the apple TV...

Might consider installing it.

It'll pretty much make the atv like a roku box right?

#1 STUNNA 04-03-2011 03:39 PM

how to jailbreak Apple TV
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-jai...s0n-rc6-guide/

how to install XBMC

http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-ins...e-tv-2g-guide/

<object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/tlUCVcy_NWc?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/tlUCVcy_NWc?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>

#1 STUNNA 04-03-2011 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by Mizouse (Post 12836974)
Hmmm I forgot about that xbmc thing for the apple TV...

Might consider installing it.

It'll pretty much make the atv like a roku box right?

Roku still doesn't have DLNA support or a way to access networked files so this makes it better.

stogie1020 04-03-2011 10:57 PM

Got Apple TV :woot:

Got it hoked up :woot:

Got it sharing my iTunes library wirelessly and accessing Youtube :woot:

Still need to install XBMC on it and get that running, but there is an actual XBMC plugin for the Apple TV! :pending woot:

#1 STUNNA 04-03-2011 11:47 PM

You stole my Apple TV! After this thread I thought about it and decided that I would get one too instead of struggling with the Xbox 360 to playback video that played fine on my other devices. I went to pick one up at BB and they had just sold the last one! bastard!

stogie1020 04-03-2011 11:48 PM

My BB had like 15 :snicker:

Mizouse 04-03-2011 11:56 PM

i picked up a refurb for 85 bux...


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