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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 03:42 PM
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Amazon: Smartphone?

Amazon Preparing to Release Smartphone



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Retailer Has Plans to Announce Phone by June, Begin Shipping by End of September

Updated April 11, 2014 5:42 p.m. ET

Amazon.com Inc. is preparing to release a smartphone in the second half of this year, according to people briefed on the company's plans, part of a broad push into hardware that would pit it against Apple Inc. and Samsung Electronics Co.

The retailer has been demonstrating versions of the handset to developers in San Francisco and its hometown Seattle in recent weeks, these people said. People briefed on the company's plans have been told that Amazon aims to announce the phone by the end of June and begin shipping phones by the end of September, ahead of the holiday shopping season.

The people said Amazon hopes to distinguish its phone in a crowded market with a screen capable of displaying seemingly three-dimensional images without special glasses, these people said. They said the phone would employ retina-tracking technology embedded in four front-facing cameras, or sensors, to make some images appear to be 3-D, similar to a hologram, the people said.

An Amazon spokesman declined to comment.

The phone would thrust Amazon into a competitive market with entrenched players that has nearly felled once high-flying device makers like BlackBerry Ltd. and Motorola. With Apple and Samsung alone commanding 49% of the worldwide smartphone market, according to market researcher IDC, there is little room for upstarts.

News of the phone comes as Amazon moves more deeply into designing and making hardware. Last week, it unveiled its Fire TV set-top box and said it will soon begin distributing a wand customers can use to scan product barcodes at home to re-order groceries and other goods without logging into their computers. It introduced new versions of its Kindle Fire tablets last year.

But Amazon approaches hardware differently than many other companies. Chief Executive Jeff Bezos has said he prefers Amazon to profit from customers buying services through Amazon hardware, rather than profit from the devices themselves.

The design and pricing of the smartphone are unclear and these people cautioned that Amazon may alter its launch plans due to performance or other concerns.

The 3-D screen technology can sense the movement of a person's eyes and whether the screen is moving closer to a user's face, according to people familiar with the matter. In response, the phone will be able to automatically zoom into images as it moves closer to a user's face and could manipulate text and images as a person moves the phone.

The technology would be ideal for gaming, an area of recent focus for Amazon including on the set-top box. The phone's software is also optimized for very visual games, designed to provide a sense of depth, according to people who have handled the handsets.

It also isn't known what operating system the phone will use or which wireless carriers Amazon is working with. The Kindle Fire tablet and the Fire TV set-top box both rely on Google Inc.'s Android mobile-operating system. But Amazon created its own app store for the Kindle devices and does not offer access to Google's Play Store.

AT&T Inc. provides service for Kindle tablets and e-readers. An AT&T spokesman declined to comment.

Amazon has told one of its suppliers it is anticipating mass production of the device later this month, with an initial order of 600,000 units, according to a person briefed on the plans. The company has lined up two display makers for the smartphone, including Japan Display Inc., the maker of displays for Apple's iPhone 5C and 5S, according to another person familiar with the details.

A Japan Display representative declined to comment.

Amazon has been inviting select app and software developers to hotels to demonstrate the handset in suites protected by security guards, two people familiar with the matter said.

Because consumers carry smartphones with them everywhere, Amazon would gain access to data like users' locations and app downloads, which could help generate new sales opportunities for e-books, video downloads and items like household goods.

A smartphone may also open up new avenues for mobile payments, a nascent market dominated today by rival eBay Inc.'s PayPal. Amazon is targeting a summer launch of a program to use Kindle Fire tablets as checkout registers at smaller brick-and-mortar merchants, people familiar with the plan told The Wall Street Journal earlier this year.

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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 03:56 PM
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Possible specs
  • 4.7-inch display with 720p HD resolution
  • a quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon processor
  • 2GB of RAM
  • six individual camera modules
  • a highly customized version of Google’s Android operating system similar to the one seen on Amazon’s various Kindle Fire tablets
  • will rely on Amazon’s own mobile app store for third-party software distribution
  • The first Amazon smartphone will also feature a novel interface with 3D effects enabled by four front-facing infrared cameras that track the position of the user’s head in relation to the device’s screen. Coupled with some additional sensors, these cameras also facilitate unique gesture-based controls used to access menus and additional information.
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Very interesting. Not likely that I'd switch from the iPhone but I'm really interested to see what they have to offer, I love Amazon.
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 04:12 PM
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Nintendo had a 3d portable a while back.....I guess this just expands on that with the 3D stuff.
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 01:28 PM
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Amazon Fire Phone

32GB = $199.99 with 2 yr agreement
64GB = $299.99 with 2 year agreement

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2.2GHz processor
2GB RAM
4.7" screen
13 megapixel rear camera w/optical image stabilization
Adreno 339 Graphics Processor
unlimited photo storage on Amazon cloud
Amazon’s “Mayday” support service free

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Firefly... new feature that can recognize products just with the phone’s camera, and then add them to your shopping cart.

Firefly with Shazam-type song identification can also listen to songs and add them to your shopping cart, or start a playlist on a music app.

Firefly can also recognize TV shows. (Demo'ed how it identified a scene in “Game of Thrones”)

Firefly also works for art, identifying pieces and then pulling up Wikipedia info.

Scroll by tilting phone

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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 01:38 PM
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The Firefly app is cool.
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 01:39 PM
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3D = dynamic perspective.

4 front facing cameras.... can measure how far away from phone face is and has a much wider field of view (120-degree field of view and infrared light)

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That's awesome.

Nice hardware specs too.
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Originally Posted by Undying Dreams
That's awesome.

Nice hardware specs too.
AMZN up 3% on Fire Phone reveal.

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Pre-orders start today.

Available starting July 25, 2014 exclusively on AT&T


32GB = $199.99 with 2 yr agreement
64GB = $299.99 with 2 year agreement

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32GB = $649 with no contract
64GB = $749 with no contract

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Ouch!



EDIT... also includes 12 months of free Amazon Prime. Nice

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No Verizon?
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product page -->
Amazon Fire Phone - 13MP Camera, 32GB - Shop Now Amazon Fire Phone - 13MP Camera, 32GB - Shop Now



Runs on Fire OS 3.5

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Size: 5.5" x 2.6" x 0.35" (139.2mm x 66.5mm x 8.9mm)

Weight: 5.64 ounces (160 grams)

Processor: 2.2GHz Quad-core Snapdragon 800 CPU, with Adreno 330 GPU and 2GB of RAM

Display: 4.7" HD LCD display, with 1280 x 720 resolution at 315 ppi, 590 cd/m2 brightness (typical), 1000:1 contrast ratio (typical)

Cameras: 13 MP rear-facing camera, multi-frame HDR, auto focus, optical image stabilization, f/2.0 5-element wide aperture lens, LED flash; 2.1 MP front-facing camera

OS: Fire OS 3.5.0

Storage: 32 GB or 64 GB

Cloud Storage: Free cloud storage for all Amazon content, and photos taken with Fire phone

Battery: Battery size: 2400mAh. Talk time: up to 22 hours; standby time: up to 285 hours. Video playback: up to 11 hours; audio playback: up to 65 hours.

Video recording: 1080p HD video recording at 30 fps (front- and rear-facing cameras)

Audio playback: Dual stereo speakers with Dolby Digital Plus audio processing

TV and Video: Supports screen mirroring and Second Screen

Content formats supported: Audio: Dolby Digital (AC-3), Dolby Digital Plus (E-AC-3), non-DRM AAC, MP3, MIDI, OGG, PCM/WAVE, AAC LC/ELD, HE-AAC (v1 & v2), AMR-NB, AMR-WB, AMR-WB+, Audible Enhanced format (AAX); Video: MPEG4, VP8, H.264/MPEG4/AVC,MPEG4 SP, H.263,AVI,HDCP2.x, PlayReady DRM; Images: JPG, GIF, PNG, BMP, GIF87a,GIF89a; Viewable docs: PDF, unprotected MOBI, PRC natively, DOC, DOCX, Kindle (AZW), KF8, TXT

Sensors: Dynamic Perspective sensor system with invisible infrared illumination, gyroscope, accelerometer, magnetometer, barometer, proximity sensor, ambient light sensor

Location: GPS, Assisted GPS, GLONASS, Wi-Fi/Cellular location, and Digital compass

Cellular: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz), Quad-band GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz), 9 bands of LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20), supports carrier aggregation

Connectivity: 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi, up to 300 Mbps with channel bonding; Bluetooth 3.0 wireless technology; NFC enabled

Headphones: Premium, tangle-free headphones with remote and mic

Rating for hearing aids: M4, T4

SIM Card: Pre-installed Nano SIM card

Ports: Micro USB 2.0; 3.5mm headphone

Warranty and Service: 1-year Limited Warranty included.

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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 02:24 PM
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Looks impressive.
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It looks good but let's be serious, Samsung and Apple are the "must have" devices right now and I'm not sure that this is going to do well.
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It looks good but let's be serious, Samsung and Apple are the "must have" devices right now and I'm not sure that this is going to do well.
Before I got my son a Kindle Fire I would have agreed, but its a really good tablet.
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Agreed, TLin.

But if I was just going into the smartphone market, this would be a very strong contender.

If you have more than one Apple product, it doesn't make sense to switch.
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Amazon is a serious tech company. I've been using EC2 more and more. It's an impressive platform. They have a ton of smart people working for them now. They are what IBM and HP were 40 years ago.
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 04:53 PM
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Fire, the phone to order even more product from amazon.com
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Before I got my son a Kindle Fire I would have agreed, but its a really good tablet.
Ah, so that's your new strategy to tell the wife? "The boy needs a toy"
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I could have told you without even checking that the hardware specs would be impressive. That it would be an attractive device.

I can also tell you that I won't be interested in it because of its gimped, Amazon-centric experience. Great if you use Amazon for everything, but falters if you don't.
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Costco
I could have told you without even checking that the hardware specs would be impressive. That it would be an attractive device.

I can also tell you that I won't be interested in it because of its gimped, Amazon-centric experience. Great if you use Amazon for everything, but falters if you don't.
Agree.

The 3D thing seems like an interesting gimmick...but will it really deliver any sort of full time user experience.
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I did just see a commercial for the Mayday feature...which is supposed to be 24/7/365

That is a pretty genius idea, especially for the older crowd.

Now...will you be face chatting with someone outsourced after hours?
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I did just see a commercial for the Mayday feature...which is supposed to be 24/7/365

That is a pretty genius idea, especially for the older crowd.

Now...will you be face chatting with someone outsourced after hours?
We tried it for the fire tablet, girl seemed local and nice enough. Not quite the commercial nice, but like someone at home with an Amazon banner above them. Im going to try to get that support gig when Im back in the US.
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We tried it for the fire tablet, girl seemed local and nice enough. Not quite the commercial nice, but like someone at home with an Amazon banner above them. Im going to try to get that support gig when Im back in the US.
Man...I feel bad for semi-legal aged girl that makes that call...
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Man...I feel bad for semi-legal aged girl that makes that call...
Lol, Im very professional in real life.....
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Not for the hardcore big screened power users but this could snag some iPhone sales from the fairweather user, older person. Finds its niche like the Kindle Fire did.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Agree.

The 3D thing seems like an interesting gimmick...but will it really deliver any sort of full time user experience.
People are going to buy it, then sue because the 3D effect makes them dizzy or passout.
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I think that, maps aside, amazon is going to have to drive eed for the 3d by creatingapps that incorporate it.
Something like a monthly calendar that brings the current day to the forefront but lets you see the whole month in the background.

Games will not be enough to drive demand for the 3d feature IMO.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I did just see a commercial for the Mayday feature...which is supposed to be 24/7/365

That is a pretty genius idea, especially for the older crowd.

Now...will you be face chatting with someone outsourced after hours?
That has got to be one of the most difficult jobs I could imagine. Putting up with crap all day and having to look cheery. I bet they get mooned or cock shocked at least once a day.
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Amazon app store = fail
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That has got to be one of the most difficult jobs I could imagine. Putting up with crap all day and having to look cheery. I bet they get mooned or cock shocked at least once a day.
You can see them, they can't see you.

Actually its a lot better then other remote jobs since you need to sign in with your Amazon account to get the support. That makes the callers not want to piss off them.
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Amazon app store = fail
Its sort of the same as the play store.
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That has got to be one of the most difficult jobs I could imagine. Putting up with crap all day and having to look cheery.
Have you ever been to Chick-Fil-A?
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Its sort of the same as the play store.
That's like saying a McDonald's patty is the same as a dry aged sirloin, they're both beef.
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Now just 99 cents!
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Now just 99 cents!
99 cent with 2 year contract. I'd only buy this if it was 99 cents without a contract.
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Unlocked Fire Phone now $200 at Amazon.
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Guess amazon can't rule the world after all.
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Unlocked Fire Phone now $200 at Amazon.
With a year old prime....
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