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As a LAD fan, I'm pretty excited about Torre but I'll taper my enthusiasm until 1) Schmidt ("Shit") and Wolf are given the thumbs up; 2) the franchise picks up a legitimate clean-up hitter who can actually clean-up (A-Rod would be great but the Dodgers should look long and hard at A-Jones ... who may be a better fit with the OF situation). Maybe the Dodgers can even trade their bevy of prospects/young un's for ... Johan.
And I think Scott Proctor just woke up in a cold sweat.
And I think Scott Proctor just woke up in a cold sweat.
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Nothing about this is confirmed.
And Andruw Jones is damn near washed up IMO. Still got a couple decent years in him, but you don't want to saddle yourself into paying him 4 years from now...what he gives you in the present just isn't good enough to take that burden.
I don't think LA will take Jones. You think they want to deal with Scott Boras again after the whole J.D. Drew disaster?
And if Torre does end up being manager, the first thing he needs to do is take control of the clubhouse.
To do that, I would kick fuck face Jeff Kent onto the street...he's nothing but a cancer. Then repeatedly bitch slap Matt Kemp until he grows up and respects the veterans on the team.
I would also sign a team player and well liked guy like Torii Hunter instead of someone like Jones...
And if Torre does end up being manager, the first thing he needs to do is take control of the clubhouse.
To do that, I would kick fuck face Jeff Kent onto the street...he's nothing but a cancer. Then repeatedly bitch slap Matt Kemp until he grows up and respects the veterans on the team.
I would also sign a team player and well liked guy like Torii Hunter instead of someone like Jones...
Perhaps the LAD can live with their current OFers and cross their fingers that Kemp/Ethier/Pierre can pan out. Kemp looked great down the stretch so perhaps he's the real deal.
Andruw Jones is a strange case ... he's never resembled a disciplined hitter but in recent years, he finally looked a little bit more comfortable at the plate (don't friggin' overswing at every single pitch down and away ... and then trot back to the dugout with the retard-smirk on his face).
But if the LAD are considering this potential POS, they have to be seriously concerned that the dude regressed, almost ridiculously, in his walk year. One one hand, he provides GG defense and (before this year) could be penciled in for 30-35 home runs, 110-120 RBI's. On the other hand, I believe Jones is driven purely by money and could easily dump the rest of his career with a 9-figure payday. Jones made $14mm this year and Bor-ass thinks he deserves a 7-8 year deal worth $20mm per as a "fair market value." Stupid.
I guess the only other options out there are Hunter or Rowand (who both stepped up with free agency looming) but with the OF free agent crop looking sparse, both would probably command big contracts too.
Andruw Jones is a strange case ... he's never resembled a disciplined hitter but in recent years, he finally looked a little bit more comfortable at the plate (don't friggin' overswing at every single pitch down and away ... and then trot back to the dugout with the retard-smirk on his face).
But if the LAD are considering this potential POS, they have to be seriously concerned that the dude regressed, almost ridiculously, in his walk year. One one hand, he provides GG defense and (before this year) could be penciled in for 30-35 home runs, 110-120 RBI's. On the other hand, I believe Jones is driven purely by money and could easily dump the rest of his career with a 9-figure payday. Jones made $14mm this year and Bor-ass thinks he deserves a 7-8 year deal worth $20mm per as a "fair market value." Stupid.
I guess the only other options out there are Hunter or Rowand (who both stepped up with free agency looming) but with the OF free agent crop looking sparse, both would probably command big contracts too.
I agree Jones is not a worth the money he is asking for. I like kemp but we need a big bat.
I believe kemp will put up good numbers but what about third base. A-rod will be huge but for the money. But you got to also think dodger stadium will sell out every night we the additions.
I believe kemp will put up good numbers but what about third base. A-rod will be huge but for the money. But you got to also think dodger stadium will sell out every night we the additions.
Originally Posted by TL310
I agree Jones is not a worth the money he is asking for. I like kemp but we need a big bat.
I believe kemp will put up good numbers but what about third base. A-rod will be huge but for the money. But you got to also think dodger stadium will sell out every night we the additions.
I believe kemp will put up good numbers but what about third base. A-rod will be huge but for the money. But you got to also think dodger stadium will sell out every night we the additions.
Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
There was some crazy stat about how the number of Arod jerseys sold was enough to pay his salary for the Yankees.
Grady Little resigns as Dodgers manager.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns
LOS ANGELES – Grady Little has resigned as manager of the Los Angeles Dodgers, according to sources, ending a turbulent month between him and the club, and broadening the possibility that the Dodgers will hire Joe Torre as his replacement.
A season-ending disagreement between Little and general manager Ned Colletti resulted in three weeks of uneasy silence between the two, that distance spurring the club's recent attempts to replace Little last week with Joe Girardi and this week with Torre, according to baseball sources.
The Dodgers believed they had reached an agreement with Girardi at the end of last week, with the announcement to be made at the conclusion of the World Series. Instead, the New York Yankees matched the Dodgers' offer of $7.5 million over three seasons, and Girardi accepted.
Colletti then shifted his emphasis to Torre, who on Oct. 18 declined a one-year, incentive-heavy offer to manage a 13th season for the Yankees, calling it, "insulting." Torre, who took the Yankees to 12 consecutive postseasons and won four World Series titles, is expected to command significantly more in compensation than Girardi, whose one season in Florida, while successful, ended in conflict with owner Jeffrey Loria and his dismissal.
Negotiations between the Dodgers and Torre went into Tuesday evening, according to sources. There were no immediate plans for the sides to meet in person, either in Los Angeles or near Torre's home in Harrison, N.Y.
The Dodgers have been portrayed as eager to cast aside Little in the wake of their second-half collapse, and as the attractive options of Girardi and Torre became available. In fact, Colletti expected Little to return for a third season until recently, according to sources, when he came to believe Little was having reservations about returning.
According to a source, Colletti met with Little and his coaching staff in the manager's office on Sept. 30, shortly after the Dodgers ended their season with an 11-2 loss to the San Francisco Giants. The loss left the Dodgers in fourth place, eight games behind the Arizona Diamondbacks. They'd been in first place on July 26. Two weeks later, they were in fourth place, and a month later the clubhouse had degenerated into daily bickering and finger-pointing, with high-profile veterans and young players debating the other's role in the collapse.
In that setting, Colletti opened the meeting by blaming himself for personnel decisions that might have left the team thin in the starting rotation and everyday lineup, then put equal responsibility for the 82-80 record on Little and his staff. Little, according to the source, "didn't take it well."
Little defended himself and his staff, saying they'd worked harder and gotten more out of the team in 2007 than they had in 2006, when the Dodgers won the National League wild card, ultimately losing in a division series to the New York Mets.
"It went downhill from there," the source said.
When the meeting was over, Little left with the impression Colletti would rather he not return, but would have him back because he was under contract for 2008, the option for which was exercised in March. Colletti believed Little would take two weeks to consider his future with the Dodgers. By the end of three weeks, when he hadn't heard from Little, Colletti began the process of identifying a potential replacement, turning first to Girardi, whom he knew when both were employed by the Chicago Cubs.
By then, however, Little had decided he was of the mind and heart to manage the Dodgers again in 2008. He called Colletti, they talked through the pointed parts of the meeting, and told him so.
Colletti, by then, had what he believed to be an agreement with Girardi's agent, and couldn't be sure of Little's enthusiasm for the job. When he was notified of Girardi's decision, therefore, Colletti engaged Torre in conversations, still unsure if he was in a full-scale manager search or simply hedging against Little's hesitation.
A friend of Little's said Little was eager to continue as manager of the Dodgers and that his relationship with Colletti was not irreparably damaged.
Little did not return messages left on his cell phone or at his Pinehurst, N.C. home. Colletti declined to comment.
A season-ending disagreement between Little and general manager Ned Colletti resulted in three weeks of uneasy silence between the two, that distance spurring the club's recent attempts to replace Little last week with Joe Girardi and this week with Torre, according to baseball sources.
The Dodgers believed they had reached an agreement with Girardi at the end of last week, with the announcement to be made at the conclusion of the World Series. Instead, the New York Yankees matched the Dodgers' offer of $7.5 million over three seasons, and Girardi accepted.
Colletti then shifted his emphasis to Torre, who on Oct. 18 declined a one-year, incentive-heavy offer to manage a 13th season for the Yankees, calling it, "insulting." Torre, who took the Yankees to 12 consecutive postseasons and won four World Series titles, is expected to command significantly more in compensation than Girardi, whose one season in Florida, while successful, ended in conflict with owner Jeffrey Loria and his dismissal.
Negotiations between the Dodgers and Torre went into Tuesday evening, according to sources. There were no immediate plans for the sides to meet in person, either in Los Angeles or near Torre's home in Harrison, N.Y.
The Dodgers have been portrayed as eager to cast aside Little in the wake of their second-half collapse, and as the attractive options of Girardi and Torre became available. In fact, Colletti expected Little to return for a third season until recently, according to sources, when he came to believe Little was having reservations about returning.
According to a source, Colletti met with Little and his coaching staff in the manager's office on Sept. 30, shortly after the Dodgers ended their season with an 11-2 loss to the San Francisco Giants. The loss left the Dodgers in fourth place, eight games behind the Arizona Diamondbacks. They'd been in first place on July 26. Two weeks later, they were in fourth place, and a month later the clubhouse had degenerated into daily bickering and finger-pointing, with high-profile veterans and young players debating the other's role in the collapse.
In that setting, Colletti opened the meeting by blaming himself for personnel decisions that might have left the team thin in the starting rotation and everyday lineup, then put equal responsibility for the 82-80 record on Little and his staff. Little, according to the source, "didn't take it well."
Little defended himself and his staff, saying they'd worked harder and gotten more out of the team in 2007 than they had in 2006, when the Dodgers won the National League wild card, ultimately losing in a division series to the New York Mets.
"It went downhill from there," the source said.
When the meeting was over, Little left with the impression Colletti would rather he not return, but would have him back because he was under contract for 2008, the option for which was exercised in March. Colletti believed Little would take two weeks to consider his future with the Dodgers. By the end of three weeks, when he hadn't heard from Little, Colletti began the process of identifying a potential replacement, turning first to Girardi, whom he knew when both were employed by the Chicago Cubs.
By then, however, Little had decided he was of the mind and heart to manage the Dodgers again in 2008. He called Colletti, they talked through the pointed parts of the meeting, and told him so.
Colletti, by then, had what he believed to be an agreement with Girardi's agent, and couldn't be sure of Little's enthusiasm for the job. When he was notified of Girardi's decision, therefore, Colletti engaged Torre in conversations, still unsure if he was in a full-scale manager search or simply hedging against Little's hesitation.
A friend of Little's said Little was eager to continue as manager of the Dodgers and that his relationship with Colletti was not irreparably damaged.
Little did not return messages left on his cell phone or at his Pinehurst, N.C. home. Colletti declined to comment.
Its Official, Torre is new Dodger manager.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns
Joe Torre was hired Thursday to manage the Los Angeles Dodgers, taking the job two weeks after walking away from the New York Yankees.
The winningest manager in postseason history, Torre moved from one storied franchise to another and got a three-year contract. The Dodgers finished fourth in the NL West this season and have only one playoff victory since winning the 1988 World Series under Tom Lasorda.
"I'm so happy for him. I think his record speaks for itself," Lasorda said. "I think what he accomplished with the Yankees, he should have been able to control his destiny. We're happy that he's here -- very happy."
The 67-year-old Torre will be introduced at a news conference Monday at Dodger Stadium.
Torre becomes the Dodgers' eighth manager since they moved west from his hometown of Brooklyn, where he rooted for the rival New York Giants.
"As a kid growing up, you didn't like them," Torre said on WFAN radio in New York less than an hour before the hiring was announced. "As a player, to me the Dodgers were the Yankees of the National League because ... you either loved them or you hated them."
Now, Torre joins the Dodgers for their 50th anniversary season in Los Angeles.
Torre guided the Yankees to four World Series championships from 1996-2000, and they made the playoffs in all 12 years he managed them. After New York was beaten in the first round by Cleveland last month, the Yankees offered him a one-year contract with a paycut.
Calling the performance incentives in the proposal "an insult," Torre turned it down. Torre was hired by the Dodgers on the same day the Yankees formally introduced Joe Girardi as their manager.
Torre ranks eighth on baseball's career list with 2,067 victories. He also managed the New York Mets, St. Louis and Atlanta but won only one division title in the NL, in 1982 with the Braves.
"Few managers in the history of the game have accomplished what Joe has delivered," Dodgers general manager Ned Colletti said. "Throughout his career he has demonstrated the ability to turn a vision for success into results on the field and we welcome his passion and leadership. We have tremendous fans and they deserve no less."
Torre passed former Dodgers managers Leo Durocher (2,009) and Walter Alston (2,040) last season on the career wins list. He has 76 postseason victories.
Since Lasorda left during the 1996 season after suffering a heart attack, the Dodgers are 1-9 in three playoff appearances.
Torre completed a $19.2 million, three-year contract with the Yankees this season. He made $7.5 million this year -- the highest salary among major league managers -- and the Yankees offered $5 million for next year with an additional $3 million in performance bonuses.
"Joe Torre is one of the most respected men in the game of baseball," Dodgers owner Frank McCourt said. "As a player, a broadcaster, a manager and in his life off the field, Joe is a winner through and through."
The winningest manager in postseason history, Torre moved from one storied franchise to another and got a three-year contract. The Dodgers finished fourth in the NL West this season and have only one playoff victory since winning the 1988 World Series under Tom Lasorda.
"I'm so happy for him. I think his record speaks for itself," Lasorda said. "I think what he accomplished with the Yankees, he should have been able to control his destiny. We're happy that he's here -- very happy."
The 67-year-old Torre will be introduced at a news conference Monday at Dodger Stadium.
Torre becomes the Dodgers' eighth manager since they moved west from his hometown of Brooklyn, where he rooted for the rival New York Giants.
"As a kid growing up, you didn't like them," Torre said on WFAN radio in New York less than an hour before the hiring was announced. "As a player, to me the Dodgers were the Yankees of the National League because ... you either loved them or you hated them."
Now, Torre joins the Dodgers for their 50th anniversary season in Los Angeles.
Torre guided the Yankees to four World Series championships from 1996-2000, and they made the playoffs in all 12 years he managed them. After New York was beaten in the first round by Cleveland last month, the Yankees offered him a one-year contract with a paycut.
Calling the performance incentives in the proposal "an insult," Torre turned it down. Torre was hired by the Dodgers on the same day the Yankees formally introduced Joe Girardi as their manager.
Torre ranks eighth on baseball's career list with 2,067 victories. He also managed the New York Mets, St. Louis and Atlanta but won only one division title in the NL, in 1982 with the Braves.
"Few managers in the history of the game have accomplished what Joe has delivered," Dodgers general manager Ned Colletti said. "Throughout his career he has demonstrated the ability to turn a vision for success into results on the field and we welcome his passion and leadership. We have tremendous fans and they deserve no less."
Torre passed former Dodgers managers Leo Durocher (2,009) and Walter Alston (2,040) last season on the career wins list. He has 76 postseason victories.
Since Lasorda left during the 1996 season after suffering a heart attack, the Dodgers are 1-9 in three playoff appearances.
Torre completed a $19.2 million, three-year contract with the Yankees this season. He made $7.5 million this year -- the highest salary among major league managers -- and the Yankees offered $5 million for next year with an additional $3 million in performance bonuses.
"Joe Torre is one of the most respected men in the game of baseball," Dodgers owner Frank McCourt said. "As a player, a broadcaster, a manager and in his life off the field, Joe is a winner through and through."
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